Man that doesn't look good

[crossvilledore]

That's an easy answer. Successful programs get quality close to home recruits for cheap. That doesn't happen at nearly a high enough rate at Tenn while it happens routinely at all other sec schools.


66 can post the article that has unnamed coaches quotes stating these issues for your proof

So the 10 TN players (6 do not play much) on Vandy's roster are supposed to pay 40K a year while they could get a free ride with lottery money at UT. Good luck with that. It does not hurt the Mississippi schools as they have both been very successful (except State this season) with less talent to chose from. If UT wants to beat Vandy for top players, they should win more!! Blame your coaches (especially Raleigh) not Tim Corbin. What is Corbin supposed to do let every Midstate recruit go to UT? As I pointed out before He's also getting top players from under UK, UF, and UGA noses. Along with his background and inroads in the Northeast and midwest. It seems as if it's OK for UT to recruit nationally but if Vandy does it it's a crime.

 

[crossvilledore]

You really read into things. The claim has been the rule, legal all around, benefits Vandy; not that they're cheating. I think his claim is overblown myself, but I don't see it as being disparaging or insulting. Now you're starting to whine.

Ha has stated that basically these kids are only getting into school because of their athletic talent (heaven forbid that ever happening) and aren't really smart enough to get into Vandy. A quick search finds that Vandy had all these on the academic honor roll last season.

Vince Conde
Will Cooper
Tyler Ferguson
Carson Fulmer
Brian Miller
Jared Miller
Philip Pfeifer
Adam Ravenelle
Steven Rice
Luke Stephenson
Dansby Swanson
Rhett Wiseman

You are correct maybe I did read too much into it but he continues to pound the table without proof.

 

[StarRaider]

What happened to the last two sentences from a year ago? 😄

Its a "ohohoh i need to post on a rival board" troll thing.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Ha has stated that basically these kids are only getting into school because of their athletic talent (heaven forbid that ever happening) and aren't really smart enough to get into Vandy. A quick search finds that Vandy had all these on the academic honor roll last season.

Vince Conde
Will Cooper
Tyler Ferguson
Carson Fulmer
Brian Miller
Jared Miller
Philip Pfeifer
Adam Ravenelle
Steven Rice
Luke Stephenson
Dansby Swanson
Rhett Wiseman

You are correct maybe I did read too much into it but he continues to pound the table without proof.

In the past, it seems a lot of their OOS kids, especially NE kids, have come from private/prep schools. I have little doubt that they're not strong academically. I also have little doubt that all universities have another level of requirements for athletes. Vandy is regularly competing for Omaha, while we're trying to crawl to Hoover. Corbin has established recruiting in roads in TN for 10+ years, we've had 3 coaches in that same span. Vandy and Corbin are represented on any given night on MLB fields, the few guys we have in the league are the product of a guy who's almost 10 years removed. That's why kids are choosing Vandy.

 

[vol66]

In the past, it seems a lot of their OOS kids, especially NE kids, have come from private/prep schools. I have little doubt that they're not strong academically. I also have little doubt that all universities have another level of requirements for athletes. Vandy is regularly competing for Omaha, while we're trying to crawl to Hoover. Corbin has established recruiting in roads in TN for 10+ years, we've had 3 coaches in that same span. Vandy and Corbin are represented on any given night on MLB fields, the few guys we have in the league are the product of a guy who's almost 10 years removed. That's why kids are choosing Vandy.

THIS.

And the train keeps on pushing down the tracks. Last I checked (couple weeks ago), of the 16 college players projected to go in the first round in a mock draft, 3 are from Vandy, two of them weekend starters. That's pretty incredible.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

THIS.

And the train keeps on pushing down the tracks. Last I checked (couple weeks ago), of the 16 college players projected to go in the first round in a mock draft, 3 are from Vandy, two of them weekend starters. That's pretty incredible.

Whether Vandy developed them or not, Gray, Minor and Price have likely done wonders for their recruiting of pitchers. We obviously need stability to establish the recruiting ties but we can't keep putting a subpar product out there and expecting them to still come. Tough call on the coaching front moving forward.

 

[vol66]

Whether Vandy developed them or not, Gray, Minor and Price have likely done wonders for their recruiting of pitchers. We obviously need stability to establish the recruiting ties but we can't keep putting a subpar product out there and expecting them to still come. Tough call on the coaching front moving forward.

I agree to an extent, but when I look around at the Eastern side, and compare all the teams to Vandy during Serrano's time only UF (7-5) and SC (6-5) have winning records, Holbrook is 4-4 in his 3 years...

Mizzou has never beaten Vandy, in 9 tries, UGA is 0-6 since Strickland took over, UK is 3-9 and hasn't won a series and we are 4-8 in the regular season, 4-9 if you count the tourney last year and we have won a series.

I guess because they are an in-state school and they're good everyone feels like that is the measuring stick but as you point out Corbin has been there 13 years, sustained success over that time and reached the pinnacle just a year ago. Good luck finding a guy that can come in and start beating the pants off Corbin. How do you get kids from Georgia to come here instead of staying home when you get swept by them....that I agree with.

 

[Hens67]

updated the op

 

[Mike Rapp]

I've said this before and I will say it again. There was a window where UT needed both an AD and a baseball coach, and Louisville was slogging it out in a crappy C-USA, and had been passed over by the SEC and ACC twice. Had Tennessee hired Tom Jurich and Dan McDonnell, they'd be exactly where Louisville is today, and Vandy would be exactly where they are.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I've said this before and I will say it again. There was a window where UT needed both an AD and a baseball coach, and Louisville was slogging it out in a crappy C-USA, and had been passed over by the SEC and ACC twice. Had Tennessee hired Tom Jurich and Dan McDonnell, they'd be exactly where Louisville is today, and Vandy would be exactly where they are.

X100000

It likely wouldn't happen at this point because UofL is established and running a baseball heavy league, but I'd call and make McDonnell the highest paid coach in the country. Make UofL work to keep him. If CDM were in a HS baseball, blue-blood state, it would be scary how good of a program he'd put on the field. He's the best coach in the country IMO, although he manages to lose to my WKU Hilltoppers about every time they come to Bowling Green. I'll give him a pass for that.

 

[Mike Rapp]

X100000

It likely wouldn't happen at this point because UofL is established and running a baseball heavy league, but I'd call and make McDonnell the highest paid coach in the country. Make UofL work to keep him. If CDM were in a HS baseball, blue-blood state, it would be scary how good of a program he'd put on the field. He's the best coach in the country IMO, although he manages to lose to my WKU Hilltoppers about every time they come to Bowling Green. I'll give him a pass for that.

McDonnell and Corbin are near mirror images of each other, they recruit to the same philosophy and go head to head for many of the same kids. The two schools could not be more opposite in terms of their respective missions and cultures, and yet both baseball programs turn out the same quality of teams, players and records every year.

And, the two coaches and programs openly praise each other and respect each other, and hope for the other to be successful.

Dan doesn't cry and complain about the advantages Vandy has over Louisville. He just recruits to his advantages and coaches the kids up. And Kentucky has less talent than Tennessee does.

 

[iluvsmesumdooley]

Serrano is not the answer. You can spin this all you want - rebuilding a baseball team does not take as long as rebuilding a football team. Can't compare the two. Time for Dave to crap or get off the pot.

 

[OldTimer]

Serrano is not the answer. You can spin this all you want - rebuilding a baseball team does not take as long as rebuilding a football team. Can't compare the two. Time for Dave to crap or get off the pot.

well, so far we've been rebuilding the football team since 2008..........

 

[StallingsBaldSpot]

As a private school, Vanderbilt can award "need-based" scholarships to students that qualify under a certain set of financial and social circumstances. These scholarships are on top of the 11.7 athletic scholarships that the NCAA allows.

What this breeds is a structure where nearly every player on the roster is on a full ride to a quite prestigious academic institution.

How is it legal? Well, that's complicated. But it is and the NCAA has ruled on it several times. Other private schools like Notre Dame and Rice do it as well. But Vandy is the only one that has capitalized on it this well. It has a lot to do with their coach.

Public schools don't have institutional "need-based" scholarships. Many of our in-state players have the lottery scholarship and they can apply for others, but nothing like the setup a private school can have.

It's not complicated. It's rather simple. It is legal because the need based aid is available to EVERY student...not just student-athletes.

BruinVol is the saltiest of all the posters here thinking it's wrong to see to it VU students take out as little debt as possible. And I cannot stress this enough...Opportunity Vanderbilt was NOT implemented to aid Corbin and the baseball team. If you truly think that, well then you're basically retarded and lack all basic skills of logic.

Also, yall mad?

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

It's not complicated. It's rather simple. It is legal because the need based aid is available to EVERY student...not just student-athletes.

BruinVol is the saltiest of all the posters here thinking it's wrong to see to it VU students take out as little debt as possible. And I cannot stress this enough...Opportunity Vanderbilt was NOT implemented to aid Corbin and the baseball team. If you truly think that, well then you're basically retarded and lack all basic skills of logic.

Also, yall mad?

Congrats on your first male athletic championship in 160 years of existence

 

[Hens67]

2012 Tennessee 24–31 8–22 6th (East)
2013 Tennessee 22–30 8–20 6th (East)
2014 Tennessee 31–23 12–18 5th (East)
2015 Tennessee 24–26 11–18 6th (East)
2016 Tennessee 18–14 3–9 (East)
Tennessee: 119–124 42–87

borrowed from Daves wiki