Manning greatest QB ever?

Who is the greatest QB ever?

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#52
#52
Tarkington also held the record for most rushing yards for a QB too and took some pretty average Viking teams to the Super Bowl.
 
#55
#55
oklavol said:
Tarkington also held the record for most rushing yards for a QB too and took some pretty average Viking teams to the Super Bowl.
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Average? Look at the number of Hall of Famers on those teams. With a real QB, they probably win at least one championship.
 
#57
#57
Actually I was a teenage power lifter/bodybuilder. The show was actually about my cousin who was like the youngest bodybuilder on earth!

Side note: none other than Kevin Sullivan was on there with us! We were at a competetion which he won by the way.
 
#58
#58
crimedawg12 said:
Actually I was a teenage power lifter/bodybuilder. The show was actually about my cousin who was like the youngest bodybuilder on earth!

Side note: none other than Kevin Sullivan was on there with us! We were at a competetion which he won by the way.
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I went to high school with Sullivan's daughter. It was kind of funny when he'd come to pick her up or something.

Never could get up the nerve to put him in the camel clutch or figure four. Perhaps coming off the top locker or anothe clandestine operation, but never mano e mano.
 
#61
#61
hatvol96 said:
Average? Look at the number of Hall of Famers on those teams. With a real QB, they probably win at least one championship.
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Yeah, Hall of Famers, like Tarkington!

Most of the super bowl Tarkington spent scrambling for his life. Most QB's would have been sacked a long time ago.
 
#62
#62
oklavol said:
Yeah, Hall of Famers, like Tarkington!

Most of the super bowl Tarkington spent scrambling for his life. Most QB's would have been sacked a long time ago.
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and Ron Yary, Paul Krause, Jim Marshall, Alan Page... Tarkenton was overrated garbage. Joe Kapp led the same team to the Super Bowl. How great was he?
 
#65
#65
vader said:
The one that Polyahowthehelldoyouspellhisname (DB for the Steelers) caught and got jobbed by the officials would have sealed that game. You cannot be saying that Peyton had a good game against the Steelers. :blink:
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He had a 90% qb rating 290 passing yards. If Brady had a game like that they would win by 20

Oh yeah and a td pass
 
#66
#66
hatvol96 said:
Yes, and it was sickening to watch. A QB running around in circles, then throwing an interception. Riveting stuff.
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You said before you were 35. That means you were born in 1970 or 71.

Tarkington played for the Vikings from 61-66 & 72-78.

You formed some strong opinions at 5 to 7 years of age.
 
#67
#67
oklavol said:
You said before you were 35. That means you were born in 1970 or 71.

Tarkington played for the Vikings from 61-66 & 72-78.

You formed some strong opinions at 5 to 7 years of age.
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You also said you give to UT athletics in very large numbers, and have more money than you'll ever spend in a lifetime. I took the LSAT and did very well, but opted for an MBA. Law School would have put you at 24-25 graduating. Becoming that good and completely financially independent even as a young lawyer is not an everyday norm.
 
#68
#68
finevol said:
Brad Johnson
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any qb can win one super bowl. brady's done it multiple times, early in his career.

Liper said:
If Manning was the reason they weren't winning, I might agree with that. But I content it's a Colts problem, not a QB problem.

Regardless, was Elway great before he won his 2 SBs? Since he won those his last 2 years in the league, under that logic he didn't become great until they won. I just don't see that distinction; either he was great or he wasn't.

Steve Young was great, but didn't win until the end of his career...after Deion and some of the guys came over. But I don't think he was any different after than before.
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elway and young were good qb's, but they didn't achieve great status until winning the super bowl. either way neither of them belong on this list. Johnny U or Montana right now, take your pick. manning can get it, he needs two super bowls though. brady has to prove he can sustain his greatness.
 
#69
#69
volfanbill said:
any qb can win one super bowl. brady's done it multiple times, early in his career.



elway and young were good qb's, but they didn't achieve great status until winning the super bowl. either way neither of them belong on this list. Johnny U or Montana right now, take your pick. manning can get it, he needs two super bowls though. brady has to prove he can sustain his greatness.
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I think Brady is the 2nd best QB in the NFL
 
#70
#70
Lets think about something here. Johny U and Peyton Manning. Put Manning back in that day and put Johny U in present day. Manning would eat up anything back then and I'm noy sure Johny U would suceed.

It's like comparing an all great 1930 NFL team to present day times. I'm going as far to say there are High School teams out there that could crush some of the best teams of all time from the oldern times. There is no comparsion at all. Those old school teams had Olinemen that are 6'0 200 pounds.

Anyway with that comparing Johny U to Manning is not even plausable in my mind. They played in different times, and I'm pretty sure Manning would Quarterback circles around Johny U, or anyone before the 70's.
 
#71
#71
Big Vol Nasty said:
Lets think about something here. Johny U and Peyton Manning. Put Manning back in that day and put Johny U in present day. Manning would eat up anything back then and I'm noy sure Johny U would suceed.

It's like comparing an all great 1930 NFL team to present day times. I'm going as far to say there are High School teams out there that could crush some of the best teams of all time from the oldern times. There is no comparsion at all. Those old school teams had Olinemen that are 6'0 200 pounds.

Anyway with that comparing Johny U to Manning is not even plausable in my mind. They played in different times, and I'm pretty sure Manning would Quarterback circles around Johny U, or anyone before the 70's.
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Yes but how wouls Manning look in a leather helmet.....
 
#75
#75
GVF said:
:bump3:

You also said you give to UT athletics in very large numbers, and have more money than you'll ever spend in a lifetime. I took the LSAT and did very well, but opted for an MBA. Law School would have put you at 24-25 graduating. Becoming that good and completely financially independent even as a young lawyer is not an everyday norm.
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It's not hard at all if you're very good at what you do.
 
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