Marvel's Black Panther

[Ulysees E. McGill]

For its genre, probably. Dark Knight is the only superhero movie I would say is unequivocally better.

Wow..

 

[n_huffhines]

Wow..

I'm not saying it's my favorite. I actually liked Deadpool and Logan, more. I would say I liked Guardians more. Definitely Dark Knight...BP might not even be in my personal top 5.

What I'm saying is that none of those movies have better overall production quality, except for Dark Knight (which could have won best picture, IMO).

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

The best black superheroes are still Blankman and Hancock.

 

[n_huffhines]

The best black superheroes are still Blankman and Hancock.

 

[SamRebel35]

I'm not saying it's my favorite. I actually liked Deadpool and Logan, more. I would say I liked Guardians more. Definitely Dark Knight...BP might not even be in my personal top 5.

What I'm saying is that none of those movies have better overall production quality, except for Dark Knight (which could have won best picture, IMO).

I'll agree with the production quality. There was some cheesy cgi, but there aren't many action packed movies these days that don't have some lame cgi in spots.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I'll agree with the production quality. There was some cheesy cgi, but there aren't many action packed movies these days that don't have some lame cgi in spots.

I don't get the CGI thing; seems like it should be so much better by now. I can watch the original Jurassic Park and it looks like freakin dinosaurs are with them, yet 25 years later there are movies with better technology making worse CGI.

 

[Danl]

The best black superheroes are still Blankman and Hancock.

And, of course, Black Dynamite!

 

[Jackcrevol]

I don't get the CGI thing; seems like it should be so much better by now. I can watch the original Jurassic Park and it looks like freakin dinosaurs are with them, yet 25 years later there are movies with better technology making worse CGI.

you think maybe they used animatronics?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

you think maybe they used animatronics?

Some of it was, but a lot was CGI. It still remains one of the most impressive uses of CGI IMO.

 

[n_huffhines]

Some of it was, but a lot was CGI. It still remains one of the most impressive uses of CGI IMO.

I totally agree.

I wonder if one reason it looks more fake now is the overall picture is more clear. If you used that same exact technology as JP1, it would look faker in contrast to how sharp they can make Sam Neill look, now.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I totally agree.

I wonder if one reason it looks more fake now is the overall picture is more clear. If you used that same exact technology as JP1, it would look faker in contrast to how sharp they can make Sam Neill look, now.

CGI gets waaay old real fast.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I'll admit, I'm impressed you said white brothers and sisters, first time I've seen you speak as though we're all the same. Which I'm we are all people.

Its funny that because I call out racism, I'm called a racist.

Actually I've said forever that we are all the same and race is nothing but an illusion. Its a social construct created by society. And we being creatures that like to conform, follow our racial roles in this society.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

That’s because they’re not White... they’re ARAB

The Arabs only came into North Africa/Egypt in the 7th century AD.

Before that all of North Africa was entirely black.

 

[SamRebel35]

Its funny that because I call out racism, I'm called a racist.

Actually I've said forever that we are all the same and race is nothing but an illusion. Its a social construct created by society. And we being creatures that like to conform, follow our racial roles in this society.

I'm all for color blindness. No boxes to put people in to! Everybody is their own individual! That's a great thought. Unfortunately, the Color blind theory is not acceptable thought these days. You're denying people their heritage or some nonsense if you try not to identify them by their color or group. That kind of thinking will get you labeled a heretic in the "white privilege" era of identity politics.

 

[NashVol11]

Saw the movie again tonight. I thought it was very funny, though some of the jokes were directed toward people who look at memes or spend time on social media. Agree that it's cheesy at times, and that some of the CGI was questionable; I thought some of the background visuals during T'Challa's visits to the spirit realm looked kind of odd/fake (even for a distorted version of reality). But those are my small gripes about a movie I enjoyed immensely.

 

[the.one.the.only]

There are a lot of racists who typically give black movies like this low ratings while never actually seeing the movie.

This isn't surprising to me.

obviously the black community has never heard of the boy who cried wolf. Y’all say things are racist SO much that nobody cares anymore. Go find something else to whine about. It’s a comic book movie. If it’s good, it’ll get a good rating. If it sucked, it won’t.

 

[NashVol11]

I'm all for color blindness. No boxes to put people in to! Everybody is their own individual! That's a great thought. Unfortunately, the Color blind theory is not acceptable thought these days. You're denying people their heritage or some nonsense if you try not to identify them by their color or group. That kind of thinking will get you labeled a heretic in the "white privilege" era of identity politics.

Colorblindness would have been a better solution if that were the policy from 1607 to the present. But when a country spends 200+ years reinforcing the idea that a certain race is subhuman, we first need to acknowledge and deconstruct that history (and potential lasting effects of it) before we can start acting like it no longer matters.

 

[NashVol11]

obviously the black community has never heard of the boy who cried wolf. Y’all say things are racist SO much that nobody cares anymore.

I see this type of statement a lot, and I strongly disagree with its implication. Regarding racism, if the "wolf" comes (meaning something that is "actually" racist), and you stay in your house and don't do anything about it, then that just means you suck as a person. It's not the black community's fault for "desensitizing you" or "making you not care"; that's on you and you alone.

 

[joevol33]

Its funny that because I call out racism, I'm called a racist.

Actually I've said forever that we are all the same and race is nothing but an illusion. Its a social construct created by society. And we being creatures that like to conform, follow our racial roles in this society.

I’m not being smart, or trying to sound funny, I’m being sincere. There are times you come across as being judgemental towards all white people, and insinuating that we’re all racist because we’re white. I don’t deny there are racist people, I don’t deny what black people went through was a disgrace and should’ve never happened. I personally have a good friend who experienced true discrimination (and I know many have, but not everything is about race like some make it), and it bothers me to this day that he was hurt that way. I have family that married black people, and they have mixed children, and thankfully I’ve never known them to have issues. I’m just saying not everyone looks at people by color like it seems you think at times. If I see someone broke down, I don’t care if they’re white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc, I’ll try to help. If someone tries to break into my home, regardless of race, I’ll shoot. Many of us like people based on character, not color.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Colorblindness would have been a better solution if that were the policy from 1607 to the present. But when a country spends 200+ years reinforcing the idea that a certain race is subhuman, we first need to acknowledge and deconstruct that history (and potential lasting effects of it) before we can start acting like it no longer matters.

So how long do we have to pay for something almost none of us had anything to do with? I don't give a crap what color you are, just be a decent human being, and don't blame me for your troubles. I feel zero guilt because I'm not guilty. Trying to make me feel guilty for something I am not, and not responsible for, reeeaaaallllyy just ticks me off. There are just as many rabid racists in every other race, as there are in the caucasian race...They are all wrong.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I’m not being smart, or trying to sound funny, I’m being sincere. There are times you come across as being judgemental towards all white people, and insinuating that we’re all racist because we’re white. I don’t deny there are racist people, I don’t deny what black people went through was a disgrace and should’ve never happened. I personally have a good friend who experienced true discrimination (and I know many have, but not everything is about race like some make it), and it bothers me to this day that he was hurt that way. I have family that married black people, and they have mixed children, and thankfully I’ve never known them to have issues. I’m just saying not everyone looks at people by color like it seems you think at times. If I see someone broke down, I don’t care if they’re white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc, I’ll try to help. If someone tries to break into my home, regardless of race, I’ll shoot. Many of us like people based on character, not color.

Well said Joe.

 

[NashVol11]

So how long do we have to pay for something almost none of us had anything to do with? I don't give a crap what color you are, just be a decent human being, and don't blame me for your troubles. I feel zero guilt because I'm not guilty. Trying to make me feel guilty for something I am not, and not responsible for, reeeaaaallllyy just ticks me off. There are just as many rabid racists in every other race, as there are in the caucasian race...They are all wrong.

How exactly are you having to pay for it? And what is “it?” Segregation? All of our problems ended in the ‘60s? Lol.

People back then said the same thing. “Quit b*tching about how segregation and Jim Crow are “racist.” It’s separate but equal. Real racism ended with slavery, and stop trying to make me feel responsible for that. You know, that reeeeaaaaaaallllyy just ticks me off.”

EDIT: And I didn't single out "caucasians" one single time. I simply said that America presenting one race as subhuman for hundreds of years may ingrain some attitudes and practices into American society that weren't all magically cured in the '60s. I'm surprised that is a controversial statement or a reason to get defensive.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Me and my ole lady is going to see this movie Saturday night.

Hopefully it lives up to the hype.

 

[SamRebel35]

How exactly are you having to pay for it? And what is “it?” Segregation? All of our problems ended in the ‘60s? Lol.

People back then said the same thing. “Quit b*tching about how segregation and Jim Crow are “racist.” It’s separate but equal. Real racism ended with slavery, and stop trying to make me feel responsible for that. You know, that reeeeaaaaaaallllyy just ticks me off.”

EDIT: And I didn't single out "caucasians" one single time. I simply said that America presenting one race as subhuman for hundreds of years may ingrain some attitudes and practices into American society that weren't all magically cured in the '60s. I'm surprised that is a controversial statement or a reason to get defensive.

You give America the proper amount of crap it deserves for tolerating the black population being treated as subhuman, but you don't give it or the white people involved credit for ending ******n slavery! Slavery isn't a thing now because of America. A little credit where it is due, if you please.

 

[NashVol11]

You give America the proper amount of crap it deserves for tolerating the black population being treated as subhuman, but you don't give it or the white people involved credit for ending ******n slavery! Slavery isn't a thing now because of America. A little credit where it is due, if you please.

America didn't end slavery. America ended slavery in America, which was something it also started. If I started taking a baseball bat to the windows of every car I saw, and then stopped and demanded credit for stopping, I don't think anyone would be very sympathetic.