Masoli ineligible by NCAA/Cleared on appeal

#52
#52
droski said:
i disagree. it's garbage you can get kicked off one team after commiting a felony and a major misdemeanor and then go and start for another div 1 team 2 months later.
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NCAA "rules" would allow it. Not saying it is the correct rule, but based on the rule........yea, he should be eligible. I agree the rule is wrong.
 
#55
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UTvol2011 said:
Why was his so fast? Compared to j hunter
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2 different things... hunter was clearinghouse issue where every kid coming from high school and going on a athletic scholarship has to go through. Masoli was NCAA review of a transfer situation. Not that many of those
 
#57
#57
peaygolf89 said:
NCAA "rules" would allow it. Not saying it is the correct rule, but based on the rule........yea, he should be eligible. I agree the rule is wrong.
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it obviously not the intent of the rule and that's enough for them to block it IMO. it not as though the ncaa is consistant in other matters.
 
#60
#60
peaygolf89 said:
bad for UT, but good for him. He should be!

I see nothing on any website about this. Heard this AM that the NCAA denied his appeal. BTW.....Clay Travis knows nada!
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He should not be cleared. Ridiculous. You heard wrong to by the way. Clay Travis knows waaaay more than you do.
 
#61
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orange parmejohn said:
i knew this was coming. ncaa catching alot of grief over it. not that the ncaa cares much, but this was an easy fire for them to put out. kid did what he was supposed to do. he deserves to play.
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stealing laptops and smoking weed is what you're supposed to do? I'm a lawyer and I'll admit that it feels pretty good to win one on a technicality when you know that under both the spirit of the law and every socially acceptable moral code known to man you should have lost. Since massoli was not my client, I feel like I can say that this was a morally bankrupt miscarriage of justice that sends a horrible message to young would be criminals everywhere.
 
#63
#63
He didn't do what he was supposed to do.

He was ducking a suspension (no pun intended) and took advantage of a rule that, at the very least, was designed to reward kids who kept their academics in order and graduated before their eligibility was up.


EDIT: Well, yeah. What the lawyer said.
 
#64
#64
Good move by the NCAA. He should have never been ruled ineligible in the first place.
 
#65
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
stealing laptops and smoking weed is what you're supposed to do? I'm a lawyer and I'll admit that it feels pretty good to win one on a technicality when you know that under both the spirit of the law and every socially acceptable moral code known to man you should have lost. Since massoli was not my client, I feel like I can say that this was a morally bankrupt miscarriage of justice that sends a horrible message to young would be criminals everywhere.
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I agree with you! I know the 'AA is all about punishing for cheating on your education and taking money, but they reward stealing and getting high??? Even the guys right now on college gameday are surprised.
 
#66
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this has absolutely nothing to do with morals. that technicality is actually a rule and the ncaa should have to eat their words and admit they are wrong. and by what he had to do, i am simply stating that Masoli entered a graduate school that UO doesnt offer.
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
stealing laptops and smoking weed is what you're supposed to do? I'm a lawyer and I'll admit that it feels pretty good to win one on a technicality when you know that under both the spirit of the law and every socially acceptable moral code known to man you should have lost. Since massoli was not my client, I feel like I can say that this was a morally bankrupt miscarriage of justice that sends a horrible message to young would be criminals everywhere.
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Agreed. WTF is the actual waiver process for? On what grounds would one be denied.
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#68
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i bet ole miss threatened to sue the NCAA on the letter of the rule. translation the NCAA wimped out. how long until masoli commits a crime and get kicks off ole miss?
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
stealing laptops and smoking weed is what you're supposed to do? I'm a lawyer and I'll admit that it feels pretty good to win one on a technicality when you know that under both the spirit of the law and every socially acceptable moral code known to man you should have lost. Since massoli was not my client, I feel like I can say that this was a morally bankrupt miscarriage of justice that sends a horrible message to young would be criminals everywhere.
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Well said VH!
 
#70
#70
I'm sorry for not knowing this, but what drug testing in done in college football?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Agreed. WTF is the actual waiver process for? On what grounds would one be denied.
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From what I have heard, if the NCAA had credible evidence that a requestee was not actually pursuing the graduate degree claimed then the waiver would be denied. Evidence that might support a denial would be testimony from credible witnesses that the applicant admitted that the graduate program was a pretext for playing another season of football and he had no intention of completing the degree (this would probably be an old fashoined swearing match) and attendance records showing that the applicant was not attending classes. There might be more, but that is all I can think of at the moment.
 
#74
#74
I think all the flip flopping is ridiculous... However

1) He should be allowed to play... He abided by the rules that were set before him... Yes, he beat the system and violated the "spirit of the rule" but did not violate any rule in particular.

2)The NCAA should change the wording of the rule going forward to exclude players who were suspended/kicked off of a team. He was obviously ducking his suspension and would have played for Oregon this yr if possible. (no pun intended in the last sentence)
 
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