Masoli ineligible by NCAA/Cleared on appeal

#76
#76
droski said:
i bet ole miss threatened to sue the NCAA on the letter of the rule. translation the NCAA wimped out. how long until masoli commits a crime and get kicks off ole miss?
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U still mad that Masoli wrecked your Bears? haha. Grudgesss
 
#77
#77
Still looking forward to the LAPTOP BOWL when Ol'Piss plays auburn.
 
#78
#78
With all off his off the field issues he in my mind does not deserve to play.If any off us did what that thug did we serve at least 18 months in jail.Just my opinion.
 
#79
#79
mitzustu said:
I think all the flip flopping is ridiculous... However

1) He should be allowed to play... He abided by the rules that were set before him... Yes, he beat the system and violated the "spirit of the rule" but did not violate any rule in particular.

2)The NCAA should change the wording of the rule going forward to exclude players who were suspended/kicked off of a team. He was obviously ducking his suspension and would have played for Oregon this yr if possible. (no pun intended in the last sentence)
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This is exactly right, on both counts. The NCAA's biggest problem is that they had previously allowed a suspended player to move from La Tech to UAB to play basketball last year. There was no justification for denying the waiver in Masoli's case.

They should fix the rule, but in the meantime, if you comply with the rule, you can't deny the waiver.
 
#80
#80
Beings he was cleared only 24 hours before gameday, what does everyone think in regards to Masoli starting and/or seeing playing time tomorrow.

I have him on a fantasy team and my other option at QB does not hace a good matchup.
 
#81
#81
Memo to Ole Miss equipment manager: get uniform number 904837 ready for Saturday.....Jeremiah Masoli has been cleared too play
 
#82
#82
peaygolf89 said:
NCAA "rules" would allow it. Not saying it is the correct rule, but based on the rule........yea, he should be eligible. I agree the rule is wrong.
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No its not right, the rules says it must be for "academic reasons". This was clearly not!
 
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bamasucks76 said:
No its not right, the rules says it must be for "academic reasons". This was clearly not!
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Name one player who has used this rule to move for academic reasons.

Why would a player who just spent 3 or 4 years at a university playing for a team leave that school?

Paulus left Duke to play football at Syracuse because he would not get to play QB at Duke. Do you think he really wanted to go to Syracuse after graduating from Duke?

Cooper left La Tech and transfered to UAB because he was dismissed from the La Tech team.

Knox left Alabama and transfered to NC because of playing time (which is a joke because if you can't get on the court at Alabama what makes you think you will at North Carolina).

Bottom line is that nearly everyone that has requested this waiver has done so for athletic, not academic reasons.
 
#86
#86
Glad to hear that he'll play this year as I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out on the field.

I think he has taken a hit for his actions by having to start over at a new program for his last year. He would have been a heisman candidate at Oregon.

Sitting out a year wouldn't have been much of a punishment since he would come back more prepared in a new offense next season anyway.

VolunteerHillbilly said:
stealing laptops and smoking weed is what you're supposed to do? I'm a lawyer and I'll admit that it feels pretty good to win one on a technicality when you know that under both the spirit of the law and every socially acceptable moral code known to man you should have lost. Since massoli was not my client, I feel like I can say that this was a morally bankrupt miscarriage of justice that sends a horrible message to young would be criminals everywhere.
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Just trying to understand here. So, if it benefits you in some way, you feel good about it. But, if not, it's a horrible message?
 
#87
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wheaton4prez said:
Glad to hear that he'll play this year as I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out on the field.

I think he has taken a hit for his actions by having to start over at a new program for his last year. He would have been a heisman candidate at Oregon.

Sitting out a year wouldn't have been much of a punishment since he would come back more prepared in a new offense next season anyway.



Just trying to understand here. So, if it benefits you in some way, you feel good about it. But, if not, it's a horrible message?
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It's miscarriage of justice either way. When I represent a client I am under a professional obligation to do whateve I can within the parameters of law and procedure to advance my client's interests. It's always nicer to win than lose when it comes down to it, but it doesn't change the underlying morality of the situation. All that this boils down to is that Massoli is a common thief and drug user and Ole Miss is desperate enough to win an extra game or two that they are willing to make him the face of their program. Where's the good in letting him play?
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#88
#88
Winning. If he leads them to a successful season and keeps clean his transgressions will be in the past.
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#90
VolunteerHillbilly said:
It's miscarriage of justice either way. When I represent a client I am under a professional obligation to do whateve I can within the parameters of law and procedure to advance my client's interests. It's always nicer to win than lose when it comes down to it, but it doesn't change the underlying morality of the situation. All that this boils down to is that Massoli is a common thief and drug user and Ole Miss is desperate enough to win an extra game or two that they are willing to make him the face of their program. Where's the good in letting him play?
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I'm still not sure about the adjective "nicer" being attached to any kind of miscarriage of justice.

I understand it's your job (and it's important in our society of laws that people do this). But, I have wondered how people have handled this internally, knowing they are getting a person off the hook who has done wrong (and may even do it again). I couldn't do it.

What's the harm in letting him play? He was sentenced, fined, etc. and kicked off a team that he would have been a heisman candidate for. He has already paid the price for acts that every other citizen would and then some. The message being sent is that if you do the things he did, there will be consequences.

Why should he be punished further than any other citizen?

It seems like people get on a roll in cases like this where they feel like not applying every negative consequence possible to someone is the same as not punishing them at all. The whole torches and pitch-forks, witch hunt thing.

I'm more concerned about players who get away with wrong-doing with no consequences whatsoever, like some of the players involved in the Bar Knoxville beating.
 
#91
#91
Most other citizens would be in jail right now. He's lucky not to be. I guess my opinion might change if he actually gets his degree in parks and recreation management from Ole Miss. Otherwise, I stand by my prior stated opinions on the mattter.
 
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