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#251
Lexvol said:
His record in majors, and his putting under pressure have distinguished Tiger. It is why Micklechoke will always be an also ran.
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Unbelievable. He's a multiple major winner. Mickelson will never be an also ran.
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#252
#252
I think "also-ran" is pretty strong. Only 11 players in history have more PGA Tour wins than Mickelson. He also has 3 major wins.
 
#253
#253
volfanbill said:
I don't see how any one could claim Phil's performance was a choke. He went for the win instead of safe shots a couple of times and it cost him. He shot a freaking 67 on Sunday at Augusta.
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It's easy to say when you flat out just don't like the guy. Could you imagine what would being said about Phil today if he'd had Perry's final two holes and playoff performance?

If Phil is an also ran compared to Tiger, then every other golfer that has taken the course since Tiger stepped onto the scene is an also ran as well.
 
#255
#255
Lexvol said:
Someone that prides themselves on his short game shouldn't miss those putts. The fact that Phil has missed them so consistently over the years has earned the apt reputation as a choker. This is what seperates Tiger from the rest of the pros.
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Tiger's performance on 17 and 18 at Augusta has absolutely sucked since he started the awful run against DiMarco.
 
#256
#256
DowntownVol said:
Well, to be honest, I was expecting a final round 75 or 77 or something like that from both Campbell and Perry. Talented players, to be sure, but they're just not guys who strike me as being totally comfortable on the biggest stage in golf. For 70 holes, Kenny Perry proved me wrong. I was pretty much convinced it was over after he stuffed it to a foot on 16; I mean, there's just no freakin' way he plays 17 and 18 at 2 over, right?

Wrong.

Yes, Cabrera had some luck on his side, but he also made some HUGE clutch putts down the stretch.

Finally: Perry's post-tournament interview was nothing but class. Hats off to him for one hell of an effort. As well as he continues to drive the ball, it seems to me that he's a threat in any major (the U.S. Open in particular) if he can just make a few putts.
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KP played very well in the Ryder Cup. That's as much heat as there is. In that Ryder Cup, he had several huge moments and wiped one drive into the water, other than that, he was solid.

The heat clearly got him after 16. That chip on 17 was one of the worst I've ever seen from a pro.

Bottom line from me: he should have hit 3 wood on 18 and gone in with a 6 iron. He does that.

Followed the guy all day and played very well, but made nothing. Number 9 was his only problem prior to 17, which, IMO, wasn't a problem.
 
#257
#257
volinbham said:
I think "also-ran" is pretty strong. Only 11 players in history have more PGA Tour wins than Mickelson. He also has 3 major wins.
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While also ran may be a little too strong, Mickelchoke works for me. I think the fact that he is a prick clouds my judgement.
 
#258
#258
BigPapaVol said:
KP played very well in the Ryder Cup. That's as much heat as there is. In that Ryder Cup, he had several huge moments and wiped one drive into the water, other than that, he was solid.

The heat clearly got him after 16. That chip on 17 was one of the worst I've ever seen from a pro.

Bottom line from me: he should have hit 3 wood on 18 and gone in with a 6 iron. He does that.

Followed the guy all day and played very well, but made nothing. Number 9 was his only problem prior to 17, which, IMO, wasn't a problem.
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In BG over the weekend. Apparently both Campbell and KP are working with a 24 year old swing coach in BG of all places.
 
#259
#259
tidwell said:
It's easy to say when you flat out just don't like the guy. Could you imagine what would being said about Phil today if he'd had Perry's final two holes and playoff performance?

If Phil is an also ran compared to Tiger, then every other golfer that has taken the course since Tiger stepped onto the scene is an also ran as well.
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If Phil is an also ran, the other golfers since the mid nineties just flat out don't exist.
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#260
#260
Lexvol said:
In BG over the weekend. Apparently both Campbell and KP are working with a 24 year old swing coach in BG of all places.
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Played with KP a couple of times in the past. His swing ain't pretty, but he hits her high, long, right to left and very, very, very.....very accurately. Nicest guy in the world.

Who's the swing coach? Which club?
 
#261
#261
Lexvol said:
While also ran may be a little too strong, Mickelchoke works for me. I think the fact that he is a prick clouds my judgement.
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his prickishness is stuff of legend on tour.

Regardless, he is one talented mofo. Short game is deadly and he can be gorilla long when he wants to be. His drives on the back yesterday were unbelievable on the replay. Hell, he flew it into the bunker on 18.
 
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#262
BigPapaVol said:
Played with KP a couple of times in the past. His swing ain't pretty, but he hits her high, long, right to left and very, very, very.....very accurately. Nicest guy in the world.

Who's the swing coach? Which club?
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I'll have to get his name. He is at Olde Stone. Go figure. I still haven't played out there, and I don't know the details, but I think the new ownership is working out well. You may "know" people that have more of a backstory on the place than I do.
 
#264
#264
Lexvol said:
I'll have to get his name. He is at Olde Stone. Go figure. I still haven't played out there, and I don't know the details, but I think the new ownership is working out well. You may "know" people that have more of a backstory on the place than I do.
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Norman Head of Bowling Green was the guy who built that God-awful swing. My wife took lessons from him as a junior. She said he usually spent about half the time griping about Perry in a humorous, grumpy old man sort of way. One story particularly funny was him fuming about coaching a top-ten player who couldn't get his feet lined up with the shot.

On another note, I did not know that Perry's unorthodox swing is at least in part related to a neck injury until this weekend.
 
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#265
NOTE: Wife's swing not God-awful. Wife's swing pretty. Wife's swing makes husband angry and ashamed of own hacking.
 
#267
#267
BigPapaVol said:
Bottom line from me: he should have hit 3 wood on 18 and gone in with a 6 iron. He does that.
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Have you ever seen a more intimidating looking tee shot that didn't involve a water hazard than looking up the chute on 18? Standing behind that tee and looking up the hill is just crazy looking.
 
#269
#269
BigPapaVol said:
KP played very well in the Ryder Cup. That's as much heat as there is. In that Ryder Cup, he had several huge moments and wiped one drive into the water, other than that, he was solid.

The heat clearly got him after 16. That chip on 17 was one of the worst I've ever seen from a pro.

Bottom line from me: he should have hit 3 wood on 18 and gone in with a 6 iron. He does that.

Followed the guy all day and played very well, but made nothing. Number 9 was his only problem prior to 17, which, IMO, wasn't a problem.
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Apparently, everyone should have hit 3-wood on both 17 and 18. Faldo knew what was up. He was fairways and greens all day long, baby.
 
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#271
GAVol said:
Have you ever seen a more intimidating looking tee shot that didn't involve a water hazard than looking up the chute on 18? Standing behind that tee and looking up the hill is just crazy looking.
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That's every bit the difficulty of 18 at Sawgrass. That chute looks about 3 yards wide from the back.
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#272
#272
That's funny that you mentioned 18 at Sawgrass. That's exactly the hole I was thinking of when I qualified it with "that didn't involve a water hazard". I played there one time in a 20 mph wind and there might as well have not been a fairway out there.
 
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#273
#273
BigPapaVol said:
What was he saying?
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i don't think he called anybody flat out stupid, but you could gather he felt that way based on the tone of voice. seemed like every time somebody when for the driver, he would comment on what a bad choice it was. by the end of the day he was becoming impatient.

if Miller had been calling the action, there's no doubt he would have come out and said it.
 
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#274
#274
GAVol said:
That's funny that you mentioned 18 at Sawgrass. That's exactly the hole I was thinking of when I qualified it with "that didn't involve a water hazard". I played there one time in a 20 mph wind and there might as well have not been a fairway out there.
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I hate 18 at Sawgrass but love 18 at Augusta. Doesn't make sense, but one seems fair and the other gimmicky. Doesn't really matter much at either, I can't par either of them.
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#275
doozer said:
i don't think he called anybody flat out stupid, but you could gather he felt that way based on the tone is voice. seemed like every time somebody when for the driver, he would comment on what a bad choice it was. by the end of the day he was becoming impatient.

if Miller had been calling the action, there's no doubt he would have come out and said it.
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I'm with him. 3 woods go 280 now (about 300 for Cabrera). Just hit it short of those bunkers and hit your 6 iron up the hill. KP has enormous confidence in his driving and rightfully so, but at that point he has to hit the 3. His irons were getting iffy, so it probably didn't matter, but that tee shot and the chip at 17 doomed him.
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