Matt Jones comments on Stoops

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PEPPERJAX said:
Two 10 win seasons between 2018-2021 is also very impressive for UK. Funny thing is, both of those 10 win teams still lost to UT.
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Yep. His poor record against us during one of the worst times in our program's history is really about the only thing you can knock him for. The only Tennessee teams he has beaten were the 2017 team that might have been the worst in school history (0-8 SEC) and the awful 2020 Covid team.
 
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gasguy71 said:
That awful Matt Jones is by far the most annoying person on any sports talk show in the world. That voice...
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The guy is a clown. He said he thought Kentucky was a better team than Auburn, granted that’s like bragging on having the smartest kid in the slow class. They’re both not good. Auburn beats itself but is in every game. Kentucky has been boatraced by sc & last week by Florida.
 
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vavolfan6 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he tried his hand at something else. I think he has already maxed out the best he could do when UK managed a 10 win season. During those years, he was able to take advantage of down seasons for both Tennessee and Florida in the SEC East and were generally better than Mizzou, South Carolina, and Vandy. Now that the divisions are defunct, I think the path to 10 wins for a team like Kentucky is extremely difficult.

Stoops might be better suited in the ACC where he could take similar level of talent as Kentucky and compete for conference Championships. Maybe a team like UNC or NC State or Virginia Tech.
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Stoops and his punchable face would fit right in at VT.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I hope the opposite.

I hope Stoops and Napier stay at their current gigs for many, many more years to come. They are two of my favorite rival coaches currently.

It's almost as good as having unlimited pre-registered artillery fire available, 24/7.

Go Vols!
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I hope Napier sticks. Stoops has performed well above UK’s historical average so him leaving probably means them dropping from a mid-tier team back into the cellar of the league.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
His SEC record is 39-60 (.394)

Not exactly “good”.
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True .... and his record vs Tennessee (their biggest football rival), is just 2-9, even though the seasons from 2013-2021 represented an all time low point for the Tennessee program.

However, while prefacing it with "by Kentucky's historical standards," I would have to say that Mark Stoops has done a good job.
 
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Stoops has done good things at UK.
Problem with UK is that come the 2nd or 3rd week of October, no one cares anymore.

Stoops has made a career on that fact as his teams do real good early and then fall off later in the season.
You can kind of tell though that he's getting tired, I wonder how much of his Mom's passing this year plays into that...a person does a lot of thinking na dsoul searching when their Mom passes.
 
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he's the program's all time winningest coach. and he's taken them to 8 straight bowl games (uk record). also, he's currently the longest tenured hc in the conference. he's got my respect for sticking it out and turning uk into a decent football program. that being said, i hope we wtfa next sat.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Stoops has done good things at UK.
Problem with UK is that come the 2nd or 3rd week of October, no one cares anymore.

Stoops has made a career on that fact as his teams do real good early and then fall off later in the season.
You can kind of tell though that he's getting tired, I wonder how much of his Mom's passing this year plays into that...a person does a lot of thinking na dsoul searching when their Mom passes.
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I didn't know that. Sorry to hear that for the Stoops family. You are very right .... nothing is ever the same, especially during the holidays. There is a void that can't be filled.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
Not bad for Kentucky.. They always have a below average SEC roster. They beat a top 10 team this year and nobody was shocked. They put UGA on the ropes and nobody was shocked. I’m not saying he deserves to be in the hall of fame but I think they’re about as good as Kentucky can be without a Heisman caliber QB
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The TN Tits thought Will Levi’s was Heisman level. Maybe Stoops is ready to move to Nashville and go pro also.
 
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wmcovol said:
Jones the Uk homer, said this morning on Mac & Cube that he “wouldn’t be surprised to see Stoops quit after this season”. Said Stoops appears burnt out from all he’s been doing, wanted out last year & brother Bob tells him how great “retirement” is.

Vols need to lay a big butt whoopin on him next Sat.
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Not sure about the reasoning here. Why the haste to retire a coach that's 2-9 against you?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
True .... and his record vs Tennessee (their biggest football rival), is just 2-9, even though the seasons from 2013-2021 represented an all time low point for the Tennessee program.

However, while prefacing it with "by Kentucky's historical standards," I would have to say that Mark Stoops has done a good job.
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To be fair you have to go back to 81 to find a coach that has beat Tennessee more than once and the one that did was fired for multiple recruiting violations, player arrests, and got UK stuck on probation.

2-9 is historically good for them against Tennessee. Heck it's better than Bear Byant did against us there.

By their standards they should give him forever contract.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
I think you forget how bad Kentucky was prior to Stoops. I’d like them to return to that. Stoops is a good coach IMO
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I forget very little, friend.

Mark Stoops is just 2-9 against the Vols. Those two wins came in Butch's last season (remember, the disastrous 2017 season when we lost 8 regular season games for the first time in our history), and in Pruitt's last season, the 2020 Covid year. Both disastrously bad seasons led by bad coaches.

Other than that, Stoops lost to Butch 4 times, lost to Pruitt twice, and has never won against Josh Heupel.

And never will.

I absolutely want Mark to remain the Kentucky coach for years and years to come.

Go Vols!
 
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OrangeCola said:
Stoops has a career winning percentage of 52. Kentucky is 50.2% all-time. He is NOT some great coach that is doing wonders at Kentucky
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Yah, all this Kentucky fan hate for Stoops, contrasted by some Vols fans in this thread fawning over him like he's the second coming of Wildcat Bear Bryant, got me curious.

Like this:

Volfan1000 said:
Stoops is Kentucky's best football coach since Paul Bryant patrolled their sideline.
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Why the hell do some of us think he's one of the best they've ever had, when objectively he is mediocre? And why do the Kentucky fans want so badly to get him off their train?

So I went back and looked. Here are the objective facts of the case.

If we vacate the Wildcats' wins in 2021 (as we should), Mark Stoops is 63-65 all-time at Kentucky. That's a win rate of .492. A losing record. Now let's compare that to some of the best of the previous Kentucky football coaches:

* Rich Brooks was 39-47 (.453). Same general ballpark as Stoops.
* Hal Mumme was 20-26 (.435). Ditto.
* Jerry Claiborne was 41-46-3 (.472). Ditto.
* Fran Curci was 47-51-3 (.480). Ditto. And while cheating, apparently.
* But then there's Bear Bryant. From just after WW II until 1953, he was 60-23-6 at Kentucky, a win rate of .708. !!!

Surely the Stoops lovers can see the difference between .492 -- .453 -- .435 -- .472 -- .480 -- and .708. Stoops might be "the best since Bear Bryant," but that's like picking out one of the seven dwarves to say he's the tallest since Larry Bird.

Back to Stoops: he had two 10-win seasons over ELEVEN years (and one of those seasons saw every win vacated). Most of the rest were 5-7 or 7-6 results. This is Butch Jones level coaching, friends. I'm afraid there is no explaining why some Vols fans admire him.

Mark Stoops isn't some bat-swinging giant for the Wildcats program. He's just another in a long string of mediocre head coaches, typical of the entirety of Kentucky football aside from those 8 magical years with Paul Bryant.

The Kentucky fans have it right. Those Vols fans who think Stoops is awesome for that program, they're wrong.

Therefore, I hope Kentucky keeps Mark Stoops for another couple of decades.

Go Vols!
 
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Don't understand why any Vol fan wants him gone. He is a beatable coach. Having said that I think he has done a good job at KY for what that program is. He complained last yr he needed more NIL $ to be competitive but he knows BB is going to get the majority of that. So he has made the best of a bad situation for a FB coach.

Agree with some other posters, stay make them fire you, take the big payout and retire in style.
 
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