Maymon out indefinitely...

#51
#51
Really sorry to hear the news about Maymon. But as volfan6782 suggests - don't rush the process. It still irks me to this day what Billy Gillespie did to Derrick Jaspar. Basically ruined his career by forcing him to play on a hurt knee.
 
#52
#52
CatsQueue said:
Really sorry to hear the news about Maymon. But as volfan6782 suggests - don't rush the process. It still irks me to this day what Billy Gillespie did to Derrick Jaspar. Basically ruined his career by forcing him to play on a hurt knee.
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I'm sure he was forced
 
#54
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Yankee_Vol said:
I'm sure he was forced
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Wouldn't doubt that at all with Gillispie as the coach. Guy's a complete psycho.

Hopefully he recovers quickly but it sounds like a wait and see situation. Sucks but I'm sure Martin has prepared for such a situation. This is Tennessee after all. I'd certainly rather lose him now rather than January onward.
 
#56
#56
bleedingTNorange said:
I think the bigger concern would be playing shape. If he's scoped tomorrow, 2 weeks as you said, then how long until he's in playing shape?

Martin said right now he couldn't play a game, he isn't in game shape.
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I'd rather him sit and be healthy for the SEC schedule.
 
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Just throwing this out there for discussion, not necessarily my opinion, just a discussion point...

If its January and Maymon is just now coming around to be able to play...do you play him, or redshirt him and bring him back next year? Does it depend on current record?

Seems quick answer is bring him back, he makes you better and you should still be a tourney team...

But...adding him to next years roster could honestly be a national championship quality team.

Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
 
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#59
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bleedingTNorange said:
Just throwing this out there for discussion, not necessarily my opinion, just a discussion point...

If its January and Maymon is just now coming around to be able to play...do you play him, or redshirt him and bring him back next year? Does it depend on current record?

Seems quick answer is bring him back, he makes you better and you should still be a tourney team...

But...adding him to next years roster could honestly be a national championship quality team.

Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
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I think in theory, it would depend on the record at the time of his supposed return.

In all practicality, when he gets healthy, he's gonna want to play, and I doubt a coach would tell him he's got to redshirt.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Just throwing this out there for discussion, not necessarily my opinion, just a discussion point...

If its January and Maymon is just now coming around to be able to play...do you play him, or redshirt him and bring him back next year? Does it depend on current record?

Seems quick answer is bring him back, he makes you better and you should still be a tourney team...

But...adding him to next years roster could honestly be a national championship quality team.

Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
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Of course you don't want to see a senior who had promise have to miss his last year but I think it depends on the record and also who we bring in from recruiting. If he can't go I say you wait it out and see if he can be brought back.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Just throwing this out there for discussion, not necessarily my opinion, just a discussion point...

If its January and Maymon is just now coming around to be able to play...do you play him, or redshirt him and bring him back next year? Does it depend on current record?

Seems quick answer is bring him back, he makes you better and you should still be a tourney team...

But...adding him to next years roster could honestly be a national championship quality team.



Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
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It might be in the best interests of the program and Maymon's future to red shirt based on the above hypothetical. I am not as in tune with Vol recruiting as you are but the question becomes does his return next year effect recruiting in any way? If you can say no big front court recruit will cross the Vols off their list or decommit then the risk is low and a red shirt could be a very reasonable alternative.

If I am Maymon I may be looking to salvage my senior year 100% healthy. It is logical.

On the other hand assuming he returns healthy this year the selection committee should take some early season loses into consideration when seeding. Also the season really is all about peaking at the right time. If other players can progress and develop in Maymon's absence and JM returns the Vols may be in better position to make a run depending on match-ups. This years chalk is beatable so the difference between a #3 seed for instance where you avoid the #1 seed until the regional final and a # 6 or #7 is not as big of a deal as it usually is.

It comes down to a game of poker. You have to know how to play your hand based on the cards you are dealt.

Good luck...
 
#62
#62
bleedingTNorange said:
Look for Q to also get quite a bit of play now at the 4 and a chance to show what he's got.
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Isn't Q listed at 6'5"? He may have a good low post offensive skill set (based on what coaches say)but he's going to have a tough time guarding other 4's in the post.
 
#63
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bleedingTNorange said:
Just throwing this out there for discussion, not necessarily my opinion, just a discussion point...

If its January and Maymon is just now coming around to be able to play...do you play him, or redshirt him and bring him back next year? Does it depend on current record?

Seems quick answer is bring him back, he makes you better and you should still be a tourney team...

But...adding him to next years roster could honestly be a national championship quality team.

Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
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The biggest drawback to Maymon redshirting is there technically is no scholarship for him. (assuming AN signs and Stokes stays 1 more year). If it wasn't for that, I would be all for redshirting him this year and then seeing how far you could get in 2013-2014. As it is, CCM would have to part with a current recruit, "encourage" a current player to leave, or have Stokes go pro. I hope Maymon can get healthy by SEC season myself.
 
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zansdad said:
Isn't Q listed at 6'5"? He may have a good low post offensive skill set (based on what coaches say)but he's going to have a tough time guarding other 4's in the post.
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Dane Bradshaw held his own at 6-3. He will need some help most likely, but defense is as much about positioning and desire as it is skill. If Q has the desire and smarts, he will be adequate.
 
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zansdad said:
Isn't Q listed at 6'5"? He may have a good low post offensive skill set (based on what coaches say)but he's going to have a tough time guarding other 4's in the post.
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Just repeating Zo who said Q is a 4 and will see more time at the 4 now
 
#67
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cncchris33 said:
Dane Bradshaw held his own at 6-3. He will need some help most likely, but defense is as much about positioning and desire as it is skill. If Q has the desire and smarts, he will be adequate.
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Completely different defensive philosophies. Bradshaw survived in part because Pearl's teams played such an up and down chaotic game. CCM doesn't play defense like that and eventually an undersized guy is going to get exposed on the post.
 
#68
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zansdad said:
Isn't Q listed at 6'5"? He may have a good low post offensive skill set (based on what coaches say)but he's going to have a tough time guarding other 4's in the post.
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"I feel like Quinton would've played anyway," Martin said when asked if Maymon's setback magnified Chievous' value. "He is playing some good basketball right now. I don't really have a gauge for how many minutes `Q' will play, but I think he has earned some good minutes at the four position. That's what I thought he would play this year. He is better-suited for the four spot because he can defend big guys, he can knock down 3-point shots, he can move without the ball and it's tough for bigger guys to defend him."
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
"I feel like Quinton would've played anyway," Martin said when asked if Maymon's setback magnified Chievous' value. "He is playing some good basketball right now. I don't really have a gauge for how many minutes `Q' will play, but I think he has earned some good minutes at the four position. That's what I thought he would play this year. He is better-suited for the four spot because he can defend big guys, he can knock down 3-point shots, he can move without the ball and it's tough for bigger guys to defend him."
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Hmm, interesting. I guess we'll see.
 
#73
#73
Depending on the second surgery I would think a redshirt might not be a bad idea. I'm never a big fan of 260 pound athlete trying to return too quickly from a knee injury.
 
#74
#74
bleedingTNorange said:
Just throwing this out there for discussion, not necessarily my opinion, just a discussion point...

If its January and Maymon is just now coming around to be able to play...do you play him, or redshirt him and bring him back next year? Does it depend on current record?

Seems quick answer is bring him back, he makes you better and you should still be a tourney team...

But...adding him to next years roster could honestly be a national championship quality team.

Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
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You play him
 
#75
#75
I see this as a huge opportunity for Miller, but coming off knee surgery, not sure where he is at in recovery. I like his game and never had too many issues when he was in the game last year. Has a lot of energy.

As for Maymon, I could see this coming a mile away and didn't expect him to make it through the year without issues. Meniscus surgery only take 6-8 weeks recovery. He had surgery early April. Played very limited over seas and not practicing now. The writing was on the wall. As for redshirting, it does solve the issue of being thin in the post next year. Something we do not have an issue with this year, even with Maymon sitting. Just depends on where Hall is? Never know if the light finally turns on with him. But come mid Jan, if CCM honestly thinks he has a shot at winning the SEC, then Maymon will play.
 
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