McCain/Palin sink to an all time low in presidential politics

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truefan said:
I can't say I am surprised at Palin, because it seems to be part of her cheap style, but I am terribly disappointed at John McCain. He is supposed to be a man of honor, a man who would never stoop to leveling offensive smears to a political opponent. I realize they are on the ropes, but to resort to lows they have taken themselves is unspeakable. I have never before seen a man of such high character transform so quickly into a dishonorable, hateful and pathetic loser. I have always liked and respected McCain and even considered voting for him. He has become a joke and even more sad, his legacy will be tarnished because of his actions in this campaign. Virtually all of his ads are now negative, attack ads. Say what you want about Obama...his inexperience lends to it, but he does not preemptively attack McCain personally and is much more fit to lead this country.

I have always questioned McCain's "war hero" label given to him due to his time in a POW camp, but I never, not once would have ever thought I could question his honor. I do now and thankfully, this angry old man has little or no chance of becoming our president
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How funny. Democrats and the media loved McCain until he became the nominee. McCains biggest problem is that he waited to long.
 
#81
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VolBeef88 said:
How funny. Democrats and the media loved McCain until he became the nominee. McCains biggest problem is that he waited to long.
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Yeah, it is the media's fault he has become a hateful old man. :eek:k:

I liked McCain up to the point he chose the idiot Sarah Palin to be his running mate. From that point on, they have done nothing but level personal attacks against Obama. They spent all day yesterday talking about Obama instead of campaigning on the issues that are important to the American people. We need leadership. They don't have it. Not one freaking iota
 
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truefan said:
Yeah, it is the media's fault he has become a hateful old man. :eek:k:

I liked McCain up to the point he chose the idiot Sarah Palin to be his running mate. From that point on, they have done nothing but level personal attacks against Obama. They spent all day yesterday talking about Obama instead of campaigning on the issues that are important to the American people. We need leadership. They don't have it. Not one freaking iota
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Yes, I bet you just loved him until then :crazy:

I bet we all believe that. As long as he was reaching accross the aisle and kissing libs asses you the rest of dems and the media loved him. When he bashed any repub he was hailed a Mavrick. But the minute he points out Obamas flaws he is negative. What about all the crap Obama and his idiot running mate have said. Biden is one of the most hateful people in DC. He is a drunk and a bully. You can take your "I used to like him" crap and sell it to someone who may buy it.
 
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truefan said:
Yeah, it is the media's fault he has become a hateful old man. :eek:k:

I liked McCain up to the point he chose the idiot Sarah Palin to be his running mate. From that point on, they have done nothing but level personal attacks against Obama. They spent all day yesterday talking about Obama instead of campaigning on the issues that are important to the American people. We need leadership. They don't have it. Not one freaking iota
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That bothers you but the fact that Obama is friends with a guy who actually attacked AMERICA with bombs doesnt? I guess saying mean things is worse than bombing federal buildings. Your kind of logic is why the french was taken over by the Germans so easily. That mentality is amazing.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
That bothers you but the fact that Obama is friends with a guy who actually attacked AMERICA with bombs doesnt? I guess saying mean things is worse than bombing federal buildings. Your kind of logic is why the french was taken over by the Germans so easily. That mentality is amazing.
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Yes, and if you actually knew anything, you would know that Obama and Ayers were never friends. They worked together on a bi-partizan commission, which was sponsored by a McCain supporter.

Taken from the NY Times
In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year. At a lunch with two other foundation heads, Patricia A. Graham of the Spencer Foundation and Adele Simmons of the MacArthur Foundation, Ms. Leff suggested that Mr. Obama would make a good board chairman, she said in an interview. Mr. Ayers was not present and had not suggested Mr. Obama, she said.

Ms. Graham said she invited Mr. Obama to dinner at an Italian restaurant in Chicago and was impressed.

“At the end of the dinner I said, ‘I really want you to be chairman.’ He said, ‘I’ll do it if you’ll be vice chairman,’ ” Ms. Graham recalled, and she agreed.
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Another snippet of the article
Mr. Obama’s friends said that history was utterly irrelevant to judging the candidate, because Mr. Ayers was never a significant influence on him. Even some conservatives who know Mr. Obama said that if he was drawn to Ayers-style radicalism, he hid it well.

“I saw no evidence of a radical streak, either overt or covert, when we were together at Harvard Law School,” said Bradford A. Berenson, who worked on the Harvard Law Review with Mr. Obama and who served as associate White House counsel under President Bush. Mr. Berenson, who is backing Mr. McCain, described his fellow student as “a pragmatic liberal” whose moderation frustrated others at the law review whose views were much farther to the left.

Some 15 years later, left-leaning backers of Mr. Obama have the same complaint. “We’re fully for Obama, but we disagree with some of his stands,” said Tom Hayden, the 1960s activist and former California legislator, who helped organize Progressives for Obama. His group opposes the candidate’s call for sending more troops to Afghanistan, for instance, “because we think it’s a quagmire just like Iraq,” he said. “A lot of our work is trying to win over progressives who think Obama is too conservative.”

Mr. Hayden, 68, said he has known Mr. Ayers for 45 years and was on the other side of the split in the radical antiwar movement that led Mr. Ayers and others to form the Weathermen. But Mr. Hayden said he saw attempts to link Mr. Obama with bombings and radicalism as “typical campaign shenanigans.”

“If Barack Obama says he’s willing to talk to foreign leaders without preconditions,” Mr. Hayden said, “I can imagine he’d be willing to talk to Bill Ayers about schools. But I think that’s about as far as their relationship goes.”
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nickknx865 said:
Yes, and if you actually knew anything, you would know that Obama and Ayers were never friends. They worked together on a bi-partizan commission, which was sponsored by a McCain supporter.
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that's just plain BS. You don't launch your political career in the home of a stranger.
 
#89
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nickknx865 said:
Yes, and if you actually knew anything, you would know that Obama and Ayers were never friends. They worked together on a bi-partizan commission, which was sponsored by a McCain supporter.

Taken from the NY Times


Another snippet of the article
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This isn't earning you any respect.
 
#93
#93
nickknx865 said:
He didn't.
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Yes he did. He started his State Senate race in his home. He has been quoted many times as calling Ayers a friend. Also Franklin Raynes is his buddy. Do you know who Franky Raynes is? The difference in you and me is that you are a TFB no matter what. I look at candidates and decide accordingly.
 
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