McCollough cleared to play per Trey Wallace

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JCHateSteve said:
Based on that Jaylen showed a great deal of restraint. I'm sure the truth is probably somewhere in between, it usually is. But, dude was admittedly drinking and McCullough was minding his own buisness, in his own apartment, when the guy started the incident. Without some new evidence, this is over. CJH handled this well. I'm annoyed at the PD for not talking to everyone present to start with though.
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They can only talk with the people who will talk with them.

For obvious reasons, our lads are taught, over and over, from their first day in the program, you never engage the police. Cooperate, but keep your mouth shut. Get legal advice and representation before you do anything else. There will be a right time to tell your side of the story, but that doesn't come until later with a lawyer by your side.

It's just common sense, really. Every student at every university everywhere should get the same advice; but we know most don't.

WeNeedaQB said:
After reading this the DA office should be ashamed and reprimanded. Almost as if they are purposefully going after a UT player.
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They're just doing their job. Until they had McCollough's side of the story (backed up by two witnesses), the only thing they could go on was the invader's story.

I expect this case will be dropped fairly quickly now. They'll re-interview the perp, come to a conclusion about what REALLY happened, and drop the charges or reduce it so some misdemeanor (and possibly charge the invader, as well).
 
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There's been ample time to do an investigation and I'm sure they've gotten Burrell's take on it. He must have sided with McCullough, otherwise there wouldn't be a reinstatement
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
They can only talk with the people who will talk with them.

For obvious reasons, I'm confident our lads are taught, over and over, from their first day in the program, you never engage the police. Cooperate, but keep your mouth shut. Get legal advice and representation before you do anything else. There will be a right time to tell your side of the story, but that doesn't come until later with a lawyer by your side.

It's just common sense, really. Every student at every university everywhere should get the same advice; but we know most don't.
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Fair enough, it still seems odd though. You would think the people in his apartment would have at least said he didn't chase him if they came looking for Jaylen their. If not his roommate then his girlfriend. It's sounds like nobody asked questions and arrested him on the word of an admitted drunk with an open container, based on this.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
To play devil's advocate, this is McCullough's version of the story written by his attorney...

With that being said, this version makes a lot more sense than an extremely intoxicated guy remembering vivid details and entire conversations after he got the hell beat out of him...

The actual truth probably lies somewhere in between
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with 2 witnesses and not just the testimony of a drunk moron.
 
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knox-townVOL said:
This is not true, Heupel literally just said like 20 minutes ago in his presser there are no updates to his status
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Sometimes things happen simultaneously.

It is entirely possible for Heupel to be giving a press briefing in one building on campus while the "independent review board" finalizes its investigation and issues a release clearing McCollough to play in another building on the other side of campus.

Those two things can happen near-simultaneously. And apparently did, since you were watching Heupel's press conference a little over a half hour ago, about the same time this update was being tweeted out.
 
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joevols89 said:
So he had to pass student conduct and an independent review board? What is that?
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Well, well, well, joevols89. I remember you were all but ready to sentence McCollough in the original thread due to the "victims" account of what happened without hearing the other side of the story.

Maybe you should let the facts come out before portraying someone as guilty of a serious crime. Or maybe you've discovered your calling as a prosecution attorney!
 
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@VFL-82-JP Do you remember the names of those who pushed the "he must be guilty" narrative? I don't usually go back and hammer people for past bad opinions but this is a special case. I simply argued that we needed to wait to see what all the facts were and that there were some inconsistencies in what the guy said. One poster was SURE JM was guilty because he had had the "exact" same thing happen to him.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
They can only talk with the people who will talk with them.

For obvious reasons, our lads are taught, over and over, from their first day in the program, you never engage the police. Cooperate, but keep your mouth shut. Get legal advice and representation before you do anything else. There will be a right time to tell your side of the story, but that doesn't come until later with a lawyer by your side.

It's just common sense, really. Every student at every university everywhere should get the same advice; but we know most don't.



They're just doing their job. Until they had McCollough's side of the story (backed up by two witnesses), the only thing they could go on was the invader's story.

I expect this case will be dropped fairly quickly now. They'll re-interview the perp, come to a conclusion about what REALLY happened, and drop the charges or reduce it so some misdemeanor (and possibly charge the invader, as well).
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Keeping your mouth shut until you have a lawyer is good advice for anyone, regardless of what happened, and how justified one may have been. It is easy for an errand word to be misconstrued by by people more interested getting wins than believing your side of things, especially when they already think you are guilty.
 
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This Guy said:
I don’t know how the DA can build a case around testimony with this tidbit in the report…
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Seems strange that this was missing from the original report - maybe it’s not considered germane to the reported events but now is included because it is germane to the accusers credibility.

Also interesting that he lost his teeth but held on to his vodka!
 
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VAVol85 said:
Seems strange that this was missing from the original report - maybe it’s not considered germane to the reported events but now is included because it is germane to the accusers credibility.

Also interesting that he lost his teeth but held on to his vodka!
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My question is how he thought JM was responsible for him falling down the steps.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
Fair enough, it still seems odd though. You would think the people in his apartment would have at least said he didn't chase him if they came looking for Jaylen their. If not his roommate then his girlfriend. It's sounds like nobody asked questions and arrested him on the word of an admitted drunk with an open container, based on this.
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That day didn't play out in seconds or minutes. It was hours.

From the incident at 3:30 or so, to the police rolling up somewhere around 5:30, that's a lot of time.

Time for McCollough and his roommate to remind each other, and the girlfriend, that they're not supposed to give testimony until they've gotten a lawyer.

Time for McCollough to be sure the invader isn't coming back, then head off to the dispensary to get his hand treated.

Time for Burrell and McCollough's girlfriend to agree all they would tell police is their names (including McCollough's). Which the initial police report reflected--that's all they said.

I'm certain the police did ask. Asked McCollough what happened. Asked Burrell. Asked the girlfriend. But it seems pretty clear that all three of them were following the directions the players have been given since joining the program: get a lawyer first, then tell your side.
 
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sjt18 said:
OK. So where are all those who were just SURE that McCullough was guilty? They "knew" because they'd experienced something "just like it" before.
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There are always people who automatically believe in guilt just as there are always some who take up for players when allegations are made, and assume they are false. My stance has always been to avoid assuming either side and let the professionals handle things. Our players are fortunate that they have good representation
 
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sjt18 said:
@VFL-82-JP Do you remember the names of those who pushed the "he must be guilty" narrative? I don't usually go back and hammer people for past bad opinions but this is a special case. I simply argued that we needed to wait to see what all the facts were and that there were some inconsistencies in what the guy said. One poster was SURE JM was guilty because he had had the "exact" same thing happen to him.
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No, I suck at holding grudges, man. lol. I don't remember who all it was. Should be easy to find that thread, though.
 
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Stephen Gray said:
There are always people who automatically believe in guilt just as there are always some who take up for players when allegations are made, and assume they are false. My stance has always been to avoid assuming either side and let the professionals handle things. Our players are fortunate that they have good representation
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My particular irritation was with one guy who declared guilt after filling in the missing details with his own experience. He conflated the two and assumed guilt because the events were "exactly the same".
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
No, I suck at holding grudges, man. lol. I don't remember who all it was. Should be easy to find that thread, though.
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Me too. If I'm not mistaken you and I have gone for each others' throats a few times then been buds the next day.

I kind of like it that way to be honest. If two people always agree then one of them is probably full of dung.

OTOH, the jackassery surrounding that accusation was a particular brand.
 
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