McCollough cleared to play per Trey Wallace

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Dadof2Vols said:
Wonder how much adrenaline JM had pumping when he continually tried to defuse by getting guy to leave and the aggressor kept escalating to get back in?
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I can only imagine, a random stranger breaks into your home and refuses to leave is a scary situation. McCullough was amazingly calm not to beat him into oblivion immediately. In my home and many others I know, lead would have met chest had someone acted the way multiple witnesses say the home invader acted.
 
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"Eventually, Mr. Spencer backed up enough to clear the doorframe, at which point Mr. McCollough was able to close the front door..."

Should have stopped there.......
 
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GhostVol said:
"Eventually, Mr. Spencer backed up enough to clear the doorframe, at which point Mr. McCollough was able to close the front door..."

Should have stopped there.......
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He was protecting his property and girlfriend from the intruder which was threatening to reenter the apartment.
 
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Stephen Gray said:
I value what they do, and believe they mostly do a decent job. That said, they make mistakes and there are some bad apples. In general I think we should absolutely cooperate and help them, when it comes to your freedom it’s prudent to protect yourself. Cooperate, but look after your own interests first.
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I absolutely agree most do a great job. That said no one should stake their future on the assumption that they got one of the good ones.
 
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GhostVol said:
And if he'd simply locked the door behind drunky??

What would have happened then?

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Maybe toothless goes to his car and returns with a pistol? Maybe he decides to urinate all over their door? Maybe he throws his liquor bottle through their window? Lots of other things could have potentially happened. You’re not a simpleton, so you already know this. The threat isn’t gone just because they moved to your front porch.
 
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GhostVol said:
And if he'd simply locked the door behind drunky??

What would have happened then?

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If you read the defense’s account, it sounds like he had to be forced out of the apartment. I know in your reality you can simply say “excuse me kind sir but will you please step outside the confines of my domicile?” He got punched bc he tried to go back into the apartment after being forced out.
 
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GhostVol said:
Why follow drunk out? Drunk "has left the building" why did JM follow? Threat is abated at that point, no?
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Is Zion your boyfriend? Did you break into someone’s home and get your ass whooped? Are you a drunk who continues to make stupid decisions and blames others?

Why are you defending the drunk idiot likes it’s your job?

Damn dude it wasn’t JM’s fault. He was minding his own business when spencer broke into his apartment.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
To play devil's advocate, this is McCullough's version of the story written by his attorney...

With that being said, this version makes a lot more sense than an extremely intoxicated guy remembering vivid details and entire conversations after he got the hell beat out of him...

The actual truth probably lies somewhere in between
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On page 4, there is a footnote at the bottom of the page that says there is KPD body cam footage of Spencer holding an empty vodka bottle as they are interviewing him. So it is a bit stronger than just he said/she said.

I can't wait to see this body cam video.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
Based on that Jaylen showed a great deal of restraint. I'm sure the truth is probably somewhere in between, it usually is. But, dude was admittedly drinking and McCullough was minding his own buisness, in his own apartment, when the guy started the incident. Without some new evidence, this is over. CJH handled this well. I'm annoyed at the PD for not talking to everyone present to start with though.
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Their probable cause had to be based on Spencer's bloody mouth and JM's injured fist. Weak sauce.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
They're just doing their job. Until they had McCollough's side of the story (backed up by two witnesses), the only thing they could go on was the invader's story.

I expect this case will be dropped fairly quickly now. They'll re-interview the perp, come to a conclusion about what REALLY happened, and drop the charges or reduce it so some misdemeanor (and possibly charge the invader, as well).
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BS.

Since when in the history of the police have they ever let drunk guy holding an empty vodka bottleat a crime scene go without at least some trumped up open container/public drunkeness/disturbance/whatever else charge they can cook up? The cops had 4 options and had a 75% chance of getting it right, but instead picked the least justifiable option.

1. Arrest neither
2. Arrest both
3. Arrest only Spencer
4. Arrest on JM

For these guys to botch this in this manner either shows ineptitude or corruption.
 
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VAVol85 said:
Also interesting that he lost his teeth but held on to his vodka!
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I thought that was interesting also. You gotta think of how much time passed between the time he got punched to the time the cops arrived. He didn't think to get rid of an open bottle as he knew the cops were on the way? Also shows his level of poor judgement.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
Yeah, that's the thing that blew my mind. Sure the guy may have remembered the pain from being hit, but if he was so drunk as to not even know where he was, he probably remembered VERY little that actually happened or what he said/did.
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He remembered calling JM a "di*k".
 
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GhostVol said:
"Eventually, Mr. Spencer backed up enough to clear the doorframe, at which point Mr. McCollough was able to close the front door..."

Should have stopped there.......
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Tennessee's Castle Doctrine
In Tennessee deadly force is legal when used to defend one's self, when they believe that there is a threat of immediate death or serious bodily injury. This belief must be founded on reasonable grounds. There is no duty to retreat from anywhere that the person has the right to be.

A drunk man entered his apartment. Tried to renter the apartment. He has a right to stand his ground and once a drunk stranger starting advancing he feared for his well being and protected himself and property. He did not know the intentions of a drunk stranger. He did know that the stranger tried to re enter the apartment after he was told to leave by McCollough and Burrell multiple times.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
To play devil's advocate, this is McCullough's version of the story written by his attorney...

With that being said, this version makes a lot more sense than an extremely intoxicated guy remembering vivid details and entire conversations after he got the hell beat out of him...

The actual truth probably lies somewhere in between
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There was only 1 punch thrown.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
To play devil's advocate, this is McCullough's version of the story written by his attorney...

With that being said, this version makes a lot more sense than an extremely intoxicated guy remembering vivid details and entire conversations after he got the hell beat out of him...

The actual truth probably lies somewhere in between
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And it's his right to say his side through an attorney where it's privileged and cannot and will not be used against him.

Also it's the states job to prove his guilt. He's innocent until then. Sounds like the state doesn't have a case to me.
 
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i don’t post much but just felt the need to say this is all bogus. Yeah, I’m bias, but I’m also a police officer in this state. I’m not afraid to call wrong wrong. If what has been reported is even 90% truth, the only person who should have been charged is the one who got handled appropriately. ***i will also edit this to point out that I am fully aware of how there are 3 sides to every story, and could be totally off base with how this went down ***
 
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