McRae going PRO?

#51
#51
JoseDaMofo said:
Very good. However, what you're referencing is a common term known as "odds". Thank you for lecturing on something you weren't well-versed in, though.
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Ummm. Weren't you the one who claimed there was a 50/50 chance he'd go pro? So, ummm, wouldn't that make you the jackass in this equation?

Oh, and I'm a math major. I've taken (and am taking) many probability classes over the past few years. I'm plenty well-versed. I don't know what you do for a living, but unless your job involves math, the chances are I could make you look pretty stupid.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
It would be interesting.

I think the only difference between the two is that Scotty underachieved, and Jordan has overachieved, based on their rankings out of high school.

But Jordan doesn't need to go pro yet. I know his stock is decent right now, but look at what happened to Scotty. He's not playing in the NBA, and probably won't ever. Another year would have done Scotty good, and another year will help Jordan most likely.

I think Jordan has incredible potential. Scotty, I never said that about.
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This is where you lost me completely. Scotty had a higher ceiling than McRae in almost every facet. He had outings where he appeared to be the best player in the country (See, Pitt). He was too bi-polar though, and not a hard enough worker. His laziness pegged him as one of the best players in the SEC. McRae's hard work did the same. Give McRae's work ethic (or almost any UT player this year) to Scotty, and he's playing in the league now. McRae will go further, but Scotty had more potential than almost any UT player we've had in a while (Tyler smith the only one i'd argue being close in the all around game.)
 
#54
#54
He needs to add weight if he is going to be a wing on the next level. They will physically dominate him in the half court.
 
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Daloth said:
This is where you lost me completely. Scotty had a higher ceiling than McRae in almost every facet. He had outings where he appeared to be the best player in the country (See, Pitt). He was too bi-polar though, and not a hard enough worker. His laziness pegged him as one of the best players in the SEC. McRae's hard work did the same. Give McRae's work ethic (or almost any UT player this year) to Scotty, and he's playing in the league now. McRae will go further, but Scotty had more potential than almost any UT player we've had in a while (Tyler smith the only one i'd argue being close in the all around game.)
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Think you have to mention Tobias here.

Mcrae needs to add 15-20 pounds to his frame and his ball handling has to get significantly better.
 
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utfan72408 said:
Ummm. Weren't you the one who claimed there was a 50/50 chance he'd go pro? So, ummm, wouldn't that make you the jackass in this equation?

Oh, and I'm a math major. I've taken (and am taking) many probability classes over the past few years. I'm plenty well-versed. I don't know what you do for a living, but unless your job involves math, the chances are I could make you look pretty stupid.
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You've made yourself look stupid. I don't need to continue this conversation to accentuate of that point, however, I find it pretty sad that you're either a self-alleged mathematics major without a cognizant distinction between odds and chance, or some pompous kid who's throwing out a major to sound intelligent. Doesn't bode well for you either way.

Saying there's a 50/50 chance he goes pro is the same as saying it's a flip of a coin -- an unplanned, unpredictable and unexpected flip of the coin. Obviously, the scenario's not that, therefore, it's not a "chance" scenario -- hence, the term "odds".

Should we keep this going?
 
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Spartacavolus said:
He needs to add weight if he is going to be a wing on the next level. They will physically dominate him in the half court.
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Kevin Durant would like a word with that thought process. I think McRae can at least bench 150 a few times.


TooLegit2Quit said:
Think you have to mention Tobias here.

Mcrae needs to add 15-20 pounds to his frame and his ball handling has to get significantly better.
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Yeah, I didn't consider tobias because he lived up to his potential for the most part for the year he was here. we all knew at his best he would be the 3rd or so best guy on a good NBA team. Yes, he's killing it for the magic right now, but there's a reason for that.

McRae has the potential to be a less crazy J.R. Smith. Scotty had the potential to be a rich man's Rashard Lewis or so.
 
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JoseDaMofo said:
You've made yourself look stupid. I don't need to continue this conversation to accentuate of that point, however, I find it pretty sad that you're either a self-alleged mathematics major without a cognizant distinction between odds and chance, or some pompous kid who's throwing out a major to sound intelligent. Doesn't bode well for you either way.

Saying there's a 50/50 chance he goes pro is the same as saying it's a flip of a coin -- an unplanned, unpredictable and unexpected flip of the coin. Obviously, the scenario's not that, therefore, it's not a "chance" scenario -- hence, the term "odds".

Should we keep this going?
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1. I find it funny you dug up my post from THREE DAYS AGO and then ask if we should keep it going. You could have ended it there.

2. Nothing made up about it. I'm a math major. Believe it if you want. I'm not all that great at it, but still better than most.

3. Let me pull up your original post.

JoseDaMofo said:
Since there are only two foreseeable options, obviously the chance of him declaring are greater than 0% -- it's 50%.

Some people aren't familiar with the definition of chance, in these instances.
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JoseDaMofo said:
Saying there's a 50/50 chance he goes pro is the same as saying it's a flip of a coin -- an unplanned, unpredictable and unexpected flip of the coin. Obviously, the scenario's not that, therefore, it's not a "chance" scenario -- hence, the term "odds".
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Now unless I forgot how to read, you declared, right here, that there was a 50% chance he'd go pro. You just contradicted yourself.

I know the difference between odds and chance. But you originally called it 'chance' and it's not.

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Edit: I think I see what you're saying now. That's one hell of a technicality, though, dude. It was probably unnecessary for you to say what you said in the first place.

Also, 'odds' and 'chance', while not the same thing, are often used interchangeably. So I think this miscommunication is understandable.

All the best. :hi:
 
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865dude said:
Kobe is a lot better defender.
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Much more consistent shooter and less streaky. Much better defender.

But J.R. Smith is probably a better athlete. Smith would probably be among the top 5 in pure athleticism for his size in the NBA. I still remember seeing him do things in high school that some NBA guys can't do.
 
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#72
McRae going PRO?
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:lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove:

Any scout watching his last two games are shaking their heads in dismay about his professional future.

McRae has to come back and work on his ball handling, passing, and defense before he is ready to even consider playing professionally.
 
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Daloth said:
Kevin Durant would like a word with that thought process. I think McRae can at least bench 150 a few times.

Yeah, I didn't consider tobias because he lived up to his potential for the most part for the year he was here. we all knew at his best he would be the 3rd or so best guy on a good NBA team. Yes, he's killing it for the magic right now, but there's a reason for that.

McRae has the potential to be a less crazy J.R. Smith. Scotty had the potential to be a rich man's Rashard Lewis or so.
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Durant and McRae shouldn't even be within a sentence of each other right now :p

but i agree that McRae can potentially be like JR Smith...lotta similarities, at least to my untrained eye
 
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Daloth said:
Kevin Durant would like a word with that thought process. I think McRae can at least bench 150 a few times.





Yeah, I didn't consider tobias because he lived up to his potential for the most part for the year he was here. we all knew at his best he would be the 3rd or so best guy on a good NBA team. Yes, he's killing it for the magic right now, but there's a reason for that.

McRae has the potential to be a less crazy J.R. Smith. Scotty had the potential to be a rich man's Rashard Lewis or so.
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Comparing McRae to Durant? You realize Durant is basically 7 feet tall?
 
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