Meaningless bowl game

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jim pique said:
FLSTF-VOL,You play the "meaningless"game because you are still at UT.You play because it is you,your teammates and your school.Those who can go into the League,do so.We are proud of you.FLSTF,You are the only meaningless thing on this board.Just go away.The Orange color players and we wear hasn't faded to the yellow that your back shows.
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Do you have some kind of reading comprehension problem? I would highly suggest that you go back and reread the entirety of my original post.
 
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Living in Florida I don't get to see the Vols LIVE every Saturday like I did growing up during the golden Era or when I went to school there.......so yes, when they come close enough I'll be in the stands and for me that's usually a bowl game. 3 days relaxing in Coconut Grove area of Miami and a NY6 bowl?........Merry Christmas to me!!!!
 
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Hey, does it suck that Hyatt and Tillman aren’t playing? Yes. Do I understand why they are opting out and want nothing but the best for both of them? Absolutely. Look at it this way…it’s a good preview of next years offense and gives them 15 extra practices together and a live game against a good opponent.
 
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One of my best friends is a Clemson friend (I know, insert bad judgement joke here). He was saying too how disappointed he is now in this game. He feels like it is a no win situation for Clemson. They lose and they will here how bad the ACC is that their champs could not beat Tennessee's second string. They lose and the media will just say they Beat a team without Hooker, Tillman and Hyatt. I agree with him.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
If the Orange Bowl is nothing more than a meaningless game, why watch it? Why play it? Why should we be excited about it? I mean why should any of these NFL-ready seniors or underclassmen play? If it's so easy for these players to simply opt-out and not compete why play the games? Who wants to watch a glorified scrimmage between teams playing "the next man up"? Why would I want to spend thousands of dollars to go see a game that is meaningless? Why would I want to invest in the season knowing that it won't matter unless we make the playoffs? I don't really want to see the stars of tomorrow, I can see them next year. I want to see the stars of today.

We haven't been to a bowl game of this caliber for more than a decade, but it's meaningless.

Edit: For the love of god! I am being facetious here! Of course, I think it has meaning. This was in response to several posters claiming that the game is meaningless or nothing more than a glorified scrimmage in the Hyatt opt-out thread.
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The NBA all star game is meaningless and some players opt out but millions still watch because IT IS ENTERTAINING!!!
The slam dunk contest is meaningless but it is ENTERTAINING so people watch.
The 3 point shot contest is meaningless but people watch because it is ENTERTAINING.
People watch MLB because it ENTERTAINING, the players see it as fun and acknowledgement of their accomplishment and people/businesses make a lot of money because of the ENTERTAINMENT value. Otherwise it is meaningless. Well one team will get home field advantage because of the outcome so maybe it is not entirely meaningless if your team makes it to the World Series.
Millions watch badminton or beach volleyball at the Olympics because they find it entertaining but the results are really meaningless.

People watch the bowl games for entertainment, not for some kind of meaning other than maybe silly pride. Do you watch all the UT sports teams? They probably have as much “meaning” but I only watch a couple of them because they are ENTERTAINING.
 
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#134
A player putting his family and future career over one game doesn’t mean the game is meaningless to him. It’s called priorities. This one game means less to Hyatt than his future. How do ppl struggle with this so much?

He’s still going to the game and supporting his team. Get over yourselves.
 
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The only meaning bowls have ever had is whatever the fans have given it. They have never really mattered. There was just nothing better to get excited about, so you got excited about bowl games. Now with the playoffs there is less shine on the bowl games, but they are still just as important and meaningful as they were pre playoffs.

It's a chance to see more football, no idea why you guys want less. I will watch every bowl game I can before the long dark void.

It's a chance to rep other players. Try out new things. Play teams we normally wouldnt.

It's still exciting for me as a fan of college football as a sport. I dont know these teams, so some starter being out doesnt hurt me.

And now with all the opt outs it's an even better indicator of what your teame I'll be like next year. So if you want meaning, the other bowl games will/should give you a good idea about the preseason rankings, and we have seen those matter. A one loss OSU got treated much differently than a 1 loss Tennessee. Preseason bias, earn it in the bowl games.

And that doesnt even cover the additional money for the school, or the gifts and experiences for the players. A reward for them for a successful year. A chance for non local fans to see their team. A chance to spread your brand for recruiting.

I see plenty of meaning. Only issue is people getting distracted from what used to be the focus in the sport. Just because things have changed doesnt mean your enjoyment has to change too.
 
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I am indeed thankful for so many things. I am so blessed. Thankful for Jesus. Thankful for my fiancé and my family. Thankful for a holiday season where I can eat awesome food, enjoy the Christmas decorations, kick back and enjoy a lot of sports while the cold winds blow outside. Just a little break from the daily disasters and political BS. Also thankful for Vol Nation and Freak for setting us up with bowl pick parlay. Go Vols! The practice time and playing Clemson, one of the better teams in the Nation, will help us. No Fear here....just give your all for Tennessee. 2022...what a fantastic year to be a Vol fan!
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Do you mean this:
  1. a philosophical theory or approach which emphasizes the existence of the individual person as a free and responsible agent determining their own development through acts of the will.
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Woops, meant nihilism. Sorry wrong ism
 
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LouderVol said:
The only meaning bowls have ever had is whatever the fans have given it. They have never really mattered. There was just nothing better to get excited about, so you got excited about bowl games. Now with the playoffs there is less shine on the bowl games, but they are still just as important and meaningful as they were pre playoffs.

It's a chance to see more football, no idea why you guys want less. I will watch every bowl game I can before the long dark void.

It's a chance to rep other players. Try out new things. Play teams we normally wouldnt.

It's still exciting for me as a fan of college football as a sport. I dont know these teams, so some starter being out doesnt hurt me.

And now with all the opt outs it's an even better indicator of what your teame I'll be like next year. So if you want meaning, the other bowl games will/should give you a good idea about the preseason rankings, and we have seen those matter. A one loss OSU got treated much differently than a 1 loss Tennessee. Preseason bias, earn it in the bowl games.

And that doesnt even cover the additional money for the school, or the gifts and experiences for the players. A reward for them for a successful year. A chance for non local fans to see their team. A chance to spread your brand for recruiting.

I see plenty of meaning. Only issue is people getting distracted from what used to be the focus in the sport. Just because things have changed doesnt mean your enjoyment has to change too.
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Bowl games outside of a handful have always basically been the NIT for college football. People got excited for them because....well it's all we were offered. Between the choice of no more football games after the last regular season game or 1 more, most fans and players probably wanted one more.

People (i.e. older generations) get mad at the Bowl Coalition/BCS/CFP of the "ruining of the bowl games" but that didn't ruin anything, it just pointed out what had been true forever; that most bowl games didn't in fact "matter".

Oh and adding a 12th regular season game and creating a bowl so that every 6-6 team can go to one way more "ruined" bowl games than deciding to join the rest of the sane sports world and have a playoff.
 
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If they went to a 64-team playoff like Coach Leach wanted, then there wouldn't be any meaningless bowl games. :)
 
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I think the body of work for the season is over, we can look back at this year and be happy we have improved in such a dramatic fashion and look forward to the future, as far as the bowl game, to me its more of a exhibition game anymore unless you are in the playoff, just one last chance for the fans to watch their team for the year and enjoy the holidays.
 
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Hawkeye4588 said:
One of my best friends is a Clemson friend (I know, insert bad judgement joke here). He was saying too how disappointed he is now in this game. He feels like it is a no win situation for Clemson. They lose and they will here how bad the ACC is that their champs could not beat Tennessee's second string. They lose and the media will just say they Beat a team without Hooker, Tillman and Hyatt. I agree with him.
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I like that in both of his scenarios, they lose. 😏
 
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Orange Bowl is a Top 2 Tier Bowl - and therefore worthy of watching. (and gonna be good press for UT)

Liberty Schmiberty Bowl, Mayonnaise Bowl, Sarsaparilla Bowl, The Cure Bowl, Spud Bowl, etc. and seriously doubt I would watch - as those matter very little
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Thanks for that insightful reply. It's awesome that you took the time to actually find the threads, copy and paste each of them for our review than to just ignore this thread altogether.
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It’s awesome that most people were disagreeing with you on the other threads, so you decided to make this new one in hopes that more people would agree with you. The majority doesn’t, and you don’t have higher character than anyone else because of your hypothetical reactions to situations you aren’t in.
 
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spacificislander said:
It’s awesome that most people were disagreeing with you on the other threads, so you decided to make this new one in hopes that more people would agree with you. The majority doesn’t, and you don’t have higher character than anyone else because of your hypothetical reactions to situations you aren’t in.
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Maybe you should be more concerned with how your man bun looks today and which scented beard oil your gonna use.
 
#150
#150
Folks we have an amazing coaching staff and in my opinion the best offensive play caller in all of college football with Heupel. Get excited for this Orange Bowl! We all just might be pleasantly suprised.
 
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