Megan Barry

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GreveHaller said:
A couple of things people should keep in mind about this well thought out antic.

*Forest, aka Barry's boy toy, had been head of security for not only Barry but the previous two administrations. She didnt cherry pick him or promote him. She inherited him. It will be very difficult to definitely prove she purposely did it for him to make more money.

*All of Forest overtime was on the job. Yes, there was an increase, in fact a dramatic increase, but ever thing he did was job related. They will have to scrutinize every hour and minute he claimed as OT to find a time when he wasnt working.

*As mentioned, he was paid OT to work. If he works and his superior signed off on it, he deserves it. That's not an opinion. Its the law. If he followed the proper channels you cant get the money back. This isnt like Barry bought a Lamborghini for her official mayor car instead of using the Toyota Prius the previous admin had or upgraded the bathrooms to gold toilets. Its wages and that's a totally different ballgame than purchased objects.

*Forest didnt retire quickly due to being scared or it being made public. He was smart. Very smart. He had accrued enough service to be eligible to start receiving a pension. In Nashville its called the rule of 84. When your age + your years of service is 84 you can begin to receive your pension. He's over 50 and had 30+ yrs of service so he could do it. The brilliant part was why now. When pension is determined, they use your income over the past 5 years as the guide to what you will make and that's regular salary plus overtime (this is for all employees which includes the police). With the money he's made over these 5 yrs, nows the time to stop. Work anymore after all this came out and he would get no where as much OT as now. He's maximized his pension before it decreased.
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You get it.

It doesn't take a genius to look at this and conclude that there was some malfeasance going on regarding his OT pay. However, they do have potential plausible explanations for his pay.

- There is precedent for the Nashville mayor to have a "security detail" as silly as that sounds. This same guy provided security for previous mayors. It wasn't like this was some position Mayor Barry invented for him or something.

- For all of the visits, there (presumably) was some official, business-related reason for her being there. Might she have wanted to go on some of them (especially the one to Athens, where it was just the two of them) with primarily their affair in mind? Sure, but that's really difficult to prove. She was attending some mayor's summit in Greece, and brought him along as "security" (which previous mayors would have done).

She'll get away with it and keep her job unless there is some brazen, very obvious overstating of his OT hours (e.g., he claimed to work a bunch of hours on a day where she had no public events or something).
 
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Have you seen Forest wife? She’s a Barbie/trophy wife. He cheated on her ...for Barry. Smh

Pickens-she’s a McG alumni. C/o 82
 
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GreveHaller said:
A couple of things people should keep in mind about this well thought out antic.

*Forest, aka Barry's boy toy, had been head of security for not only Barry but the previous two administrations. She didnt cherry pick him or promote him. She inherited him. It will be very difficult to definitely prove she purposely did it for him to make more money.

*All of Forest overtime was on the job. Yes, there was an increase, in fact a dramatic increase, but ever thing he did was job related. They will have to scrutinize every hour and minute he claimed as OT to find a time when he wasnt working.

*As mentioned, he was paid OT to work. If he works and his superior signed off on it, he deserves it. That's not an opinion. Its the law. If he followed the proper channels you cant get the money back. This isnt like Barry bought a Lamborghini for her official mayor car instead of using the Toyota Prius the previous admin had or upgraded the bathrooms to gold toilets. Its wages and that's a totally different ballgame than purchased objects.

*Forest didnt retire quickly due to being scared or it being made public. He was smart. Very smart. He had accrued enough service to be eligible to start receiving a pension. In Nashville its called the rule of 84. When your age + your years of service is 84 you can begin to receive your pension. He's over 50 and had 30+ yrs of service so he could do it. The brilliant part was why now. When pension is determined, they use your income over the past 5 years as the guide to what you will make and that's regular salary plus overtime (this is for all employees which includes the police). With the money he's made over these 5 yrs, nows the time to stop. Work anymore after all this came out and he would get no where as much OT as now. He's maximized his pension before it decreased.
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While she inherited the security detail, there is no actual legislation or law from the city that legislates that Metro has to protect to mayor via a dignitary protection unit (Aka DPU).

The problem isn't that the security unit has been for previous mayors and rolled over to her. Its the fact that she said many times that "Metro requires I (the mayor) be protected / have a security detail."

That is the area that the reporters should investigate as Metro Police can't just create a DPU and say we are required to protect the mayor. This is something the Council would have to allow/prevent as there is a big financial aspect. If it comes out that the council was allowing Metro PD to run whatever they want with no oversight, this could actually not only impact the Mayor, but Metro as well.

Guarantee you will some Prick Council Member talking about this very point and claim that Council needs more power to oversee tax dollars going to Metro.
 
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Obsessed said:
Let us tar and feather him...
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JMSqb11 said:
While she inherited the security detail, there is no actual legislation or law from the city that legislates that Metro has to protect to mayor via a dignitary protection unit (Aka DPU).

The problem isn't that the security unit has been for previous mayors and rolled over to her. Its the fact that she said many times that "Metro requires I (the mayor) be protected / have a security detail."

That is the area that the reporters should investigate as Metro Police can't just create a DPU and say we are required to protect the mayor. This is something the Council would have to allow/prevent as there is a big financial aspect. If it comes out that the council was allowing Metro PD to run whatever they want with no oversight, this could actually not only impact the Mayor, but Metro as well.

Guarantee you will some Prick Council Member talking about this very point and claim that Council needs more power to oversee tax dollars going to Metro.
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While that part might not be entirely accurate, there is a long precedent for the mayor to have a security detail. This same guy did security for previous mayors. I believe Metro "strongly recommended" that mayors have security details. She has a totally plausible explanation there.
 
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05_never_again said:
While that part might not be entirely accurate, there is a long precedent for the mayor to have a security detail. This same guy did security for previous mayors. I believe Metro "strongly recommended" that mayors have security details. She has a totally plausible explanation there.
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Once again, its going completely over your head.

Its not that there is precedent based on past mayors receiving a DPU. Its the fact that when asked about it, she specifically said the equivalent of "well, I didn't ask for it, Metro told me I had to have this."

If there is no law/legislation that Metro can create a DPU for Mayors and Metro did it themselves, that's a big problem.

Now did the past mayors prolly tell Metro they wanted this and to make it happen? Most likely. But if it comes out that there is no law or legislation requiring Metro to have a DPU to protect the mayor, then there should be serious conversations about theft in terms of taxdollars to fund an affair between the mayor and a subordinate.


Now I don't blame Barry for taking a Detail because other mayors have had it. However, the other mayors didn't apparently take major advantage of the detail because they either didn't have female cops or they weren't gay.


Precedent means nothing here because of how Barry explained the reason Forest traveled with her so much. If she would have simply said "well there is precedent for having a detail as the last two mayors had it", that's one thing. But to say that the Metro PD requires here to have it is another. Especially if Metro is paying the DPU for trips she takes that are political and she isn't reimbursing the city for the travel costs.
 
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Attorneys in Nashville have asked the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to look into possible misappropriation of funds in connection to the recently revealed affair between Mayor Megan Barry and her head of security.

Barry said she will cooperate with agents moving forward.

CBS affiliate WTVF obtained the travel records and discovered during 2017 alone, the two traveled to Washington, D.C., Salt Lake City, San Francisco, Denver and New York. They even went to PARIS and GREECE, all on the taxpayer’s dime.

DA asks TBI to investigate Nashville mayor’s spending | WREG.com
 
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We're gonna find out she was bangin' hog too..... he may be the other guy Travis is referring to
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Attorneys in Nashville have asked the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to look into possible misappropriation of funds in connection to the recently revealed affair between Mayor Megan Barry and her head of security.

Barry said she will cooperate with agents moving forward.

CBS affiliate WTVF obtained the travel records and discovered during 2017 alone, the two traveled to Washington, D.C., Salt Lake City, San Francisco, Denver and New York. They even went to PARIS and GREECE, all on the taxpayer’s dime.

DA asks TBI to investigate Nashville mayor’s spending | WREG.com
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This will get even bigger if it turns out that the city was paying for her "security" while on political trips since the city would have to be reimbursed for any travel that requires Metro employees.
 
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Why in the hell would the mayor of Nashville, Tennessee be traveling to PARIS, FRANCE and somewhere in GREECE, using taxpayer money to fund the trips for herself and her Lover?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Once again, its going completely over your head.

Its not that there is precedent based on past mayors receiving a DPU. Its the fact that when asked about it, she specifically said the equivalent of "well, I didn't ask for it, Metro told me I had to have this."

If there is no law/legislation that Metro can create a DPU for Mayors and Metro did it themselves, that's a big problem.

Now did the past mayors prolly tell Metro they wanted this and to make it happen? Most likely. But if it comes out that there is no law or legislation requiring Metro to have a DPU to protect the mayor, then there should be serious conversations about theft in terms of taxdollars to fund an affair between the mayor and a subordinate.


Now I don't blame Barry for taking a Detail because other mayors have had it. However, the other mayors didn't apparently take major advantage of the detail because they either didn't have female cops or they weren't gay.


Precedent means nothing here because of how Barry explained the reason Forest traveled with her so much. If she would have simply said "well there is precedent for having a detail as the last two mayors had it", that's one thing. But to say that the Metro PD requires here to have it is another. Especially if Metro is paying the DPU for trips she takes that are political and she isn't reimbursing the city for the travel costs.
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None of it is going over my head.

There is precedent for the mayor to have a security detail. This is an important point. This same guy did security for previous mayors. I agree that Barry is incorrect when she indicates that she "had" to have security (more like it was strongly suggested by the police) but that's kind of irrelevant and not enough to bring her down. It's not like she made that statement under oath or something.

We know what his salary was when he was working security for previous mayors, so you can use that as a baseline for what he "should" be making. His OT pay then exploded under Barry, who he was sleeping with. That should be investigated, although I anticipate they could produce plausible reasons for each hour of overtime. Those reasons I'm sure are hard to believe, but difficult to disprove.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Why in the hell would the mayor of Nashville, Tennessee be traveling to PARIS, FRANCE and somewhere in GREECE, using taxpayer money to fund the trips for herself and her Lover?
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She went to a couple of "summits" where mayors from all over the world get together and talk about stuff. Sounds like a BS, not exactly mandatory thing to attend, but they were actual events. More than enough cover to claim it as a legitimate trip.
 
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05_never_again said:
None of it is going over my head.

There is precedent for the mayor to have a security detail. This is an important point. This same guy did security for previous mayors. I agree that Barry is incorrect when she indicates that she "had" to have security (more like it was strongly suggested by the police) but that's kind of irrelevant and not enough to bring her down. It's not like she made that statement under oath or something.

We know what his salary was when he was working security for previous mayors, so you can use that as a baseline for what he "should" be making. His OT pay then exploded under Barry, who he was sleeping with. That should be investigated, although I anticipate they could produce plausible reasons for each hour of overtime. Those reasons I'm sure are hard to believe, but difficult to disprove.
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Precedence. Does. Not. Mean. A. Thing.

Yes she did. I don't know if you understand the difference of On the Record and Off the Record, but making a statement on video with a journalist means the conversation was ON THE RECORD and thereby "Under Oath."

Secondly, precedent doesn't matter because there has never been a time on tape, you know ON THE RECORD, where the Mayor having a detail has been the law of the land for Metro like Barry is claiming.

Its very likely that the mayor asked Metro to form a DPU for security. However in the manner than Barry says its legally required, it opens up a whole can of worms in terms of oversight for the Mayor's office and Metro itself.

If she would have said "it is precedent", that's fine. But the fact she said On the Record that Metro requires her to have one is completely sketchy.


Also, she knowingly had a secret affair with a subordinate. Unless there is documentation proving otherwise, there is no reason to assume that any OT pay over Forest average was legitimate.

Once again, she has to prove everything to be legit.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Precedence. Does. Not. Mean. A. Thing.

Yes she did. I don't know if you understand the difference of On the Record and Off the Record, but making a statement on video with a journalist means the conversation was ON THE RECORD and thereby "Under Oath."

Secondly, precedent doesn't matter because there has never been a time on tape, you know ON THE RECORD, where the Mayor having a detail has been the law of the land for Metro like Barry is claiming.

Its very likely that the mayor asked Metro to form a DPU for security. However in the manner than Barry says its legally required, it opens up a whole can of worms in terms of oversight for the Mayor's office and Metro itself.

If she would have said "it is precedent", that's fine. But the fact she said On the Record that Metro requires her to have one is completely sketchy.


Also, she knowingly had a secret affair with a subordinate. Unless there is documentation proving otherwise, there is no reason to assume that any OT pay over Forest average was legitimate.

Once again, she has to prove everything to be legit.
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Did she raise her right hand and say "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God" in a courtroom or deposition? Nope. So it doesn't mean a thing. Politicians lie as fish swim in water. Unless they are under oath, it means nothing.

Her odds of getting away with this scot free are really good. Mostly because she is a woman who had an affair with a male subordinate, rather than the other way around.
 
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The residents of Nashville must be feeling really proud of their mayor.

How in the heck can she possibly survive this sordid scandal?
 
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