Memphis Under Investigation

#51
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hmanvolfan said:
Are you still whining about Cal being gone? It's pretty easy to get a new username. I bet if you asked Freak would let you keep your post count.
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Hey f--kstick, where am I whining about Cal being gone? Been discussing the NCAA letter and "so called" allegations of which Cal is not and will not be implicated.

If Memphis had a decent AD, he would have leaked this letter at the right time to keep Cal. It's not Cal's fault that RC Johnson is as big a douche as you are. He simply played him.
 
#52
#52
CALISKING said:
Hey f--kstick, where am I whining about Cal being gone? Been discussing the NCAA letter and "so called" allegations of which Cal is not and will not be implicated.

If Memphis had a decent AD, he would have leaked this letter at the right time to keep Cal. It's not Cal's fault that RC Johnson is as big a douche as you are. He simply played him.
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Such language. Don't you know we have kids and future gas pumpers from south carolina reading this board.
 
#54
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CALISKING said:
Hey f--kstick, where am I whining about Cal being gone? Been discussing the NCAA letter and "so called" allegations of which Cal is not and will not be implicated.

If Memphis had a decent AD, he would have leaked this letter at the right time to keep Cal. It's not Cal's fault that RC Johnson is as big a douche as you are. He simply played him.
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Crew said:
Such language. Don't you know we have kids and future gas pumpers from south carolina reading this board.
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No. He's just an ignorant Tiger fan who's a big cry baby since he's watching his only claim to a life go down the tubes. By the way crybaby, you can :biteme:
 
#55
#55
hmanvolfan said:
No. He's just an ignorant Tiger fan who's a big cry baby since he's watching his only claim to a life go down the tubes. By the way crybaby, you can :biteme:
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Not my only claim to life. And, it is not going down the tubes. Just a minor setback. Coaches have come and gone at Memphis, yet the Tigers have still enjoyed considerable success. If you take away Cal's 9 years, Memphis still has more FF, E8, and S16 than UT. Don't think the Tigers are going anywhere anytime soon.
 
#56
#56
All those appearances and nothing to show for the effort. Then again.....At least you guys got some really nice t-shirts out of it.
 
#59
#59
CALISKING said:
My Final Four T-shirts > Your SEC Champs T-shirts
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.....Not if they decide your latest final four appearance never happened. Matter of fact, you should probably be relieved the tiggers choked the way they did.

Imagine having a national title win removed from the records. :sick:
 
#60
#60
Crew said:
.....Not if they decide your latest final four appearance never happened. Matter of fact, you should probably be relieved the tiggers choked the way they did.

Imagine having a national title win removed from the records. :sick:
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Just because there may be an asterick in a record book doesn't mean it didn't happen. Same thing will happen to Tigers as happened to the KU team that unknowingly used an ineligible player in the same game. Nothing. This is a blunder on the NCAA Clearinghouse, not the U of M.
 
#61
#61
Am I missing something?
How is it a blunder by the Clearinghouse not to spot a fixed SAT score?
 
#62
#62
This is not public info and may never become public, but another one of Cal's recruits is dealing with this very issue today. Except in this case, the NCAA clearinghouse did flag the score based on a unreasonable jump. To date, the issue has not been resolved, but they are working in it.
 
#63
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ukvols said:
Am I missing something?
How is it a blunder by the Clearinghouse not to spot a fixed SAT score?
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Because they are the final authority on whether a kid is deemed eligible to play at any university.

Universities give the transcripts and tests scores that the high school and testing agencies send them on the kids' behalf. These are sent to the Clearinghouse for final approval.

The problem with this case is that Memphis will possibly be punished for the misdeeds of Rose on a test he took prior to his signing a LOI. If he had signed with Illinois, it would be the Illini, not Memphis, that would be deemed "at fault". Either way, it's ridiculous to blame the school.

Just like it's ridiculous to blame and punish Kansas for using a player in the 2008 NC game that had an Algebra grade changed at his high school prior to committing to KU. An F in Algebra gets you into zero Universities as it is a core requirement. KU had no knowledge that Arthur's F was changed to a passing grade to keep him eligible for the HS season.
 
#64
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CALISKING said:
Because they are the final authority on whether a kid is deemed eligible to play at any university.

Universities give the transcripts and tests scores that the high school and testing agencies send them on the kids' behalf. These are sent to the Clearinghouse for final approval.

The problem with this case is that Memphis will possibly be punished for the misdeeds of Rose on a test he took prior to his signing a LOI. If he had signed with Illinois, it would be the Illini, not Memphis, that would be deemed "at fault". Either way, it's ridiculous to blame the school.

Just like it's ridiculous to blame and punish Kansas for using a player in the 2008 NC game that had an Algebra grade changed at his high school prior to committing to KU. An F in Algebra gets you into zero Universities as it is a core requirement. KU had no knowledge that Arthur's F was changed to a passing grade to keep him eligible for the HS season.
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In fairness to Darrell Arthur, it's never been proven to any reasonable degree of certainty that his grade was changed.
 
#65
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CALISKING said:
Because they are the final authority on whether a kid is deemed eligible to play at any university.
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My point is that if the SAT score did not jump high enough to get flagged, then why is it the NCAA's blunder? I don't see how the Clearinghouse can be expected to catch every cheater.

Rose's pinch hitter managed to give the NCAA the slip.
 
#66
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ukvols said:
My point is that if the SAT score did not jump high enough to get flagged, then why is it the NCAA's blunder? I don't see how the Clearinghouse can be expected to catch every cheater.

Rose's pinch hitter managed to give the NCAA the slip.
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Wall's didn't.
 
#67
#67
ukvols said:
My point is that if the SAT score did not jump high enough to get flagged, then why is it the NCAA's blunder? I don't see how the Clearinghouse can be expected to catch every cheater.

Rose's pinch hitter managed to give the NCAA the slip.
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Nor should a University who is taking information from a national test source and the kid's high school.
 
#69
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UT IE 95 said:
Like taking Robert Dozier for instance...
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Robert Dozier graduated this past Spring from Memphis. He was cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse to be eligible and has made the most of his opportunity.

Before you start making comments about his academics and trivializing a degree from Memphis, ask yourself how many of the current Vols are true "student" athletes. HOw many 4 year Vols have graduated under BP?
 
#70
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UT IE 95 said:
Like taking Robert Dozier for instance...
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We, as fans of a school that recruited, signed, and admitted a guy Jim Calhoun, Tim Floyd, and Kelvin Sampson all took a pass on because his transcript was essentially written in crayon, don't really want to get into the wisdom of admissions decisions.
 
#71
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hatvol96 said:
We, as fans of a school that recruited, signed, and admitted a guy Jim Calhoun, Tim Floyd, and Kelvin Sampson all took a pass on because his transcript was essentially written in crayon, don't really want to get into the wisdom of admissions decisions.
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:whistling:
 
#72
#72
Fans of big time athletic programs calling for the 'AA to crack down on other people are like drug dealers rooting for the DEA to bust the guy across town. It's funny when someone else is getting roasted. It's not nearly as amusing when you're the one in the crosshairs.
 
#74
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ukvols said:
FWIW, I don't recall UT ever being placed on probation in any sport.
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John Calipari has a specific 'AA finding that he was not involved in any wrongdoing regarding the Marcus Camby affair. If the fact that the Car 54 Where Are You? crowd from Indy can't pin something of note on you indicates compliance, there are a whole lot of clean programs in the country.
 
#75
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CALISKING said:
Robert Dozier graduated this past Spring from Memphis. He was cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse to be eligible and has made the most of his opportunity.

Before you start making comments about his academics and trivializing a degree from Memphis, ask yourself how many of the current Vols are true "student" athletes. HOw many 4 year Vols have graduated under BP?
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None of that changes the fact that he had some hokey pokey going on with his admission test scores.
 
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