Memphis Under Investigation

#76
#76
hatvol96 said:
We, as fans of a school that recruited, signed, and admitted a guy Jim Calhoun, Tim Floyd, and Kelvin Sampson all took a pass on because his transcript was essentially written in crayon, don't really want to get into the wisdom of admissions decisions.
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And Ramar wasn't a very good player either.
 
#77
#77
UT IE 95 said:
None of that changes the fact that he had some hokey pokey going on with his admission test scores.
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Yeah, because the same athletic department that thought hiring Jim Harrick was a good idea said so. Your history on commenting about 'AA matters isn't really good. Remind me of how may wins Oklahoma ended up getting stripped of over the Rhett Bomar/JD Quinn matter.
 
#79
#79
UT IE 95 said:
None of that changes the fact that he had some hokey pokey going on with his admission test scores.
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This is a witch hunt because the NCAA, BCS schools, and media can't stand for a non-BCS school to "crash the party".

Do you realize that Georgia is currently under investigation for travel benefits for a recruits mother and sister? The NCAA deemed it a 2ndary violation. How is one incident involving a BCS school deemed 2ndary and gets no run on ESPN, yet the same incident by Memphis is deemed "major" and is running across the scroller nonstop?
 
#80
#80
CALISKING said:
This is a witch hunt because the NCAA, BCS schools, and media can't stand for a non-BCS school to "crash the party".

Do you realize that Georgia is currently under investigation for travel benefits for a recruits mother and sister? The NCAA deemed it a 2ndary violation. How is one incident involving a BCS school deemed 2ndary and gets no run on ESPN, yet the same incident by Memphis is deemed "major" and is running across the scroller nonstop?
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Your first sentence is the biggest joke of a reason I have heard around this city (and I have heard it a few times).

As for Georgia, they didn't get to the national championship game and have the #1 draft pick involved.

You are pulling through for your king, "everyone is out for us, us against the world!!"
 
#81
#81
Gcrop said:
Your first sentence is the biggest joke of a reason I have heard around this city (and I have heard it a few times).

As for Georgia, they didn't get to the national championship game and have the #1 draft pick involved.

You are pulling through for your king, "everyone is out for us, us against the world!!"
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So you are denying that a double standard exists when a BCS or traditional school may or may not commit an infraction and when a non-BCS or non-traditional school is accused/commits? Don't kid yourself.

Fact: 1992: Alabama used an ineligible player in the SEC Championship game and National Championship game. Remember Antonio Langham and his game winning TD against the Gators? Remember how he received benefits from an agent? Last time I checked, this is the biggest NO-NO on the books. Was that SEC and NCAA title "vacated?"

USC Circa 2005-current. Anything come out of Reggie Bush's family receiving housing and hundreds of thousands of dollars while he played? Didn't think so. Any Heisman trophys, seasons records, or NC vacated there?

Then look at what NCAA did to Memphis in 1980s, UNLV in 1990s, Umass in 1990s, Ole MIss in 1990s for similar or less "infractions."
 
#82
#82
CALISKING said:
So you are denying that a double standard exists when a BCS or traditional school may or may not commit an infraction and when a non-BCS or non-traditional school is accused/commits? Don't kid yourself.

Fact: 1992: Alabama used an ineligible player in the SEC Championship game and National Championship game. Remember Antonio Langham and his game winning TD against the Gators? Remember how he received benefits from an agent? Last time I checked, this is the biggest NO-NO on the books. Was that SEC and NCAA title "vacated?"

USC Circa 2005-current. Anything come out of Reggie Bush's family receiving housing and hundreds of thousands of dollars while he played? Didn't think so. Any Heisman trophys, seasons records, or NC vacated there?

Then look at what NCAA did to Memphis in 1980s, UNLV in 1990s, Umass in 1990s, Ole MIss in 1990s for similar or less "infractions."
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I am sure double standards happen but do I think the NCAA went after Memphis becasue they got "too big"? No.

I do think there were two shooters though. :unsure:
 
#83
#83
CALISKING said:
So you are denying that a double standard exists when a BCS or traditional school may or may not commit an infraction and when a non-BCS or non-traditional school is accused/commits? Don't kid yourself.

Fact: 1992: Alabama used an ineligible player in the SEC Championship game and National Championship game. Remember Antonio Langham and his game winning TD against the Gators? Remember how he received benefits from an agent? Last time I checked, this is the biggest NO-NO on the books. Was that SEC and NCAA title "vacated?"

USC Circa 2005-current. Anything come out of Reggie Bush's family receiving housing and hundreds of thousands of dollars while he played? Didn't think so. Any Heisman trophys, seasons records, or NC vacated there?

Then look at what NCAA did to Memphis in 1980s, UNLV in 1990s, Umass in 1990s, Ole MIss in 1990s for similar or less "infractions."
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Since the NCAA doesn't officially recognize a NCAA FBS Champion and back then only polling systems were used... they have no authority to vacate that championship.
 
#84
#84
CALISKING said:
So you are denying that a double standard exists when a BCS or traditional school may or may not commit an infraction and when a non-BCS or non-traditional school is accused/commits? Don't kid yourself.

Fact: 1992: Alabama used an ineligible player in the SEC Championship game and National Championship game. Remember Antonio Langham and his game winning TD against the Gators? Remember how he received benefits from an agent? Last time I checked, this is the biggest NO-NO on the books. Was that SEC and NCAA title "vacated?"

USC Circa 2005-current. Anything come out of Reggie Bush's family receiving housing and hundreds of thousands of dollars while he played? Didn't think so. Any Heisman trophys, seasons records, or NC vacated there?

Then look at what NCAA did to Memphis in 1980s, UNLV in 1990s, Umass in 1990s, Ole MIss in 1990s for similar or less "infractions."
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Someone's omitted some major universities being penalized, such as.............

1987 SMU football - Death penalty. Killed off the prestige of SMU's storied football program

1980's? Kentucky basketball - Weren't there major sanctions placed on the program before they hired Pitino? I seem to remember reading something like that. If there wasn't, sorry for not knowing.

1993 Michigan Basketball - Did the NCAA really think they were going to omit the Fab Five from the memories of millions of CBB fans?

1996 - They disbanded a whole conference it was so dirty, relegating TCU, SMU, and Rice from playing BCS(then, Bowl Alliance/Coalition) conference football.

There are obviously many more, but those are the one's off of the top of my head.
 
#85
#85
Oh, I just remembered some of these.............

Bobby Bowden is in great jeopardy of losing his all-time win record, because of sanctions about to be levied on the FSU program......

In 1952, Kentucky placed themselves on their own death penalty because of numerous allegations of players being paid under the table.
 
#87
#87
nickknx865 said:
1996 - They disbanded a whole conference it was so dirty, relegating TCU, SMU, and Rice from playing BCS(then, Bowl Alliance/Coalition) conference football.
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:blink:

The Southwest Conference?
The SEC lured away Arkansas, and the Big Eight lured away Texas, Tx Tech, Tx A&M, and Baylor - thus leaving the SWC with only TCU, SMU, Rice, and Houston. So, the SWC disbanded.
 
#88
#88
I find it humorous that you are crying to us about violations and their play on ESPN.
 
#90
#90
nickknx865 said:
Oh, I just remembered some of these.............

Bobby Bowden is in great jeopardy of losing his all-time win record, because of sanctions about to be levied on the FSU program......

In 1952, Kentucky placed themselves on their own death penalty because of numerous allegations of players being paid under the table.
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I wasn't alive in 1952, but, from what I've read, the NCAA handed KY that death penalty.

I seriuously doubt any program, especially that one, would self-impose the death penalty.
 
#91
#91
nickknx865 said:
Someone's omitted some major universities being penalized, such as.............

1987 SMU football - Death penalty. Killed off the prestige of SMU's storied football program

1980's? Kentucky basketball - Weren't there major sanctions placed on the program before they hired Pitino? I seem to remember reading something like that. If there wasn't, sorry for not knowing.

1993 Michigan Basketball - Did the NCAA really think they were going to omit the Fab Five from the memories of millions of CBB fans?

1996 - They disbanded a whole conference it was so dirty, relegating TCU, SMU, and Rice from playing BCS(then, Bowl Alliance/Coalition) conference football.

There are obviously many more, but those are the one's off of the top of my head.
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SMU was never, ever one of the elite members of the modern college football club.
 
#93
#93
ukvols said:
I wasn't alive in 1952, but, from what I've read, the NCAA handed KY that death penalty.

I seriuously doubt any program, especially that one, would self-impose the death penalty.
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I think you're correct

Wikipedia said:
On October 20, 1951—in the midst of one of the most serious point shaving scandals in college basketball history—former Kentucky basketball players Alex Groza, Ralph Beard and Dale Barnstable were arrested for taking money from gamblers to shave points during the 1948-49 season. Incidentally, the Wildcats won their second straight national title in that season. In addition, senior center Bill Spivey was charged with perjury for refusing to testify against his teammates.

Groza, Beard and Barnstable pleaded guilty to taking $1,500 in bribes in return for shaving points in a 1949 National Invitation Tournament game against Loyola-Chicago. The Wildcats were favored by 10 points going into that game, but lost 67-56. At that time, teams were allowed to participate in both the NCAA and NIT tournaments. Kentucky responded by barring Spivey from playing in the 1952-53 season. It was to no avail, as the Southeastern Conference barred Kentucky from conference play that season.

Shortly thereafter, an NCAA investigation turned up circumstantial evidence that suggested that players were being paid to play. As a result, following immense pressure from other institutions, some of which even threatened to secede from the the NCAA altogether, the NCAA placed Kentucky's entire athletic program on probation for the 1952-53 school year and barred all of the school's teams from postseason play. Also, NCAA executive director Walter Byers pressured the NCAA's basketball-playing members into not scheduling Kentucky—effectively canceling the Wildcats' season.[1] The Wildcats were reduced to using brand-new Memorial Coliseum for intrasquad games.
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#94
#94
Wow, this has turned into another opportunity to point out how tainted most of KY's NCAA titles are. :yes:
 
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