Michael Dyer - now Louisville bound (merged)

What's your opinion of the possibility that Dyer is a Vol?

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#1,002
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tennesseefan31 said:
Take. Take. Take.

With our OL, theres a chance he runs for 1500 yards IMO. Maybe more. Not to mention if it works it's a PR dream. Gave the kid one last chance and he turns his life around. If it fails, oh well, the blame will fall on him not UT.
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With the public looking at thugs in football, Butch could turn around Dyer and get any parent on board.
 
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tennesseefan31 said:
Take. Take. Take.

With our OL, theres a chance he runs for 1500 yards IMO. Maybe more. Not to mention if it works it's a PR dream. Gave the kid one last chance and he turns his life around. If it fails, oh well, the blame will fall on him not UT.
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PR Dream? You have got to be kidding me. The second it was announced Dyer was coming to UT the media would rake Tennessee over the coals. No way would the very slight chance that he is able to stay out of handcuffs worth the trash that it would bring in the media the day he became a Vol.
 
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Aesius said:
Pass. I'm not convinced he would be that much better than Neal. Not worth the risk to possibly gain an extra 200 yds rushing on the season.

Plus, as the article above mentions, he was so effective for Auburn because the defenders all had their eyes on Cam. Not the same situation at UT.
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An extra 200 yards rushing in a season can make a big difference in the win-loss column, man. Running the ball controls the game even in this age of passing.

But in the end, I don't believe Dyer is the right fit here.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
Not to defend Dyer but the reason he bought that gun was for personal protection after seeing his two friends (current and former AU players) gunned down at that party off AU's campus. Sometimes it takes screwing up more than once for some people to finally get it right. I know he has been mentored well at Arkansas Baptist and one can only hope he uses his last chance to his full advantage.
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Were all the illegal drugs to cope with the situation as well? Just about every person sitting in prison can give you a sad story about why they did what they did. He was busted for drugs and guns at AU. He was busted for drugs and guns at Arkansas State. Others used HIS gun to commit other crimes. Just how many chances does a kid get? In some states 3rd time gets you life, not a full ride to Tennessee.
 
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He will probably play one year somewhere and go pro without graduating. Not sure we can risk a sure hit to our APR at this point regardless of whether we think he is good.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Were all the illegal drugs to cope with the situation as well? Just about every person sitting in prison can give you a sad story about why they did what they did. He was busted for drugs and guns at AU. He was busted for drugs and guns at Arkansas State. Others used HIS gun to commit other crimes. Just how many chances does a kid get? In some states 3rd time gets you life, not a full ride to Tennessee.
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All I can say is I got into similar trouble at his age (even younger) and finally got my life straightened out around 21 yrs. old thru a mentor. I now have my post grad degree, served as both enlisted and as an officer in the military and currently have a very sucessful career. People can and do change. I listened to a show on Sirius with his mentor at AB who is one of Coach Houston Nutt's old assistants. This man is the epitomy of character, accountability, and molding of young men. I was very impressed with him and his program.
 
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2 Questions: Is he interested in visiting/coming to UT? Has our coaching staff contacted him or is all this chatter about Dyer just hypothetical? Thanks.
 
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While he has great talent and could be an asset in our backfield this year, we already have one running back in the dog house

We are on thin ice with our APR and cannot afford the risk there despite any possible rewards. Next year we have 2 quality backs coming in that want to be here. So lets roll with what we got rather than rock the boat
 
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I understand as to why not. But being a former inner city youth director/pastor and working primarily with "endangered" youth, I'm a fan of second chances. Not sure how'd it work out on the field but this kid deserves the same opportunity we've all received to change his life. If not UT, I pray someone gives him an opportunity to prove himself.
 
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revjayp said:
I understand as to why not. But being a former inner city youth director/pastor and working primarily with "endangered" youth, I'm a fan of second chances. Not sure how'd it work out on the field but this kid deserves the same opportunity we've all received to change his life. If not UT, I pray someone gives him an opportunity to prove himself.
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Pretty sure this kid has already had a 2nd chance. He could be on his 12th chance for all we know. If you go looking for problems, you will usually find them.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Pretty sure this kid has already had a 2nd chance. He could be on his 12th chance for all we know. If you go looking for problems, you will usually find them.
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You may be right. However, I tend to look at the "2nd chance" as the moment he was given accountability and mentorship and pointed in the right direction. Everyone will respond differently. Anyway...
 
#1,022
#1,022
TAKE
I think a little Butch slapping is all this kid needs. Him, Lane and Neal would be a nice 1, 2, 3 punch. With our unproven qb's and wr's we may need 3-4 backs. Would especially help in clock control games like Oregon
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Were all the illegal drugs to cope with the situation as well? Just about every person sitting in prison can give you a sad story about why they did what they did. He was busted for drugs and guns at AU. He was busted for drugs and guns at Arkansas State. Others used HIS gun to commit other crimes. Just how many chances does a kid get? In some states 3rd time gets you life, not a full ride to Tennessee.
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LV...I like most of your posts but I don't agree with your position on this kid. While some kids don't make stupid decisions in their late teens/early 20's., many do....and many recover to become educated, productive citizens. Aside from myself, Judge Greg Mathis is a perfect example of someone that made stupid decisions as a young man and made the decision to make something out of himself. "All those drugs" you exaggerate are in fact pot and spice of which you can buy in any convenience store. A TE, I think his name was Evans, estimated 70% of AU players smoked spice. That doesnt justify the use, it illustrates the rampant use and he was the one that got caught. The major fact nobody is seeing is he grew up in a bad part of Little Rock and had never been in trouble until AU. I dont believe in throw away kids. Would you punt your own child if he screwed up more than once? Probably not.

This kid is a proven top SEC caliber RB. AU failed to provide the structure, accountability, and discipline to develop this young man and transition him into being a responsible, productive citizen. With 2 players dead, 4 in prison for felony burglary and the demise of a top SEC RB...it's not hard to see a glaring lack of player development and institutional control at AU.
 
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