Michael Sisak Reporting Joe Pa is Near Death

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95 Vol Alum said:
The guy is 85 and being treated for lung cancer. That might be playing a part.
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It's definitely playing a part, but still. I don't think it's a coincidence that the guy's on his death bed 2 months after his 60+ year coaching career ended.
 
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orangepridenation said:
It's definitely playing a part, but still. I don't think it's a coincidence that the guy's on his death bed 2 months after his 60+ year coaching career ended.
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if lung cancer wasn't usually such a deadly variant of the disease, i might agree a bit


it's the most common cause of cancer-related deaths among men and women @ near 1.3 mil a year and only about 14% or so survive 5years after their initial diagnosis (don't know how aggressive it is compared to say pancreatic cancer but it is extremely difficult to treat)


that combined with his age...unfortunately chances didn't look terribly great from the beginning
 
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also we perhaps should make a merger

we have 3 threads on this among 3 different forum sections
 
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DocVol said:
Makes you wonder what would've happened had he not been fired earlier? I really think he wanted to keep coaching up until he ultimately died.

It's sad but this whole process has probably sped this up for him.
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Yeah I wouldn't doubt that all the drama and him being fired had a lot to do with his condition...Really sad
 
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TrueOrange said:
it's also rife with contradictions...especially with regards to people Dante personally liked (Virgil is a great example) and disliked
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Oh I agree. I still enjoy the read greatly, and it did what it was supposed to do as well (piss off masses and scare others), however one thing I always thought seemed quite appropriate for it was the fact that he wrote certain sins getting certain punishments. I like to think it is kind of like that, only worse than he described.
 
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TrueOrange said:
if lung cancer wasn't usually such a deadly variant of the disease, i might agree a bit


it's the most common cause of cancer-related deaths among men and women @ near 1.3 mil a year and only about 14% or so survive 5years after their initial diagnosis (don't know how aggressive it is compared to say pancreatic cancer but it is extremely difficult to treat)


that combined with his age...unfortunately chances didn't look terribly great from the beginning
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My father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in May. As they told him (and as I read everywhere I could find online and in medical journals) it is the most aggressive and dangerous by far. it has a 5 year life less than 4.4% throughout all stages. Lung cancer I want to think is third behind Leukemia in terms of mortality percentage, but part of that is because there is a large broad spectrum of lung cancers.
 
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Friend at the hospital texted me 30 min ago. It's bad, may happen tomorrow or Monday. Sad story...
 
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Daloth said:
My father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in May. As they told him (and as I read everywhere I could find online and in medical journals) it is the most aggressive and dangerous by far. it has a 5 year life less than 4.4% throughout all stages. Lung cancer I want to think is third behind Leukemia in terms of mortality percentage, but part of that is because there is a large broad spectrum of lung cancers.
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Ah, thanks for the info
 
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Daloth said:
My father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in May. As they told him (and as I read everywhere I could find online and in medical journals) it is the most aggressive and dangerous by far. it has a 5 year life less than 4.4% throughout all stages. Lung cancer I want to think is third behind Leukemia in terms of mortality percentage, but part of that is because there is a large broad spectrum of lung cancers.
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I'm sorry to read this. Pancreatic AC is the toughie. It's what took out Tom Cronan (Joan's husband) and Patrick Swayze.

They beat the odds in that they lived a lot longer than expected, but the prognosis is still pretty rough.

I hope that your dad has a good relationship with his docs, and that things go well. Prayers lifted up for him and for your family.
 
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#68
Sad to hear. Wish he would've been able to explain his side of the story. What an awful way to go out
 
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Weezer said:
What happens to his soul is between him and God, but he deserves a slow, extremely painful death for what he did.
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What sin did he committ? And exactly what did he do? Not call the police about something he didn't see? GTFO.
 
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@BFeldmanCBS: RT @AP_Top25: Paterno family spokseman Dan McGinn: reports of former Penn State coach Joe Paterno's death are "not true."
 
#73
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utvols88 said:
What sin did he committ? And exactly what did he do? Not call the police about something he didn't see? GTFO.
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There are different kinds of sins. There's sinful acts that you commit directly, and there are times when you're aware of something wrong being done to someone else, and you do nothing, allowing it to continue. These are also sins. If you had the chance to keep someone from being murdered, but you did nothing, isn't that sinful behavior?

That being said, the man is dead, and despite what he might have done or not done, we can show some respect for the dead.

--the same way that we might we for respect to be shown to us or to loved ones when our times come.


eta: OK, so maybe he's not dead. Still, the same principle applies. De mortuis nil nisi bonum --speak only good of the dead.
 
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VolNExile said:
There are different kinds of sins. There's sinful acts that you commit directly, and there are times when you're aware of something wrong being done to someone else, and you do nothing, allowing it to continue. These are also sins. If you had the chance to keep someone from being murdered, but you did nothing, isn't that sinful behavior?

That being said, the man is dead, and despite what he might have done or not done, we can show some respect for the dead.

--the same way that we might we for respect to be shown to us or to loved ones when our times come.


eta: OK, so maybe he's not dead. Still, the same principle applies. De mortuis nil nisi bonum --speak only good of the dead.
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I think Joe Pa has been an incredible ambassador to not only football but life in general. There are too many people positively affected by him and I do not believe someone else's terrible acts can reflect him as an individual. I will pray for Joe Pa and his family.
 
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