Michelle's $375,000 vacation courtesy of the American Taxpayer

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CSpindizzy said:
Since he gave us the prototype of Obamacare and it is failing miserably in MA right now, I don't think he's a sound choice. It might not play quite as well as it would have in '08 but the Dems can easily pin him down as the guy who made his millions giving people the pink slip. And this Extreme Makeover Conservative Edition is really horrible. If people have their panties in a wad over Haslam giving to a Dem, they'll love Mitt's campaign ad for the fringe nut lefty mayor in Utah a few years back.

Mitt carries entirely too much baggage, has no conservative credentials, and a few other things hold a serious liability in an economic downturn.
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do you think Chris Christie or Bob McDonald could be a player in either 2012 or 2016? I really like what I'm hearing from Christie and his candidacy would drive the union wackos crazy.

I was very impressed by McDonald's response to the State of the Union (I think that was the speech), but haven't heard much more about him.

There's also Jan Brewer, but the left would do everything it could to tear the country apart on racial lines if she were a candidate. She's also not a very dynamic public speaker.
 
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Heebs said:
I wish the Republicans had had a better candidate. It was woefully clear that Obama wasn't qualified and the GOP screwed up a good shot to keep him out. Had Obama been white I can't see him being elected. Now we are paying for putting image in front of substance.
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not a big an off romney bowing out before the R nomination was locked up by mccain ... letting mccain have it because it was his turn is not a very good way to win elections ...
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Do you think a certain endorsement of a failed candidate in NY would haunt him? And get Newt talking policy details and he will quickly lose his audience. As a professor he can get you lost in the weeds.
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I think there's plenty in Newt's background that could haunt him, which is true for many politicians. I'm not necessarily saying that he will run for POTUS, as that will be determined by how he is viewed by the public in the next year or so. However, I believe he will play a role in the party and also think he is one of the most strategic and intelligent politicians of either party.

My thoughts on Newt (vs the others that have been mentioned) is that the best way to counter Obama (a smooth talking, very elegant speaker, adept at reading teleprompters, etc.) is to counter him with someone who also speaks well, but can speak with depth and details (which you mention as a negative) without a teleprompter in front of him. To win you have to highlight and attack the opponents weakness. McCain could do neither, and actually made Obama look even more polished and more intelligent. I think someone like Newt would embarrass our current POTUS with "facts and details" and make him very uncomfortable during debates.
 
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Heebs said:
I wish the Republicans had had a better candidate. It was woefully clear that Obama wasn't qualified and the GOP screwed up a good shot to keep him out. Had Obama been white I can't see him being elected. Now we are paying for putting image in front of substance.
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If Ron Paul would have been elected, there would be no money going to Spain from the US taxpayer...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If Ron Paul would have been elected, there would be no money going to Spain from the US taxpayer...
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Not one of you checked to see if your facts were straight. Mrs. Obama is not travelling on the tax payers dime:

"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that the Obamas will pay for their own personal expenses, as will their friends who are traveling with them. However, the most costly part of the trip is the full-time Secret Service and entourage, which is all covered by taxpayer money."
 
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volholio said:
Not one of you checked to see if your facts were straight. Mrs. Obama is not travelling on the tax payers dime:

"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that the Obamas will pay for their own personal expenses, as will their friends who are traveling with them. However, the most costly part of the trip is the full-time Secret Service and entourage, which is all covered by taxpayer money."
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Not sure what your point is supposed to be. They also are not covering the cost of the air travel(which cost $11,351 hourly to operate the plane). Other expenses born by U.S. taxpayer for Mrs. Obama's holiday include "about $95,000 in hotel costs for an estimated 70 security personnel -- Secret Service and military -- who get a $273-a-day government per diem, plus costs for the dozen or so cars in her motorcade.
 
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volholio said:
Not one of you checked to see if your facts were straight. Mrs. Obama is not travelling on the tax payers dime:

"White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that the Obamas will pay for their own personal expenses, as will their friends who are traveling with them. However, the most costly part of the trip is the full-time Secret Service and entourage, which is all covered by taxpayer money."
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Wouldn't the cost of the entire trip be more than the office of POTUS pay for one year? Where did they get that type of money to pay for that trip? What they paid for out of their pockets was souvenirs!
 
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This is similar to the outrage expressed by concervatives on this board when George Bush took 77 trips to his ranch -- at $250,000 a pop, when he was POTUS. That's almost $20 million for Bush vacatons, not to mention all the solo vacations Barbara took, also at taxpayer expense.

I am grateful for the consistency shown by all of you on that as you equally derided the Republican for doing the same thing.

Oh.

Wait.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is similar to the outrage expressed by concervatives on this board when George Bush took 77 trips to his ranch -- at $250,000 a pop, when he was POTUS. That's almost $20 million for Bush vacatons, not to mention all the solo vacations Barbara took, also at taxpayer expense.

I am grateful for the consistency shown by all of you on that as you equally derided the Republican for doing the same thing.

Oh.

Wait.
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You just can't let Bush go can you? Bush is no longer POTUS. We are talking about this regime and how much they vacation and who gets stuck with the bill. This is not about Bush.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is similar to the outrage expressed by concervatives on this board when George Bush took 77 trips to his ranch -- at $250,000 a pop, when he was POTUS. That's almost $20 million for Bush vacatons, not to mention all the solo vacations Barbara took, also at taxpayer expense.

I am grateful for the consistency shown by all of you on that as you equally derided the Republican for doing the same thing.

Oh.

Wait.
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Atleast Bush choose to spend his vacation money in the US!
 
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volfanjustin said:
You just can't let Bush go can you? Bush is no longer POTUS. We are talking about this regime and how much they vacation and who gets stuck with the bill. This is not about Bush.
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It is when the same people who supported him prove themselves (once again) to be hypocrites of the highest order.


Oldvol75 said:
Atleast Bush choose to spend his vacation money in the US!
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Valid point.
 
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lawgator1 said:
It is when the same people who supported him prove themselves (once again) to be hypocrites of the highest order.




Valid point.
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I can guarantee you I was really angry at Bush for his spending, he spent like your side likes to.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is similar to the outrage expressed by concervatives on this board when George Bush took 77 trips to his ranch -- at $250,000 a pop, when he was POTUS. That's almost $20 million for Bush vacatons, not to mention all the solo vacations Barbara took, also at taxpayer expense.

I am grateful for the consistency shown by all of you on that as you equally derided the Republican for doing the same thing.

Oh.

Wait.
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And it's also similar to the outcry leftists have had regarding the Obama vacations. It's certainly been equal to the criticism Bush experience during his vacations.

I'm grateful for the consistency you show in identifying hypocrisy.

Oh.

Wait.
 
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kptvol said:
And it's also similar to the outcry leftists have had regarding the Obama vacations. It's certainly been equal to the criticism Bush experience during his vacations.

I'm grateful for the consistency you show in identifying hypocrisy.

Oh.

Wait.
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Michelle Obama (and by extension her husband) is getting a ton of criticism over this. I personally saw that ABC, CBS, all ran stories criticizing her and I imagine there were evne more I didn't personally see.

But FOX and the right wing radio hate machine are on this 24/7. Which they never did with Buish trips, and in fact I recall many conservative commentators on FOX defending Bush's trips as no big deal, even though they cost about the same as this one does, and he took 76 more fo them thaan her.

Face it. The right wing hate machine look like total idiots on this.

Again.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Michelle Obama (and by extension her husband) is getting a ton of criticism over this. I personally saw that ABC, CBS, all ran stories criticizing her and I imagine there were evne more I didn't personally see.

But FOX and the right wing radio hate machine are on this 24/7. Which they never did with Buish trips, and in fact I recall many conservative commentators on FOX defending Bush's trips as no big deal, even though they cost about the same as this one does, and he took 76 more fo them thaan her.

Face it. The right wing hate machine look like total idiots on this.

Again.
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when have the right-wing or left-wing hate machines not looked stupid? They give everyone on both sides of the fence a bad name.
 
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golfballs03 said:
I would like to see how much past Presidents have spent on personal vacations payed for with tax dollars
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The spending is outrageous. However, as far as vacations taken, George W Bush set the record if I recall correctly.
 
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funny, obama calls for heads of companies when execs get fringe benefits. Yet he takes every fringe liberty he can. With everything going on right now, do the obamas deserve a vacation right now? or vacations i should say?

Spending that much money for a "girls weekend" is absurd.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Michelle Obama (and by extension her husband) is getting a ton of criticism over this. I personally saw that ABC, CBS, all ran stories criticizing her and I imagine there were evne more I didn't personally see.

But FOX and the right wing radio hate machine are on this 24/7. Which they never did with Buish trips, and in fact I recall many conservative commentators on FOX defending Bush's trips as no big deal, even though they cost about the same as this one does, and he took 76 more fo them thaan her.

Face it. The right wing hate machine look like total idiots on this.

Again.
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You base this on?
 
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Actually most of Bush's vacations were to Camp David or his ranch. If anywhere else it may have also been the Bush family retreat in Maine. All of these locations were already set up for security and none cost anywhere the level of Michelle's comforting a friend over a loss of a loved one.

If you want to get down to it, Obama has W beat in the vacations and cost categories. And LG, you can harp all you want and be the Obama apologist but it shows just how pathetic Obama is to 1)pretend like he is the 'common man' who relates to us 2)tell us to go to the Gulf when he himself waits until the 'all clear sign' is sounded to go himself and 3)while people are suffering because of hard times, job loss, home loss, etc. he chooses to go jetsetting with Hollywood and big global names on weekly vacations most people couldn't even dream of. So while you still pine for the W days in criticisms we can really look at just how smart the gifted one really is on making such stupid choices that demean his own image.
 
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