Michigan finally getting what they deserve!

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volfeeva said:
Exactly how I feel, overblown and beat to death. Like we need to give Sports commentators something to talk about. Next, we should investigate teams watching future opponents games on TV. Good grief, you still have to line up and play.
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Coach Prime, is that you?
 
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volfeeva said:
If keeping signs from opponents is that critical, then why allow anyone in the stands or along the sidelines other than immediate team players? And do background checks on fans sitting in the stands? Put a 1 mile no- trespassing zone around the practice field including ban on the Goodyear blimp and satellites .
I just think the role this plays in the outcome of a game does not rise to the level of attention it's getting nor the punishment that is going to cost Hairboughs his job
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Your logic is misfiring, friend.

Flip your analysis on its head: if keeping signs from opponents is NOT critical, as you seem to be saying, why do teams--all teams, every single one of them--spend so much time, $$ and effort keeping it from happening?

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Instead, why don't we all just put a portable road sign on the sidelines and do this:

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Can you explain why we're not all just doing that, if it's not important?

Go Vols!
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Does both.
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Tennessee uses the shields on the road as well. UT sidelines are almost exclusively across from the coaches boxes on the road. Doesn't seem that those would be of very good use if you're trying to hide signals from your opponent.
 
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Boston Vol said:
If you’re referring to the big black shields that Tennessee throws up before every offensive play, I don’t think those are to hide signals. Pretty sure they are used to help the players on the field find the coaches on the sideline who are signaling in the plays.
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That's exactly what they are for, and the three coaches signaling are wearing different colored tops.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Your logic is misfiring, friend.

Flip your analysis on its head: if keeping signs from opponents is NOT critical, as you seem to be saying, why do teams--all teams, every single one of them--spend so much time, $$ and effort keeping it from happening?

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Instead, why don't we all just put a portable road sign on the sidelines and do this:

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Can you explain why we're not all just doing that, if it's not important?

Go Vols!
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My point = you missed, is if signs are that encrypted and ever so important to the point of firing a coach, and all the hairpulling we see today, then why not make it harder to steal them in the first place ? Why are folks off the street allowed in the stands or anywhere near the practice field?
 
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volfeeva said:
My point = you missed, is if signs are that encrypted and ever so important to the point of firing a coach, and all the hairpulling we see today, then why not make it harder to steal them in the first place ? Why are folks off the street allowed in the stands or anywhere near the practice field?
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Because fans drive the sport and pay salaries. Coaches however dressing up and sneaking on opposite teams sidelines with spyware so they can record and decipher plays of upcoming opponents is completely different.
 
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I wonder how many schools have been doing it. We cannot have a sign stealing gap.
 
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volfeeva said:
If keeping signs from opponents is that critical, then why allow anyone in the stands or along the sidelines other than immediate team players? And do background checks on fans sitting in the stands? Put a 1 mile no- trespassing zone around the practice field including ban on the Goodyear blimp and satellites .
I just think the role this plays in the outcome of a game does not rise to the level of attention it's getting nor the punishment that is going to cost Hairboughs his job
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Thats your best response?
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Thats your best response?
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nope, stealing signs is something all teams try to do and everyone knows it. If you ain't stealing signs, you ain't trying. At any given game there are thousands of fans, some of them at the 50 yard line , all with the capabilities of stealing signs. Do we ban all fans from the stands ? All this clutching of pearls over something that cannot be prevented and that everyone tries to do is just silly
 
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volfeeva said:
nope, stealing signs is something all teams try to do and everyone knows it. If you ain't stealing signs, you ain't trying. At any given game there are thousands of fans, some of them at the 50 yard line , all with the capabilities of stealing signs. Do we ban all fans from the stands ? All this clutching of pearls over something that cannot be prevented and that everyone tries to do is just silly
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Your points are totally off the mark. The issue with UM isn't knowing the other teams signs, it's using video recordings to decipher the signs and advance scouting to record those signs.
 
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Trying to figure it out during a live game is one thing. Sending a cøck jockey to advance scout well in advance allows them time to diagnose what is recorded. So when you check at the line they most likely already know your tendencies. Furthermore doing this and potentially using it to alter the CFP is a huge problem for the games integrity. And sorry I do not buy the if you aint cheating you ain't trying bullsh1t. It doesn't strike you odd Harbaugh sucked before they started advance scouting ? He accomplished fk all beforehand. Dude is a cheat and yes it's a big deal
 
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Whats even worse is the coach at opposing teams games disguised as a coach on the sideline. They knew they were cheating. They deserve whatever they get
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Trying to figure it out during a live game is one thing. Sending a cøck jockey to advance scout well in advance allows them time to diagnose what is recorded. So when you check at the line they most likely already know your tendencies. Furthermore doing this and potentially using it to alter the CFP is a huge problem for the games integrity. And sorry I do not buy the if you aint cheating you ain't trying bullsh1t. It doesn't strike you odd Harbaugh sucked before they started advance scouting ? He accomplished fk all beforehand. Dude is a cheat and yes it's a big deal
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It sounds like the conference as a whole was doing this. Harbaugh is just the first one (of many) to be caught. Michigan could be full of it but they are saying they have documentation and proof of other schools in the conference doing this.

Pretty wild how crazier this story gets each week.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
It sounds like the conference as a whole was doing this. Harbaugh is just the first one (of many) to be caught. Michigan could be full of it but they are saying they have documentation and proof of other schools in the conference doing this.

Pretty wild how crazier this story gets each week.
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What do you expect them to say other than pointing fingers ? They had no other defense, the guy was filmed and they have a paper trail.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
It sounds like the conference as a whole was doing this. Harbaugh is just the first one (of many) to be caught. Michigan could be full of it but they are saying they have documentation and proof of other schools in the conference doing this.

Pretty wild how crazier this story gets each week.
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I hope Michigan sings, and all the Big 10 teams get in trouble. It would be hilarious.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
What do you expect them to say other than pointing fingers ? They had no other defense, the guy was filmed and they have a paper trail.
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Right. But if it’s true other schools did it and they can prove it, the whole conference head coaches need to be suspended
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Right. But if it’s true other schools did it and they can prove it, the whole conference head coaches need to be suspended
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Until they do show evidence, which they have only made claims at this point to my knowledge I personally am in a wait and see mode
 
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volfeeva said:
My point = you missed, is if signs are that encrypted and ever so important to the point of firing a coach, and all the hairpulling we see today, then why not make it harder to steal them in the first place ? Why are folks off the street allowed in the stands or anywhere near the practice field?
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Because football is, at root, entertainment. It exists FOR people to watch. Don't be a goof, lol.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Until they do show evidence, which they have only made claims at this point to my knowledge I personally am in a wait and see mode
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Correct. I think the biggest issue is the conference did a typical Friday afternoon news dump with the suspension. No reason to do it that close to the game.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Correct. I think the biggest issue is the conference did a typical Friday afternoon news dump with the suspension. No reason to do it that close to the game.
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Maybe had something to do with the fact he has already been suspended this year and has lied before. Maybe this is them saying enough. Harbaugh is a tool
 
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BigALWiLson said:
Maybe had something to do with the fact he has already been suspended this year and has lied before. Maybe this is them saying enough. Harbaugh is a tool
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That’s fine. But given the process of appealing a suspension, they basically dropped that suspension knowing there was no way a TRO would even be a possibility in 18 hours
 
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