Mid July Class Prediction Thread

#51
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Attrition will not matter once the number gets to 24. As it has been said, absolute max this class will be 24(25 if you count Swafford going on scholarship). Taking 29 is just not an option no matter how you work it.

QB-Jennings, Dormady
RB-Kamara, Reid
WR-Williams, Woods
TE-Oliver
OL-Stewart, Jones, Hall, Richmond
DT-Picou, McKenzie, Tuttle
DE-Butcher, Jackson, Phillips
LB-Cherry, Smith
S-Griffin
CB-Ordway, Bruce
P-Townsend
LS-Lovingood

Obviously Jefferson, Martin, & Sapp would be the next likely "IN" IF the staff does something with a current commitment. I won't make that call right now.
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With the recruits that we're apparently leading for, I wouldn't be surprised if we drop Woods, Lovingood, Stewart, Bruce, and potentially even Dylan Jackson, if necessary, to make room for 24 signees. As I explained in the Jaylon Woods thread, I don't have any qualms about doing this as long as we give those players at least a few weeks notice before National Signing Day (or the date to early enroll).

With that being said, here's my final list (new commits in bold):

ATH - Torrance Gibson, Jauan Jennings, Jacque Bruce
QB - Quentin Dormady
RB - Alvin Kamara, Rocky Reid
WR - Preston Williams
TE - Kyle Oliver
OL - Drew Richmond, Jack Jones, Chance Hall, Dylan Jackson
DE - Andrew Butcher, Kyle Phillips
DT - Khalil McKenzie, DJ Jones, Shy Tuttle, Quay Picou
LB - Austin Smith, Cecil Cherry
CB - Justin Martin, Cameron Ordway
S - Stephen Griffin
P - Tommy Townsend

I think Jefferson, Sapp and Settle sign elsewhere given the depth we have at those positions, and I predict we ultimately drop Woods, Lovingame, and Stewart (in that order).
 
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#52
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AboveAllNations said:
With the recruits that we're apparently leading for, I wouldn't be surprised if we drop Woods, Lovingood, Stewart, Bruce, and potentially even Dylan Jackson, if necessary, to make room for 24 signees. As I explained in the Jaylon Woods thread, I don't have any qualms about doing this as long as we give those players at least a few weeks notice before National Signing Day (or the date to early enroll).

With that being said, here's my final list (new commits in bold):

ATH - Torrance Gibson, Jauan Jennings, Jacque Bruce
QB - Quentin Dormady
RB - Alvin Kamara, Rocky Reid
WR - Preston Williams
TE - Kyle Oliver
OL - Drew Richmond, Jack Jones, Chance Hall, Dylan Jackson
DE - Andrew Butcher, Kyle Phillips
DT - Khalil McKenzie, DJ Jones, Shy Tuttle, Quay Picou
LB - Austin Smith, Cecil Cherry
CB - Justin Martin, Cameron Ordway
S - Stephen Griffin
P - Tommy Townsend

I think Jefferson, Sapp and Settle sign elsewhere given the depth we have at those positions, and I predict we ultimately drop Woods, Lovingame, and Stewart (in that order).
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Stewart was the first commit of the 2015 class back in April of last year... There is NO way we ask him to back out of his commitment.
 
#54
#54
TNHopeful505 said:
Eh, these are fun. I see us taking more than 25 again. I see there being a lot of attrition this offseason. I think after two seasons, Butch will know who just isn't cutting it, and some guys will see it. So, I'm going to assume we take 29.

QB - Jennings, Dormady, Gibson
RB - Kamara, Reid
WR - Williams, Jefferson
TE - Oliver
OL - Richmond, Lovingood, Jones, Stewart, Jackson, Hall
DL - McKenzie, Picou, Butcher, Phillips, Tuttle, Clemmons, DJ Jones (3 DTs, 3 DEs)
LB - Austin Smith, Cecil Cherry, Sapp
DB - Ordway, Justin Martin, McGraw
ATH - Bruce
P - Townsend

I'm going to guess that Griffin and Woods aren't a part of this class. No real reason, just guesses. Like everything else on this board.
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I like this list except for a few. I used to be confident we flip McGraw but for some reason I am just not feeling it now. I think Woods and Bruce will go elsewhere. Of course my track record of predicting sucks. I had Lambert as a Vol lock so....
 
#55
#55
I think we don't finish with a TE, and we'll lose one or two others that are currently committed. Pick up commits from Tuttle, Gibson (ath), Sapp, Kyle Phillips, DJ Jones, and Richmond. I have a feeling Butch pulls Austin Clark or flips Josh Smith on nsd. I could see Gibson in the wildcat with Dobbs or Dormady and throw any of our RBs back there with them. Preston and Malone on the wings. Man, don't even think about how the defense is going to be... Just plain scary.
 
#56
#56
TNHopeful505 said:
Eh, these are fun. I see us taking more than 25 again. I see there being a lot of attrition this offseason. I think after two seasons, Butch will know who just isn't cutting it, and some guys will see it. So, I'm going to assume we take 29.

QB - Jennings, Dormady, Gibson
RB - Kamara, Reid
WR - Williams, Jefferson
TE - Oliver
OL - Richmond, Lovingood, Jones, Stewart, Jackson, Hall
DL - McKenzie, Picou, Butcher, Phillips, Tuttle, Clemmons, DJ Jones (3 DTs, 3 DEs)
LB - Austin Smith, Cecil Cherry, Sapp
DB - Ordway, Justin Martin, McGraw
ATH - Bruce
P - Townsend

I'm going to guess that Griffin and Woods aren't a part of this class. No real reason, just guesses. Like everything else on this board.
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I don't think you fully understand how many players will have to leave for 29 to be possible. Attrition happens, yes. But not like that. Do you even know how many seniors we will have this year? If you did, you'd probably better understand just how ridiculous taking 29 players really is...."assuming" that attrition will happen to that degree is beyond ignorant, it's just stupid.

JMO, carry on with yo delusions of grandeur :)
 
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#58
Volunteer_Kirby said:
I don't think you fully understand how many players will have to leave for 29 to be possible. Attrition happens, yes. But not like that. Do you even know how many seniors we will have this year? If you did, you'd probably better understand just how ridiculous taking 29 players really is...."assuming" that attrition will happen to that degree is beyond ignorant, it's just stupid.

JMO, carry on with yo delusions of grandeur :)
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You know....not all of us on here are so enlightened that we know every detail of the simple science of recruiting numbers.

I made a guess. For whatever reason, I felt like a staff that pulled off 35 recruits when NOBODY saw how they could, could pull 4 more recruits than the full class amount, if they wanted to do it. If there were only 5 more spots, then why would we be at least 50 more prospects? Especially when we seem to have so many "locks."

Forgive me for being optimistic, Mr. Einstein. They'll take however many they take, but I'll bet you anything they take more than 25.
 
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#59
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TNHopeful505 said:
You know....not all of us on here are so enlightened that we know every detail of the simple science of recruiting numbers.

I made a guess. For whatever reason, I felt like a staff that pulled off 35 recruits when NOBODY saw how they could, could pull 4 more recruits than the full class amount, if they wanted to do it. If there were only 5 more spots, then why would we be at least 50 more prospects? Especially when we seem to have so many "locks."

Forgive me for being optimistic, Mr. Einstein. They'll take however many they take, but I'll bet you anything they take more than 25.
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It really comes down to there are not near as many "locks" as the fans want to believe. Not as many as recruits even want to believe. As we have all seen this year ALOT of very talented kids are being passed on by the staff at UT even while UT "leads". We have passed on kids who are now committed to Clemson, Auburn, South Carolina, and others. The staff was able to sign 32 kids in 2014 because of being able to back count a lot of those kids. There is no room to back count this year as they used all those spots up last class. With only 12 SRs this year, taking 29 just can't happen without the NCAA dropping the hammer on UT. Even getting to the 24 number discussed will mean there is a chance UT signs enough kids on NSD that 8 kids will have to be "processed" by Aug 2015. It's a big risk IMO. The staff did not do it last year so they were not going into camp this year knowing they had to drop any kids. They sign a full 24, and IMO things could get ugly. We'll see how it plays out.
 
#60
#60
LebanonVolunteer said:
It really comes down to there are not near as many "locks" as the fans want to believe. Not as many as recruits even want to believe. As we have all seen this year ALOT of very talented kids are being passed on by the staff at UT even while UT "leads". We have passed on kids who are now committed to Clemson, Auburn, South Carolina, and others. The staff was able to sign 32 kids in 2014 because of being able to back count a lot of those kids. There is no room to back count this year as they used all those spots up last class. With only 12 SRs this year, taking 29 just can't happen without the NCAA dropping the hammer on UT. Even getting to the 24 number discussed will mean there is a chance UT signs enough kids on NSD that 8 kids will have to be "processed" by Aug 2015. It's a big risk IMO. The staff did not do it last year so they were not going into camp this year knowing they had to drop any kids. They sign a full 24, and IMO things could get ugly. We'll see how it plays out.
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I have no idea. I just have to believe they'll take the best players they can in whatever spots they have. LONG time until Signing Day.
 
#61
#61
TNHopeful505 said:
I have no idea. I just have to believe they'll take the best players they can in whatever spots they have. LONG time until Signing Day.
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I agree, there could be still a lot to play out. Or, it could be very little IF the coaches see the class today as 20 and not the 15-17 some fans do based on *'s.

I have not seen UTs coaches take instate kids who committed and then drop them closer to NSD to make room for "more *'s". Or at least I don't recall them doing it since being here. I'm curious to see if they will, especially if they don't have character and or grade issues.

The whole concept of "let's drop the 2-3* kids to make room for the supposed 4-5* kids" just makes me laugh at times. If the coaches took the kids commitment, how do we know they don't see that 3* as a 4*? How do we know that 2* Punter is not viewed as the #2 recruit in the class by the coaches? They did take him early on.

:question:
 
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#62
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I agree, there could be still a lot to play out. Or, it could be very little IF the coaches see the class today as 20 and not the 15-17 some fans do based on *'s.

I have not seen UTs coaches take instate kids who committed and then drop them closer to NSD to make room for "more *'s". Or at least I don't recall them doing it since being here. I'm curious to see if they will, especially if they don't have character and or grade issues.

The whole concept of "let's drop the 2-3* kids to make room for the supposed 4-5* kids" just makes me laugh at times. If the coaches took the kids commitment, how do we know they don't see that 3* as a 4*? How do we know that 2* Punter is not viewed as the #2 recruit in the class by the coaches? They did take him early on.

:question:
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well since tg is an athlete maybe we can teach him to punt and longsnap. problem solved
 
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Ertel said:
well since tg is an athlete maybe we can teach him to punt and longsnap. problem solved
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TG as an "ATH", I don't have a problem with even at this stage in the class. Do I think he is a better WR than Jefferson? Probably not. Would the coaches take TG over VJ? I honestly don't know for sure.

If they did decide to take Gibson as an "ATH" who would not play into the QBs for 2015, cool. As I have said all along taking 3 QBs(even if you want to claim 2 are not QBs) is a plan for disaster IMO.
 
#65
#65
Now that we got khalil I think that sweat kid needs to be number 1 on the board I think butch and co could sway him to the orange wishful thinking
 
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#66
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AboveAllNations said:
With the recruits that we're apparently leading for, I wouldn't be surprised if we drop Woods, Lovingood, Stewart, Bruce, and potentially even Dylan Jackson, if necessary, to make room for 24 signees. As I explained in the Jaylon Woods thread, I don't have any qualms about doing this as long as we give those players at least a few weeks notice before National Signing Day (or the date to early enroll).

With that being said, here's my final list (new commits in bold):

ATH - Torrance Gibson, Jauan Jennings, Jacque Bruce
QB - Quentin Dormady
RB - Alvin Kamara, Rocky Reid
WR - Preston Williams
TE - Kyle Oliver
OL - Drew Richmond, Jack Jones, Chance Hall, Dylan Jackson
DE - Andrew Butcher, Kyle Phillips
DT - Khalil McKenzie, DJ Jones, Shy Tuttle, Quay Picou
LB - Austin Smith, Cecil Cherry
CB - Justin Martin, Cameron Ordway
S - Stephen Griffin
P - Tommy Townsend

I think Jefferson, Sapp and Settle sign elsewhere given the depth we have at those positions, and I predict we ultimately drop Woods, Lovingame, and Stewart (in that order).
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2 LBs? Not a chance, especially with Weatherd not qualifying
 
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#67
#67
OH-Vol said:
2 LBs? Not a chance, especially with Weatherd not qualifying
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Weatherd hasn't not qualified. He's looking to get in, just not this summer. Hubbs seems to think he'll get in.

Still a chance he won't, but things are looking fairly positive.

But he definitely is not written off.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Weatherd hasn't not qualified. He's looking to get in, just not this summer. Hubbs seems to think he'll get in.

Still a chance he won't, but things are looking fairly positive.

But he definitely is not written off.
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We need at least 3 LB this class and probably 4. The depth chart is scary at that position. In 2015 we will have:

JRM
Bates
Bryant
Jumper
Creamer
Bynum
King

We need Sapp, Cherry, Smith, and Atkinson in a desperate way for that year. We've only taken 2 true LBs in the past two classes, 4 if you count Jumper and Creamer.
 
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#72
#72
This is why I love lurking and posting in the recruiting forum so much. It's a lot of fun. Love the number crunching and predictions
 
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#73
#73
Tennessee Golfer said:
We need at least 3 LB this class and probably 4. The depth chart is scary at that position. In 2015 we will have:

JRM
Bates
Bryant
Jumper
Creamer
Bynum
King

We need Sapp, Cherry, Smith, and Atkinson in a desperate way for that year. We've only taken 2 true LBs in the past two classes, 4 if you count Jumper and Creamer.
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Who is Jumper? I noticed Evan Berry missing, is that his nickname or something
 
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#75
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Attrition will not matter once the number gets to 24. As it has been said, absolute max this class will be 24(25 if you count Swafford going on scholarship). Taking 29 is just not an option no matter how you work it.

QB-Jennings, Dormady
RB-Kamara, Reid
WR-Williams, Woods
TE-Oliver
OL-Stewart, Jones, Hall, Richmond
DT-Picou, McKenzie, Tuttle
DE-Butcher, Jackson, Phillips
LB-Cherry, Smith
S-Griffin
CB-Ordway, Bruce
P-Townsend
LS-Lovingood

Obviously Jefferson, Martin, & Sapp would be the next likely "IN" IF the staff does something with a current commitment. I won't make that call right now.
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I'd like to see Reid dropped and replaced with Love and Bruce replaced with McGraw. I also think we get Sweat.
 
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