Mike Gundy drunk driving apologist

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LouderVol said:
did it once, realized how dangerous it was, never again.

but I will say most states DUI laws are dumb. TN you can get a DUI just having alcohol in your system and walking to your car with your car keys on you. most states will also find you guilty of a DUI even if you blow a 0.000


"Physical Control of a Motor Vehicle
This element of Tennessee's DUI law means you don't have to be in motion to face arrest. You may be in physical control of a vehicle if you can drive, should you choose. Examples include having the keys in the ignition of a parked car or being asleep in the vehicle with the keys in your pocket."
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That is not true and is almost as ridiculous as what Gundy said.
 
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pimo1 said:
Here is the truth. Life is about perspective. Some of us come fro ma world where drinking and driving, smoking in public all kinds of things looked down on these days were common place. Drinking and driving is bad.. but trust me it happens all the time literally right now if you live anywhere near people someone is driving drunk within a few miles of you in broad daylight. Maybe your amazon driver. That does not make it right but its a fact of life. What Gundy is saying is actually true in ways he likely does not understand. We live in a society where because of social media everyone sits in judgement of others all day long. Some self-reflection might be in order.
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I have a DUI conviction from 2005. I have several friends with DUI convictions on their records. DUI arrests are indeed very common. In my case, there wasn't even anything wrong with how I was driving. I was stopped at a DUI checkpoint right after the Super Bowl between the Patriots and Eagles had ended .... but I did have a BAC of .15.

It was foolish and irresponsible of me. I don't feel that it's mitigated just because many otherwise law-abiding citizens make the same mistake. Gundy seems like a weirdo. I know he has been offered the Tennessee job at least once. I'm glad he stayed put.
 
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Ollie Gordon is 6’2” and weighs 225 pounds. To have a BAC of 0.1 at that size, he had to have about 5 or 6 beers within an hour of his first drink, not 2 or 3 the way Gundy suggests. That’s where he’s downplaying Gordon’s behavior, by lying about how many drinks Gordon had. Anyone should know better than having 5 or 6 drinks (maybe more if it was over a longer period of time than 1 hour, which it probably was), and then getting behind the wheel.

I’m a small guy, about 150 pounds, and I’d have to have about 4 drinks within an hour for my BAC to be 0.1.
 
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Volfan76 said:
That is not true and is almost as ridiculous as what Gundy said.
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is true, linked to it, and have a friend who was found guilty under those circumstances. not my story to tell so I won't go into any more detail.
 
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05_never_again said:
Still can get a DUI.

Not condoning it, but the vast majority of people who consume alcohol on any kind of remotely consistent basis could have gotten a DUI if they drove within a few hours of drinking one. I don't know many people (nobody, really) who is calling an Uber or getting a DD because they had one Miller Lite an hour before. I think most people think you can't get a DUI if you blew below a .08, but that isn't true.
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Yes, you can get a DUI in many states, even if you’re BAC is below 0.08, because police officers can just say “you look impaired to me,” and that’s all she wrote. That’s not fair. I agree. However, when it comes to Ollie Gordon, this is not the case. Ollie Gordon’s BAC was 0.1 at the time of his arrest. Therefore, based on his size, he had at least 5 drinks within an hour before getting behind the wheel. Trying to justify what Gordon did by saying, “Sometimes people get DUI’s when they shouldn’t,” is fallacious.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
Yes, you can get a DUI in many states, even if you’re BAC is below 0.08, because police officers can just say “you look impaired to me,” and that’s all she wrote. That’s not fair. I agree. However, when it comes to Ollie Gordon, it is not the case. Ollie Gordon’s BAC was 0.1 at the time of his arrest. Therefore, based on his size, he had at least 5 drinks within an hour before getting behind the wheel. Trying to justify what Gordon did by saying, “Sometimes people get DUI’s when they shouldn’t,” is fallacious.
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Yes, agreed. He was also drinking underage, which is a separate issue. Gordon would have gotten arrested even if he blew a 0.01.
 
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To bring this back on topic a bit, I think Gundy says stuff like this because he feels untouchable at OSU and he likes poking the proverbial bear/tempting fate. This is far from the first time he's said something that makes you go "Dude, why are you even talking about this?"
 
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05_never_again said:
To bring this back on topic a bit, I think Gundy says stuff like this because he feels untouchable at OSU and he likes poking the proverbial bear/tempting fate. This is far from the first time he's said something that makes you go "Dude, why are you even talking about this?"
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He’s a man child
 
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So Grundy says he's done this 1000s of times?

Gordon was arrested on June 30 on four charges; DUI under 21 years of age, transportation of an open container of alcoholic beverage, failing to maintain a single lane of traffic and speeding (82 mph in a 65 mph zone). He was formally charged with a misdemeanor on the first two counts in Cleveland County on Monday.
 
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AthensVol2007 said:
He simply said what so many are afraid to say out loud. Find me one person who drinks and calls a ride/lines up a DD every single time they have a drink, regardless of how little. I’ve always said I’ll never judge a person over a DUI because I could’ve been caught umpteen times too; like Gundy said.
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Exactly. I also know my limit as well. When wife and I go out to eat it's one beer or wine for me cause I know I'll be driving. Even if it doesn't register over limit, 2 drinks would be nudging me in on a buzz. I'm light weight now that college has been in the rear view for a few decades. But, there were times I could have been slapped around the white line.
 
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05_never_again said:
To bring this back on topic a bit, I think Gundy says stuff like this because he feels untouchable at OSU and he likes poking the proverbial bear/tempting fate. This is far from the first time he's said something that makes you go "Dude, why are you even talking about this?"
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exactly that and is part of the point. He was a star quarterback from a small town in Oklahoma went on to be a star QB at OK State. Since 1986 he has spent all but 4 years of his career in Stillwater (population 50k and more than half of that is the school and its employees). He is well beyond BMOC status he in the city. It is not right but almost any person in that set of circumstances would have his outlook. The question is why is anyone surprised or outraged? It's like when people point out that Hulk Hogan is a pathological liar and general POS..how are you surprised? Or Dog the Bounty Hunter Paula Deen said the bad word to someone. People are for the most part products of their environments. Gundy came from a time and place where pre-teen kids drank on a regular basis openly. No one is saying its right it is just so obvious it's sad people get outraged. If he came out and was like kick the kid off the team zero tolerance he'd be quite the hypocrite.

Also to put it in perspective both his statements. And note the kid got a DUI not a manslaughter charge, there was no accident or person hurt. Had the kid ran over someone it would put his statements in a whole different light but as is they make perfect sense.

initial statement

"One thing that I can say in Year 20 as a head coach that I probably wouldn't say in Year 2 is, everyone needs to look in the mirror and think, have I done that and not gotten caught?" Gundy said. "Have I had two or three beers and drove a car? Because two or three beers can put you over the legal limit. People need to put some thought into that and not throw stones through glass windows. Not that it's right, and I want him to understand the seriousness as a parent, and I think he did."

then after the blowup

"My intended point today at Big 12 media days was that we are all guilty of making bad decisions," Gundy wrote. "It was not a reference to something specific."

While Gordon could face internal penalties, Gundy said he views the matter as settled.

"I've been with Ollie a considerable number of times and listened to him," Gundy said. "He was remorseful and knew how serious it could have been. That allowed me to make a decision. I have to make a decision and there's a lot of people involved in this decision, not just him. I wanted it to be over with today, other than what he has to deal with from a legal standpoint. But for our team and me, it's over today and we try to regroup heading forward."


People get so caught up on soundbites they miss the whole point.
 
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pimo1 said:
exactly that and is part of the point. He was a star quarterback from a small town in Oklahoma went on to be a star QB at OK State. Since 1986 he has spent all but 4 years of his career in Stillwater (population 50k and more than half of that is the school and its employees). He is well beyond BMOC status he in the city. It is not right but almost any person in that set of circumstances would have his outlook. The question is why is anyone surprised or outraged? It's like when people point out that Hulk Hogan is a pathological liar and general POS..how are you surprised? Or Dog the Bounty Hunter Paula Deen said the bad word to someone. People are for the most part products of their environments. Gundy came from a time and place where pre-teen kids drank on a regular basis openly. No one is saying its right it is just so obvious it's sad people get outraged. If he came out and was like kick the kid off the team zero tolerance he'd be quite the hypocrite.

Also to put it in perspective both his statements. And note the kid got a DUI not a manslaughter charge, there was no accident or person hurt. Had the kid ran over someone it would put his statements in a whole different light but as is they make perfect sense.

initial statement

"One thing that I can say in Year 20 as a head coach that I probably wouldn't say in Year 2 is, everyone needs to look in the mirror and think, have I done that and not gotten caught?" Gundy said. "Have I had two or three beers and drove a car? Because two or three beers can put you over the legal limit. People need to put some thought into that and not throw stones through glass windows. Not that it's right, and I want him to understand the seriousness as a parent, and I think he did."

then after the blowup

"My intended point today at Big 12 media days was that we are all guilty of making bad decisions," Gundy wrote. "It was not a reference to something specific."

While Gordon could face internal penalties, Gundy said he views the matter as settled.

"I've been with Ollie a considerable number of times and listened to him," Gundy said. "He was remorseful and knew how serious it could have been. That allowed me to make a decision. I have to make a decision and there's a lot of people involved in this decision, not just him. I wanted it to be over with today, other than what he has to deal with from a legal standpoint. But for our team and me, it's over today and we try to regroup heading forward."


People get so caught up on soundbites they miss the whole point.
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You aren't wrong, but there's a general expectation that people in his position, and who make his kind of money, become more than just the product of their environment.
 
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LouderVol said:
is true, linked to it, and have a friend who was found guilty under those circumstances. not my story to tell so I won't go into any more detail.
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If your friend told you they got a DUI for walking and you believed it, then I can't help either one of you. Good day.
 
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Volfan76 said:
If your friend told you they got a DUI for walking and you believed it, then I can't help either one of you. Good day.
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they didn't just tell me. I was in the court room when "justice" was meted out. I didn't hear a single thing in that room that refuted what my friend said.
 
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Volfan76 said:
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Well Fes, the real world justice system doesn't come scripted in a TV show. The system isn't perfect, plenty of dumb laws on the books, most cops aren't Barney Fife, and Judge Judy doesn't always call it fair.

Sorry that offends or scares you and you would rather bury your head in the sand than face basic facts.
 
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LouderVol said:
Well Fes, the real world justice system doesn't come scripted in a TV show. The system isn't perfect, plenty of dumb laws on the books, most cops aren't Barney Fife, and Judge Judy doesn't always call it fair.

Sorry that offends or scares you and you would rather bury your head in the sand than face basic facts.
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Whatever you say. Better get going now. Some of your friends may need you in court today.
 
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05_never_again said:
You aren't wrong, but there's a general expectation that people in his position, and who make his kind of money, become more than just the product of their environment.
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That's what's called an unrealistic expectation. Never in the history of ever has that been something that happens. You give people money and power on that scale, especially ones that came from humble beginnings, and it almost never turns out well. Bro had adults kissing his rear since an early age, is easily the biggest show in town in Stillwater for the past 4 decades. anyone expecting anyone in that position to not be a tad delusional is themselves delusional.
 
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LouderVol said:
did it once, realized how dangerous it was, never again.

but I will say most states DUI laws are dumb. TN you can get a DUI just having alcohol in your system and walking to your car with your car keys on you. most states will also find you guilty of a DUI even if you blow a 0.000


"Physical Control of a Motor Vehicle
This element of Tennessee's DUI law means you don't have to be in motion to face arrest. You may be in physical control of a vehicle if you can drive, should you choose. Examples include having the keys in the ignition of a parked car or being asleep in the vehicle with the keys in your pocket."
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Well I guess it’s ok to drive after drinking? Is it ok to slap your girl friend around too?
 
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LouderVol said:
most states will also find you guilty of a DUI even if you blow a 0.000
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That would only be true if a toxicology report came back positive for an intoxicating agent. Knoxville is home to one of the best DUI Defense Specialists in the country in Steve Oberman. He founded the National College of DUI Defense. Oberman has gotten clients off who blew as high as .18 ..... Most jurisdictions will not find you guilty if you blow .00 .... provided that you also have a clean toxicology report. That is a crock.

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Call him if you think I'm wrong. He is very receptive to all questions concerning DUI and your rights. I know I'm not wrong. He would laugh at what you just said up above.
 
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