Mike Gundy of Okie State

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#152
Bill,
We disagree on the basic underpinnings of each others argument. I think he over reacted, you thought it was a great response. I think that her article was poor, but reflected the media of today, you disagree. Fine.














but i'm right. :)
 
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#153
but he never fed the Times what they wanted to hear. He fed them what they thought was the news as it happened. When they found out it was false, they took action.
 
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volfanbill said:
but he never fed the Times what they wanted to hear. He fed them what they thought was the news as it happened. When they found out it was false, they took action.
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They thought it was news because they wanted to hear news like that....otherwise they would have gotten him earlier.
 
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crazyguy said:
They thought it was news because they wanted to hear news like that....otherwise they would have gotten him earlier.
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everyone loves to hear news and get scoops. it's how newspapers get ahead in the world. they thought they were getting scoops, they were getting garbage.
 
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volfanbill said:
everyone loves to hear news and get scoops. it's how newspapers get ahead in the world. they thought they were getting scoops, they were getting garbage.
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right...and they choose which ones to put in their limited space, and where to put them. This is the way they editorialize the paper.

Ok, i'm out for a few hours...
 
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VolBeef88 said:
But when a man takes an aggressive posture towards another man and yells it is different. I don't care what the NOW gang thinks. It just is different. What she did was wrong and was poor journalism. How he handled himself was just as poor and unprofesional and not very manly. Bowing up to a man is different than bowing up to a woman in my book.
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Why is it different? There was NO violence in this entire thing. He used no obscenities. He told her exactly what she is. If a woman is garbage and is printing garbage then I will call her garbage. She deserved everything she got and I don't care if she was a woman. It's completely ridiculous. If she can't hold her own against any of these people she shouldn't be a sportswriter, because the majority of people reading her articles are males who are going to be VERY angry if she says something that is complete crap.
 
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crazyguy said:
right...and they choose which ones to put in their limited space, and where to put them. This is the way they editorialize the paper.

Ok, i'm out for a few hours...
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you're still arguing when you have 0 idea what you are talking about. Good job. :crazy:
 
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dickens821 said:
you're still arguing when you have 0 idea what you are talking about. Good job. :crazy:
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Thank you idealistic college student who obviously doesn't read the slant in papers like the ny times or wall street journal... It's ok, you're supposed to be like that at this point in your life.
 
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If Ms. Carlson doesn't want to be "bowed up on," she should write restaurant reviews or the society recap. Act like a man, get treated like a man.
 
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#161
Brian Billick calling Jeremy Shapp an "ambulance chaser" during the first press conference of Super Bowl week was classic. Actually, that entire press tour de force by Billick was gold.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Brian Billick calling Jeremy Shapp an "ambulance chaser" during the first press conference of Super Bowl week was classic. Actually, that entire press tour de force by Billick was gold.
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I am sorry I missed that.
 
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GAVol said:
I agree, but the problem with that is that there is no way a football coach can stand there and take on a female reporter without looking bad . . . If he's going to look bad, he might as well get his money's worth. :p
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Yes there is. He could have called her out and pointed out where she was wrong. He could have said you were wrong about XYZ and you should print a retraction. Or he could have said the same thing without bowing up and yelling at her. It was a very aggressive posture to take towards a woman IMO. She was wrong, but so was he with his reaction.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If Ms. Carlson doesn't want to be "bowed up on," she should write restaurant reviews or the society recap. Act like a man, get treated like a man.
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There is a difference in a man and a woman no matter how much Gloria Steinham you wanna read (I know you prolly don't read her but it fit). I stand by the statement that if he or any man took such an aggressive posture and yelled at my family member who is a woman then I would come seeking answers. He even stated he was a man. Guess what so am I. He showed no class. I know you and I will disagree on this. But then again I am the kind of man who still opens the door for women and I still say yes Ma'am. She was wrong in her article and he was wrong in his approach.
 
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I hold doors. Don't often say "Ma'am" because I find it perpetuates Southern stereotypes. However, in a professional situation, everybody gets treated the same. Interesting trivia: Patricia Ireland-UT grad.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Brian Billick calling Jeremy Shapp an "ambulance chaser" during the first press conference of Super Bowl week was classic. Actually, that entire press tour de force by Billick was gold.
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interesting correlation between Jeremy Schapp and people getting blasted for asking coaches stupid questions.

i guess he still has a long way to go compared to his father.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I hold doors. Don't often say "Ma'am" because I find it perpetuates Southern stereotypes. However, in a professional situation, everybody gets treated the same. Interesting trivia: Patricia Ireland-UT grad.
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There is nothing wrong IMO of being a southern gentleman. I find it is not so bad of a thing when I travel North or West. :)

I didn't know about Old Patsy was a UT grad.
 
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crazyguy said:
Thank you idealistic college student who obviously doesn't read the slant in papers like the ny times or wall street journal... It's ok, you're supposed to be like that at this point in your life.
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I understand there is bias in the media. It doesn't change the fact that it is WRONG, no matter HOW MUCH it is done in the "REAL WORLD". God bless. Just because she is doing what will get her ahead in her career doesn't mean it is right , or that she should be respected for it.

God it's hard to not to call names sometimes.
 
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