Military struggling to meet quota.

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#126
hog88 said:
They didn't have any problems recruiting while we were at war. Plenty of young men join wanting to be tested, be a warrior, they don't want to join to be a social experiment.
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They did have issues because of fitness levels or psych evals. This has been going for a while

No one wants to fight so rich people they richer. I don't blame any of them

I also think attributing a single reason to the decisions of teens is a mistake. Likely many factors
 
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utvolpj said:
They did have issues because of fitness levels or psych evals. This has been going for a while

No one wants to fight so rich people they richer. I don't blame any of them

I also think attributing a single reason to the decisions of teens is a mistake. Likely many factors
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There is some of that but if guys felt like they could go in do cool **** and be a bad ass instead of sitting in awareness classes recruiting wouldn’t be as bad.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Bingo. Nobody wants to fight for this government.
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Leftists by nature of ideology will not join the military en masse like conservatives. They look at the country as having too many defects. There is a criminal element to their base that is allowed.

Antifa - do you expect many in this group to join the military? How about in the trans community? How about the ones who don't want to work hard but don't want the government to cut their welfare programs? What about the race hustlers? Maybe the type of people who dream of working for the federal government because they see the get rich schemes? Basically if you have a grievance, want to claim victimization, love getting stoned with illicit drugs, taught being overweight means something different now....are any of these folks ready to Be All You Can Be?

How stupid do they think people are when the bureaucrats are more worried about rainbow flags and CRT? Going back to normal commercials is not enough to create immediate help. They're fortunate there are many who are committed to their contracts set in place during the last administration. Those people still have a lot of pride. It's the ones you want to add in the future that are creating the numbers problems. These are the ones they been feeding the most garbage over the last several years. Those 12 year olds are now 18.
 
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Pay Troops At Least $15 Per Hour? A GOP Lawmaker Wants to Raise the Military's Minimum Wage

Service members would be entitled to a base pay rate of at least $31,200 per year, or the equivalent of $15 per hour for a 40-hour workweek, under the Raising Annual Income of Servicemembers by Enhancing, or RAISE, Minimum Base Pay Act reintroduced by Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Calif., late last week.


40 hour work week ? Since when? They own your ass. You work as much as they say work no O.T.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Pay Troops At Least $15 Per Hour? A GOP Lawmaker Wants to Raise the Military's Minimum Wage

Service members would be entitled to a base pay rate of at least $31,200 per year, or the equivalent of $15 per hour for a 40-hour workweek, under the Raising Annual Income of Servicemembers by Enhancing, or RAISE, Minimum Base Pay Act reintroduced by Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Calif., late last week.


40 hour work week ? Since when? They own your ass. You work as much as they say work no O.T.
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So the salary/wages floor is less than $15 an hour? How is that even worth it?
 
#136
#136
85SugarVol said:
Let’s see your list.
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I can only speak for the Navy, by the way. These aren’t in order…
1) “Do more with less” mentality, not enough people to fill critical billets and working our Sailors to death instead of getting them help.
2) “Mission First” but limiting down time. Operational Tempo is too high for our people.
3) Sub-par standard of living for junior military in barracks and ships. We can’t retain them because living on a ship sucks.
4) Privatization and centralization of key support functions, like maintenance and personnel admin. Nowadays you can’t walk into an admin office and talk to someone face to face, it’s all online. And you can’t perform your own repairs without calling a contractor.
5) “50%” of pay for pension after 20 years of service. But that’s only base pay, which is usually about half of military pay. Most other civilian government agencies have better retirement plans.
6) The VA sucks. My dad died in a decrepit house waiting 5+ years on his Agent Orange cancer disability appeal. They closed his case 5 days after he died. Basically, “whoops, you’re dead already”.
7) There are too many Admirals, more than any other time in history. And they all want to leave their mark on the Navy, usually in the form of some stupid program that costs junior Sailors more of their time that they don’t have.
8) Annual training requirements. I’ve had essentially the same online mandatory training topics every year for the past 16 years. Usually they create a new website for these, but the old one still doesn’t go away and we have to do that one too.
9) I was a recruiter for 3 years. It’s completely backwards and we can’t get the right talent because we are too focused on “Navy first” instead of allowing people to apply to jobs that they are interested in.
10) Mental Health. Top brass testify that they are combating mental health issues, but their fleet commanders and captains are too busy pushing their people to death for career advancement to make time for these things. People are afraid to speak up if they have issues. Once they do, they have a reputation and are processed out. Would you rather have less anxiety about your career? Good, you’re fired…
 
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This one dovetails perfectly with the DEI push currently under way.

8) Annual training requirements. I’ve had essentially the same online mandatory training topics every year for the past 16 years. Usually they create a new website for these, but the old one still doesn’t go away and we have to do that one too.
 
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85SugarVol said:
This one dovetails perfectly with the DEI push currently under way.

8) Annual training requirements. I’ve had essentially the same online mandatory training topics every year for the past 16 years. Usually they create a new website for these, but the old one still doesn’t go away and we have to do that one too.
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I can’t bring myself to agree with the DEI narrative. Unless I’m in a vacuum, which is possible, I’ve had zero issues with any of this “woke” stuff taking priority over the mission or regular activities. At best, it’s a small distraction. Personally I believe the media blows it way out of proportion.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
Pay Troops At Least $15 Per Hour? A GOP Lawmaker Wants to Raise the Military's Minimum Wage

Service members would be entitled to a base pay rate of at least $31,200 per year, or the equivalent of $15 per hour for a 40-hour workweek, under the Raising Annual Income of Servicemembers by Enhancing, or RAISE, Minimum Base Pay Act reintroduced by Rep. Mike Garcia, R-Calif., late last week.


40 hour work week ? Since when? They own your ass. You work as much as they say work no O.T.
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Boomer logic
 
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Willy P said:
I can’t bring myself to agree with the DEI narrative. Unless I’m in a vacuum, which is possible, I’ve had zero issues with any of this “woke” stuff taking priority over the mission or regular activities. At best, it’s a small distraction. Personally I believe the media blows it way out of proportion.
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Have you had any training on it?
 
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#146
BreatheUT said:
Leftists by nature of ideology will not join the military en masse like conservatives. They look at the country as having too many defects. There is a criminal element to their base that is allowed.

Antifa - do you expect many in this group to join the military? How about in the trans community? How about the ones who don't want to work hard but don't want the government to cut their welfare programs? What about the race hustlers? Maybe the type of people who dream of working for the federal government because they see the get rich schemes? Basically if you have a grievance, want to claim victimization, love getting stoned with illicit drugs, taught being overweight means something different now....are any of these folks ready to Be All You Can Be?

How stupid do they think people are when the bureaucrats are more worried about rainbow flags and CRT? Going back to normal commercials is not enough to create immediate help. They're fortunate there are many who are committed to their contracts set in place during the last administration. Those people still have a lot of pride. It's the ones you want to add in the future that are creating the numbers problems. These are the ones they been feeding the most garbage over the last several years. Those 12 year olds are now 18.
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Weakening the military has always been the lefts' goal, yet, they'll use the military frivolously when they're in control.

We'll not win a war against China, our military doesn't have the strength nor will.
 
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Willy P said:
4) Privatization and centralization of key support functions, like maintenance and personnel admin. Nowadays you can’t walk into an admin office and talk to someone face to face, it’s all online. And you can’t perform your own repairs without calling a contractor.
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Of course... MIC gotta make some money, too.
 
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