Millions of Illegal Aliens From All Over The World Head For U.S. Border

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lawgator1 said:
Recent high marks for illegal immigration have topped 10,000 per day.

The bill would state that if there are 4,000 on average, then Homeland Security can close the border. If it hit 5,000 average per day, or 8,500 in just one day, the border is AUTOMATICALLY shut down.

I realize you want it to be zero. I'm not sure that's realistic, but ok, starting from there..... that will not pass. THIS bill -- if Trump had not intervened to kill it to help his election chances -- would have passed and would have been a step in the right direction.

Those of you unwilling to admit that this is the umpteenth example of election year politics -- this time from Trump -- becoming a roadblock to addressing this issue are simply fooling yourselves.
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Even on this one point there are about half a dozen things you aren't listing that are wrong with it.

there is a cap on how many days it can be shut down. and also the president can unilaterally reopen it. and the number of days it can be closed decreases each year, so that at max its not even half a year of closure for meeting those thresholds.

also immigrants that AREN'T from Mexico or Canada won't count to those interactions numbers mentioned above. so if 4 thousand people "from" Guatemala show up every day for 100 days straight the border remains open.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Recent high marks for illegal immigration have topped 10,000 per day.

The bill would state that if there are 4,000 on average, then Homeland Security can close the border. If it hit 5,000 average per day, or 8,500 in just one day, the border is AUTOMATICALLY shut down.

I realize you want it to be zero. I'm not sure that's realistic, but ok, starting from there..... that will not pass. THIS bill -- if Trump had not intervened to kill it to help his election chances -- would have passed and would have been a step in the right direction.

Those of you unwilling to admit that this is the umpteenth example of election year politics -- this time from Trump -- becoming a roadblock to addressing this issue are simply fooling yourselves.
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The President can unilaterally re-open the border - at anytime, for any reason.

IF - “It is in the National Interest”

So the entire thing can be set aside at the whim of the Executive branch.

You going to address that, or continue to ignore it?
 
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Now that it is inevitable that Mayorkas is about to get impeached, the Biden Administration wants to act like they are serious about the border. These aren't serious people. Now he is angry and emotional. You can't trust these people as far as you can see them. They are playing games with voters and the security of this country.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nor according to Trump, when he was President. Trump said in 2019 that he needed authority from Congress to actually close it.

Of course, now he's running. And so does not want progress to be made.
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If Dems are worried about the border why is Schiff and the DnC stonewalling HR 2 which pass back in June of 23??
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
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The bill, which Trump is trying to prevent from passing for his own campaign purposes, has specific provisions as to fentanyl. The bill would add $723 million is to hire additional Customs and Border Protection officers and Border Patrol agents and support Border Patrol overtime and $424.5 million is to combat the entry of fentanyl and other illicit narcotics from entering the U.S.

But hey, Trump wants to campaign on the issue. All progress must be stopped in its tracks to help him in the polls.

Honestly, I don't know who is worse: Trump for shouting for years that this is the primary threat to the country, yet he undermines any progress on it; or those yahoos particularly in the House who are doing his bidding. The whole lot of them have ZERO credibility now on border issues.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its a fact that Trump has blocked it. Numerous GOP Senators have confirmed that Trump told them to kill the deal to prevent Biden from having any success on the issue.
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You're believing what the MSM is feeding you. These Senators have no obligation to follow Trump's orders. They're not supporting it because it's a bad bill. If the Senate Republicans voted down HR 2 then you might have something
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its a fact that Trump has blocked it. Numerous GOP Senators have confirmed that Trump told them to kill the deal to prevent Biden from having any success on the issue.
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And you still haven't explained why this is a bad thing. Why was the bill needed?

Edit: For over 3 years now Biden has been telling us the border is secure and there isn't a problem. Why now does he need this bill passed if the border is secure and there isn't a problem?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The bill, which Trump is trying to prevent from passing for his own campaign purposes, has specific provisions as to fentanyl. The bill would add $723 million is to hire additional Customs and Border Protection officers and Border Patrol agents and support Border Patrol overtime and $424.5 million is to combat the entry of fentanyl and other illicit narcotics from entering the U.S.

But hey, Trump wants to campaign on the issue. All progress must be stopped in its tracks to help him in the polls.

Honestly, I don't know who is worse: Trump for shouting for years that this is the primary threat to the country, yet he undermines any progress on it; or those yahoos particularly in the House who are doing his bidding. The whole lot of them have ZERO credibility now on border issues.
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Trump didn't need billions from Congress to secure the border
 
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lawgator1 said:
The bill, which Trump is trying to prevent from passing for his own campaign purposes, has specific provisions as to fentanyl. The bill would add $723 million is to hire additional Customs and Border Protection officers and Border Patrol agents and support Border Patrol overtime and $424.5 million is to combat the entry of fentanyl and other illicit narcotics from entering the U.S.

But hey, Trump wants to campaign on the issue. All progress must be stopped in its tracks to help him in the polls.

Honestly, I don't know who is worse: Trump for shouting for years that this is the primary threat to the country, yet he undermines any progress on it; or those yahoos particularly in the House who are doing his bidding. The whole lot of them have ZERO credibility now on border issues.
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Why can't Biden use the tools he already has to control the border and drug smuggling?
 
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hog88 said:
No it doesn't.
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Right, because you, Laura Loomer, Zerohedge and the whoever else's tweets you are all salivating over in this thread today have more expertise in border issues than the border patrol themselves. Get over yourself bro, you are not nearly as informed as you think you are.
 
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TN Ribs said:
Right, because you, Laura Loomer, Zerohedge and the whoever else's tweets you are all salivating over in this thread today have more expertise in border issues than the border patrol themselves. Get over yourself bro, you are not nearly as informed as you think you are.
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Their one issue item doesn't justify this abomination of a bill.
 
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