Mimi Groves/UT revoked admission

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hog88 said:
The University as a whole is there to prepare young adults for life and provide them with the skills/knowledge to succeed. Turning it's back on someone because they said a word when they were 15 is not fulfilling that goal. You as a professor are just a cog in that machine.
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It doesn’t really matter if it’s a university or a friend or an employer. Shunning this girl for something she said at 15 is unforgivable.

Every one of us - and that includes administrators at the university - have said something unsavory at some point in their lives. The hypocrisy of the people who wield this power to destroy others for their shortcomings in the social justice space is disgusting.

I’ve said before that the current cancel culture allows no grace for anyone (with the exception of select liberal voices). People and institutions that perpetuate this mentality suck.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
My in laws are DEVOUT Pentecostals. Every time we go out to eat my wife gets a panicked look when the server is getting a drink order. 😂😂
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It only took a moment for Jesus to turn the water into wine. Certain Christians have spent the last 2000 years trying to change it back.
 
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DC_Vol said:
It doesn’t really matter if it’s a university or a friend or an employer. Shunning this girl for something she said at 15 is unforgivable.

Every one of us - and that includes administrators at the university - have said something unsavory at some point in their lives. The hypocrisy of the people who wield this power to destroy others for their shortcomings in the social justice space is disgusting.

I’ve said before that the current cancel culture allows no grace for anyone (with the exception of select liberal voices). People and institutions that perpetuate this mentality suck.
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I'd say that instead of creating an opportunity for education, they've created a new radical that they hate.

What happens when you push the people that have historically been the most successful, most inventive, most innovative, most powerful, most militarily organized and strong, etc. etc. etc. underground, constantly calling them names and forcing them out of opportunity for the crime of existing? What happens when they organize?

Good luck.
 
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DC_Vol said:
It doesn’t really matter if it’s a university or a friend or an employer. Shunning this girl for something she said at 15 is unforgivable.

Every one of us - and that includes administrators at the university - have said something unsavory at some point in their lives. The hypocrisy of the people who wield this power to destroy others for their shortcomings in the social justice space is disgusting.

I’ve said before that the current cancel culture allows no grace for anyone (with the exception of select liberal voices). People and institutions that perpetuate this mentality suck.
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There is a close cultural analog for this incident.....the Cultural Revolution under Mao. We will never know the final body count that eventually resulted but it is in the millions
 
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lawgator1 said:
I agree in the sense that they had a whole range of choices of what to do and picked the most extreme on one end, at the expense of doing something a lot more constructive.




As I understand it, her comment was similar to if I am playing poker with friends and win a good pot and say "Full house, bit#hes!" In a joking way, not actually calling anyone any epithet. So I think its a matter of her saying that she used waaaaay the wrong word to express that sentiment. Maybe a panel discussion on how race and popular culture come together to both promote awareness that the word has a history, along with a recognition that times change and that music, lingo, etc., can merge to make use of the word innocent to younger people, but truly offensive to older people.
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The only rational choice would have been to accept her and if ever questioned simply say "we judge people for who they are, not what they said when they were 15".
 
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ButchPlz said:
I'd say that instead of creating an opportunity for education, they've created a new radical that they hate.

What happens when you push the people that have historically been the most successful, most inventive, most innovative, most powerful, most militarily organized and strong, etc. etc. etc. underground, constantly calling them names and forcing them out of opportunity for the crime of existing? What happens when they organize?

Good luck.
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If I were this girl’s father, my first inclination would be to hire a team to find out who all was responsible for this decision (including the guy who releases the video) and dig through their pasts, interview old friends and classmates, and just see what turns up.
 
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tnutater said:
Lyndon Johnson said after signing the Civil Rights Act that it assured that Negros would vote Democrat for the next 100 years.
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I think you are misremembering this particular- apocryphal- quote. After signing the Civil Rights Act LBJ did reflect on the legislation by expressing to his aides (Bill Moyers) something to the effect "We have lost the South for a generation."
 
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OrangeTsar said:
It only took a moment for Jesus to turn the water into wine. Certain Christians have spent the last 2000 years trying to change it back.
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They actually believe/teach that he turned it into “non-alcoholic wine “. You can’t make this **** up.
 
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I had heard about this initially back in June when UT cheer revoked her offer, but did not know the context regarding the video's release to Twitter.

I absolutely understand why UT didn't want her on the cheer team and, to a much lesser extent, why they pressured her into seeking education elsewhere; it was going to be a little difficult for a public university south of the Mason-Dixon line to just ignore the Twitter outrage back in June considering all of the nonsense going on regarding George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, so obviously UT felt that some action needed to be taken, but the university clearly forgot that kowtowing to the mob is never quite "enough" so it's somewhat interesting that they took the absolute worst approach (either doing nothing or rescinding her admission from the school entirely would have been better since, ultimately, you now pissed off two groups of people instead of one). Things probably seem pretty bad for Mimi right now, but I'm sure she can go to another university next fall (when the college experience won't be quite as diluted by COVID-19) and there's going to be a point in the near future where we do a course correct in terms of our attitude towards skeletons like this since the internet remembers everything and careening further left is going to vilify even more innocuous tweets/videos.

I don't feel sorry for him one bit, but it seems as if a lot of people (the boy included) don't realize just how much this guysucks. The entire NYT article is about all of the perceived slights through which this loser "persevered" as a gay black kid in "racist" Virginia, but Loudoun County is a pretty upscale place (that leans Dem) and wouldn't be mistaken for the setting of Deliverance; this kid didn't have a terrible time in high school because of his race, he had a bad time because people eventually caught on to the fact that he's the worst and exactly the type of person who would pull a stunt like this. He just can't comprehend that his newfound unpopularity has nothing to do with the color of his skin (it certainly looks like he didn't have any trouble hanging out with white Trump supporters in 2017) and instead is due entirely to his generally-insufferable nature. If this following anecdote is something you'd share with the New York Times, people are going to dislike you regardless of your race/orientation/anything else; the sooner Jimmy comes to terms with this, the better the remainder of his life will be.

"Shortly after his 18th birthday in July, Mr. Galligan asked his father, a former law enforcement officer, what he thought about white privilege. “The first thing he said to me is that it doesn’t exist,” Mr. Galligan recalled.
He then asked his father if he had ever been scared while walking at night, or while reaching into the glove box after getting pulled over by the police.

He said his father had not.

“That is your white privilege,” Mr. Galligan said he told him."
 
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Great post @TrumpedUpVol. Couple of my not nearly as well constructed thoughts. First off, if I had a mixed son and he said that to me....words do not even begin to describe the hell I would want to rain down on him. Second, if any of my children were that petty and disgustingly condescending, I would feel like gutter trash. Lastly, that kid is acting so much like a victim, yet from the looks of it he's pretty well off, knows nothing of oppression, and trust me kid, by the looks of it no police officer would perceive you as a threat of any kind.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
just using their first amendment rights to voice their previously unheard voices and express their alienation from a society that oppresses them through the toxic male patriarchal hierarchy and via cruelly exploitative capitalistic greed
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Good thing you applied the blue font
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Who teaches that?
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I grew up in a Baptist church. I recall the pastor saying one time that the wine they drank had so little alcohol as to make it impossible to become drunk on it. I don't know where he got that from but it seemed like BS to me at the time.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
I grew up in a Baptist church. I recall the pastor saying one time that the wine they drank had so little alcohol as to make it impossible to become drunk on it. I don't know where he got that from but it seemed like BS to me at the time.
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Noah, for one, disagrees.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I don't give them a freakin' dime. I don't recognize much of anything about the place where I graduated, especially the football team. I give money to local charities, not to that place.
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I was thinking today of writing the chancellor and letting him/her/xi know just that. They aren't getting a dime from me. What is really funny is that my wife and I were thinking of setting up an education trust to help out for UT students. Not any more.
 
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DC_Vol said:
If I were this girl’s father, my first inclination would be to hire a team to find out who all was responsible for this decision (including the guy who releases the video) and dig through their pasts, interview old friends and classmates, and just see what turns up.
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How cool would that be if they could ruin Gilligan's life as well. Bonus.


Turd. (Him, not you)
 
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