Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

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Malaysia Airlines Expands Investigation To Include General Scope Of Space, Time

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Malaysia Airlines plane apparently flown deliberately toward Andamans, sources tell Reuters | NDTV.com

Kuala Lumpur: Military radar-tracking evidence suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown across the Malay peninsula towards the Andaman Islands, sources familiar with the investigation told Reuters on Friday.

Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints - indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training - when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.

The last plot on the military radar's tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India's Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.
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Malaysia's air force chief said on Wednesday an aircraft that could have been the missing plane was plotted on military radar at 2:15 a.m., 200 miles (320 km) northwest of Penang Island off Malaysia's west coast. (Aircraft off the radar in this age puzzles experts)

This position marks the limit of Malaysia's military radar in that part of the country, a fourth source familiar with the investigation told Reuters.
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In a far more detailed description of the military radar plotting than has been publicly revealed, the first two sources said the last confirmed position of MH370 was at 35,000 feet about 90 miles (144 km) off the east coast of Malaysia, heading towards Vietnam, near a navigational waypoint called "Igari". The time was 1:21 a.m.

The military track suggests it then turned sharply westwards, heading towards a waypoint called "Vampi", northeast of Indonesia's Aceh province and a navigational point used for planes following route N571 to the Middle East.

From there, the plot indicates the plane flew towards a waypoint called "Gival", south of the Thai island of Phuket, and was last plotted heading northwest towards another waypoint called "Igrex", on route P628 that would take it over the Andaman Islands and which carriers use to fly towards Europe. (A flight safety expert on what could have happened to missing Malaysian plane)

The time was then 2:15 a.m. That's the same time given by the air force chief on Wednesday, who gave no information on that plane's possible direction.

The sources said Malaysia was requesting raw radar data from neighbours Thailand, Indonesia and India, which has a naval base in the Andaman Islands.
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Here's my conspiracy theory for the day: the plane was hijacked and is now in possession of terrorists who also have a nuclear bomb. Since they don't have a missile system to deliver it, they needed a plane. They will be able to fly it close enough to a major city to detonate it before it is shot down. I do not necessarily think it will be used against the US, but I think this is going to be worst case scenario that the world hasn't experienced yet.
 
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lawgator1 said:
why would you kidnap 239 people and then not say anything about it for a week?
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because if getting your hands on a plane (delivery vehicle) is the intent the people simply don't matter. Plus publicizing that the plane is intact makes you a target
 
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lawgator1 said:
why would you kidnap 239 people and then not say anything about it for a week?
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Refer to reply above. Because they are not "people" as we see, they are infidels and sinners and carcasses to be slaughtered.

What part of these people are animals evades you? They probably would line the passengers up and behead them. Worse, things that would give you nightmares.

Barbaric and horrid? Yeah, nothing new here.

Why can't you see that rational and reason do not apply here.

It's like thinking you can talk a lion out of attacking you. You can't change what these radical Muslims think, they are who they are and what they are is needing the treatment and deaths they love to dole out. You can't change them, you need only remove them from this earth.
 
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So if terrorists have it for a delivery system, where would they fly it to attack? Some part of Russia maybe? India?
 
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utvolpj said:
I hope you don't mean my post since I included no crazy Mooslim hysteria

the fact is that anyone looking to get their hands on an object for a secret operation would ignore the people involved to get it.
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The post- yes -but just to elude to the fact that the delivery tool would be kept quiet and serve no purpose if made public. They aren't seeking ransom, just the tool for delivery.

But, if this were the case probability puts it as Muslims.
 
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lawgator1 said:
why would you kidnap 239 people and then not say anything about it for a week?
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Because if you are going to use the plane as a guided missile (which seems to be the trending theory) having hostages on board, even a few might give a nation pause for thought at shooting it down. Not saying that makes sense, but perhaps these terrorists have watched too many movies.

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because if getting your hands on a plane (delivery vehicle) is the intent the people simply don't matter. Plus publicizing that the plane is intact makes you a target
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Difference being, I don't think the US would be a target in this scenario. Way out of position in the world to strike at anything within the Continental US. So I'd figure the target is international if there is one.

The other thing that will be a consideration would be the fact that a 777 zipping along towards Tel Aviv or wherever is going to get noticed. And even if it's repainted (we're stretching here) folks are going to connect the dots quickly.
 
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davethevol said:
Here's my conspiracy theory for the day: the plane was hijacked and is now in possession of terrorists who also have a nuclear bomb. Since they don't have a missile system to deliver it, they needed a plane. They will be able to fly it close enough to a major city to detonate it before it is shot down. I do not necessarily think it will be used against the US, but I think this is going to be worst case scenario that the world hasn't experienced yet.
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It would be so much easier to just buy a plane to do what you are saying. It is one thing to do an immediate event ala 9/11 to cause terror, but for a prolonged event this isn't the way to go. At this point everyone in the world is looking for this plane, which isn't the best way to run a convert op like you suggest.
 
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YorkVol said:
It would be so much easier to just buy a plane to do what you are saying. It is one thing to do an immediate event ala 9/11 to cause terror, but for a prolonged event this isn't the way to go. At this point everyone in the world is looking for this plane, which isn't the best way to run a convert op like you suggest.
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3 weeks tops then the search is called off and they declare it lost at sea. How much does an operational 777 cost?
 
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hog88 said:
3 weeks tops then the search is called off and they declare it lost at sea. How much does an operational 777 cost?
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$250+ million for the brand new airframe.

For a used airliner, you are probably looking at high eight figures, low nine depending on conditions.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Along with many of the posters here.
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I was watching Hannity last night or night before, don't remember which. Anyway, one of the talking heads was discussing all the conspiracy theories popping up about what is going on with MH370. And he said he would like to be able to discount some of the more absurd ones, but can't because of the utter and complete lack of evidence.
 
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hog88 said:
So cheaper to make an attempt to steal?
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You wouldn't need a 777 to transport a nuke. Even a crude model would be able to fit into a much smaller plane.

Point York was trying to make is if you can afford to bankroll making a nuclear device, you can probably afford to buy some type of cargo plane capable of moving it. Plus, it would be a whole lot easier to buy a plane that nobody is looking for compared to stealing one of the size of a 777 that everyone is looking for.
 
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