Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

[BearCat204]

You and this nuke theory...

Someone asked before, where did they get this nuke from?

Duh, where you get everything from......Target

 

[davethevol]

I finally got approved for an EBT card, so I'm set for life. No more work for me.

I don't know. It seems like having to get up off the couch and actually go use that EBT card requires a lot of effort.

 

[Burhead]

Duh, where you get everything from......Target

I prefer to buy my nukes at Wal-Mart. I really love there low prices.

 

[davethevol]

You and this nuke theory...

Someone asked before, where did they get this nuke from?

Pakistan, North Korea, or possibly even Russia. It's really not that far fetched.

 

[lawgator1]

Has anyone explicitly blamed this Administration? (except you even in an offhand joking manner)

Has anyone explicitly gone out of their way to say "it's the liberals fault!" except in a joking manner?

So why are you zeroing in on the "neocon movement" and attempting to turn this into a left vs right thread?

Oh, I see what you mean.

Well, I guess that my impression was that there was this string of posts, mostly by VM but not exclusively so, that seemed to be promoting the terrorism angle and in fact giving others a hard time if they had some other theory.

But in any event we digress...

To the merits: I still don't see merit to the theory that it was "stolen" for use as in 9/11 at some later date. The effort to steal a commercial jetliner, deal with the 239 people on board, then hide it, then get it back in the air at some point in the future, and have it casually fly into a building or deliver some terrible weapon, seems incredibly far fetched, relative to easier ways to accomplish the same thing.

Kidnap the 239 people on board for ransom? Possible. But we'd have heard by now. So like Septic my thinking right now is its in the ocean somewhere.

 

[BearCat204]

I prefer to buy my nukes at Wal-Mart. I really love there low prices.

They get you in the door with those damn falling prices

 

[BearCat204]

Pakistan, North Korea, or possibly even Russia. It's really not that far fetched.

Aren't you the one who thought we could use a "smart bomb" to take out a single guard at a concentration camp?

 

[Burhead]

They get you in the door with those damn falling prices

Yeah but they are probably those cheap Chinese knock-offs though.

 

[Grand Vol]

Yeah but they are probably those cheap Chinese knock-offs though.

I tried to get the Chinese bomb, but it was being closely guarded by these men:

 

[davethevol]

Aren't you the one who thought we could use a "smart bomb" to take out a single guard at a concentration camp?

That's not even remotely close to what I said and half-seriously suggested.

 

[Velo Vol]

Pakistan, North Korea, or possibly even Russia. It's really not that far fetched.

Just roll up ye 777 to the loading dock at Pyongyang, and pick up your nuclear weapon.

 

[YorkVol]

I'm still thinking they should be looking at the Pilot's connection to the opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, who was convicted of sodomy in what is reportedly a political ploy to prevent him from running for office.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/w...ion-leader-sentenced-in-sodomy-case.html?_r=0

This has been going on for some time and we know the pilot was a strong supporter of Ibrahim.

('Fanatical' missing Malaysia Airlines plane pilot pictured wearing political T-shirt | Mail Online)

So, what if he planned on flying into a target in KL as a political protest? That could possibly explain the turning off of the transponder, communications, etc.

What if the co-pilot figured out what he was doing and fought for control of the plane? That could explain the erratic flight path.

What if the fight left them incapacitated, or left the plane in some condition that it couldn't be turned off its final course? Perhaps they were locked in the cockpit, the pilot dead and the co-pilot unable to do anything other than point the plane in a direction away from populated areas before he succumbed to his injuries.

This is just more speculation, but it makes as much sense as the terrorist angle.

Would a Malaysian pilot who supported an opposition leader accused of sodomy really turn into a jihadist?

 

[Grand Vol]

Would a Malaysian pilot who supported an opposition leader accused of sodomy really turn into a jihadist?

Jihadist, no. But a terrorist, yes. Taking a plane full of passengers for a political reason no matter what boils down to terrorism.

 

[davethevol]

Jihadist, no. But a terrorist, yes. Taking a plane full of passengers for a political reason no matter what boils down to terrorism.

Nah, it's just workplace aggression. No biggie.

 

[YorkVol]

Jihadist, no. But a terrorist, yes. Taking a plane full of passengers for a political reason no matter what boils down to terrorism.

I see a difference between terrorism and political protest. A one-time act of protest, even one where you kill a plane load of passengers, may not be terrorism if there is no intent from others to do it again.

 

[Grand Vol]

Nah, it's just workplace aggression. No biggie.

So is this opposition leader a hardcore radical Muslim? Has he issued any fatwas condemning anyone not Islamic? Was the trial because he was a Muslim or because he was a political threat to those in power?

Is the fact the pilot is Muslim the compounding factor here? Which is the point that York was making. And beyond conjecture at this point, nothing suggests radical Islamic terrorism being the prime motivator behind the disappearance of this airliner. Because we have no information either way.

 

[Grand Vol]

I see a difference between terrorism and political protest. A one-time act of protest, even one where you kill a plane load of passengers, may not be terrorism if there is no intent from others to do it again.

Excluding a lone wolf scenario where the pilot decided to end it all in a blaze of glory and take as many people with him as evidence of his dedication to the cause. Or in this case the jailed opposition leader.

It still fits the classical definition of terrorism. Depending greatly on your outlook of course.

 

[BearCat204]

That's not even remotely close to what I said and half-seriously suggested.

Oh, I must have misunderstood

 

[davethevol]

Oh, I must have misunderstood

That never happens on the internet where every poster's intent true intent is apparent on all postings. Odd.

 

[BearCat204]

That never happens on the internet where every poster's intent true intent is apparent on all postings. Odd.

mind=blown

 

[davethevol]

mind=blown

I just went all jihad on your thought process. Allah Akbar!!

 

[InVOLuntary]

So is this opposition leader a hardcore radical Muslim? Has he issued any fatwas condemning anyone not Islamic? Was the trial because he was a Muslim or because he was a political threat to those in power?

Is the fact the pilot is Muslim the compounding factor here? Which is the point that York was making. And beyond conjecture at this point, nothing suggests radical Islamic terrorism being the prime motivator behind the disappearance of this airliner. Because we have no information either way.

Isn't homosexuality a huge no no to Muslims? I think being a Jihadist using terrorism to protest injustice to a homosexual might have conflicts within themselves.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Isn't homosexuality a huge no no to Muslims? I think being a Jihadist using terrorism to protest injustice to a homosexual might have conflicts within themselves.

Not really. It is quite the norm for MANY of them..but they don't like to be referred to as homosexuals. To them its just a hobby..something to do when they aren't raping their 12 year old wife.

 

[Grand Vol]

Isn't homosexuality a huge no no to Muslims? I think being a Jihadist using terrorism to protest injustice to a homosexual might have conflicts within themselves.

Sodomy is a reasonably vague term, so it might not be homosexuality.

But you are correct that it is a conflict.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Sodomy is a reasonably vague term, so it might not be homosexuality.

But you are correct that it is a conflict.

I think I read or saw something where it was a homosexual relationship.