Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

[Grand Vol]

I think I read or saw something where it was a homosexual relationship.

Honestly didn't know that.

But it's not like I would trust a Malaysian justice system to put someone up on some trumped up charges just to get them out of the way. So no telling if it's true or not.

 

[Velo Vol]

I see a difference between terrorism and political protest. A one-time act of protest, even one where you kill a plane load of passengers, may not be terrorism if there is no intent from others to do it again.

I don't consider a person who "snaps" and goes on a mass killing spree to be a terrorist if he has no larger societal objective.

Flying a plane into the ocean, ramming a car into a crowd of people, school shooter, whatever.

 

[BearCat204]

Isn't homosexuality a huge no no to Muslims? I think being a Jihadist using terrorism to protest injustice to a homosexual might have conflicts within themselves.

VM has more in common with radical Islamist than he really knows

 

[BearCat204]

Not really. It is quite the norm for MANY of them..but they don't like to be referred to as homosexuals. To them its just a hobby..something to do when they aren't raping their 12 year old wife.

This really isnt true, however, I dont know a ton of Muslims, only going by what their religious beliefs say

 

[UTVOLFAN]

Not really. It is quite the norm for MANY of them..

Says who?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Honestly didn't know that.

But it's not like I would trust a Malaysian justice system to put someone up on some trumped up charges just to get them out of the way. So no telling if it's true or not.

True.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I realize this is Wikipedia but anyway:
Anwar Ibrahim sodomy trials - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[InVOLuntary]

And here's a BBC article:
BBC News - Malaysia jails Anwar Ibrahim for five years for sodomy

 

[Velo Vol]

Says who?

nakedmuslims.com, probably.

 

[ATC_VOL]

So could I fly a 777 from overseas somewhere into NYC and announce my intentions to ATC. Recieve instructions from ATC. Follow said instructions, and land the plane?

I doubt NY center has time to deal with an IFR pickup and obviously a plane that big would raise some flags. But in theory yes.

The whole process of squawking a code and being radar identified is the same for any aircraft domestically.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Evidently, homosexuality is very frowned upon for Muslims. It ranges in penaties from floggings to jail time to even death if the jurist is radical enough. Here's a good read:
Homosexuality And Islam - What Does Islam Say About Homosexuality

 

[InVOLuntary]

I doubt NY center has time to deal with an IFR pickup and obviously a plane that big would raise some flags. But in theory yes.

The whole process of squawking a code and being radar identified is the same for any aircraft.

Well what would be the indicator to ATC that the plane was not legitimate? Could they just file a flight plan?

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Aren't you the one who thought we could use a "smart bomb" to take out a single guard at a concentration camp?

That's not even remotely close to what I said and half-seriously suggested.

It is exactly what you suggested until several folks started making fun of you.

 

[ATC_VOL]

Well what would be the indicator to ATC that the plane was not legitimate? Could they just file a flight plan?

I don't know how you'd go about filing a flight plan with a stolen plane, since you have to use the tail number.

But as far as having an aircraft call you off the ground somewhere, there really isn't a way to know they're someone different than what they're telling you unless they're acting suspicious, or you've already been giving information that something is peculiar with the aircraft/pilot.

It is somewhat common for smaller GA planes to be stolen. Most of those thieves are smart enough to not call ATC though. A random primary target flying around isn't really suspicious though, unless it was near a major airport/city where aircraft are required to talk to ATC.

 

[YorkVol]

Evidently, homosexuality is very frowned upon for Muslims. It ranges in penaties from floggings to jail time to even death if the jurist is radical enough. Here's a good read:
Homosexuality And Islam - What Does Islam Say About Homosexuality

They invented don't ask, don't tell.

 

[Grand Vol]

They invented don't ask, don't tell.

Bill Clinton is a Muslim?

 

[davethevol]

It is exactly what you suggested until several folks started making fun of you.

Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I never suggested using a smart bomb to take out a single guard.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't know how you'd go about filing a flight plan with a stolen plane, since you have to use the tail number.

But as far as having an aircraft call you off the ground somewhere, there really isn't a way to know they're someone different than what they're telling you unless they're acting suspicious, or you've already been giving information that something is peculiar with the aircraft/pilot.

It is somewhat common for smaller GA planes to be stolen. Most of those thieves are smart enough to not call ATC though. A random primary target flying around isn't really suspicious though, unless it was near a major airport/city where aircraft are required to talk to ATC.

Thanks. I have been working on my private for a few years now. Need to finish it up. I was about to do my cross country flights and ironically we discovered the transponder wasn't transmitting and we hadbto postpone the flights until it was repaired and I have since dropped the ball. Planning on trying to finish before summer.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I don't know how you'd go about filing a flight plan with a stolen plane, since you have to use the tail number.

But as far as having an aircraft call you off the ground somewhere, there really isn't a way to know they're someone different than what they're telling you unless they're acting suspicious, or you've already been giving information that something is peculiar with the aircraft/pilot.

It is somewhat common for smaller GA planes to be stolen. Most of those thieves are smart enough to not call ATC though. A random primary target flying around isn't really suspicious though, unless it was near a major airport/city where aircraft are required to talk to ATC.

^ This. We had some guys do a parachute jump and form a big triangle one time..it popped up on our radar scopes. No one really freaked out. Any time we have something odd flying around that no one knows what it is we just make a recording of the radar data and send it for analysis. Transponders have codes one can squawk for various situations such as emergency, radio failure, and highjack. I am also certain you can select an aircraft and assign it a SA code which is suspect aircraft..not 100% on that one I just see it pop up when we run tests on our system.

Planes come in through fixes..vectored through certain parts of the air. The air space is chopped up into levels. If an aircraft is flying through a vector it shouldn't be someone will probably notice. As the aircraft pass through the radar scopes air traffic controllers tag them up and it has their initials. As the plane exits their range they pass that plane off to another air traffic controller. A plane not flying IFR without a tag will be suspicious.

 

[YorkVol]

Bill Clinton is a Muslim?

I think he read "7 Pillars" by TE Lawrence...

 

[Obsessed]

Bill Clinton is a Muslim?

I found out some more info on them today.

Edited so the NSA doesn't show up

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Obviously reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I never suggested using a smart bomb to take out a single guard.

No, you said "guards". However, that doesn't make it any less stupid. But, by all means, please continue to defend moronic statements. Volmaverick can give you some advice in that area. I'm sure you discussed the topic thoroughly in one of your many War College papers.

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Come on guys, give us more conspiracies. We're going to solve this.

 

[Velo Vol]

Meteor.

 

[Toujours Pret]

Come on guys, give us more conspiracies. We're going to solve this.

I think the fact that queen Elizabeth I was possibly a she male might have something to do with it.