Mitch Mustain...

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If this happens, one good thing is Mustain is a real good scrambler. I believe he is around a 4.6 forty with decent moves.
 
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Hahaha...whew. This thread wins. "Experience is not critical for any position". I guess that's why most employers only want new grads. Oh, wait a minute...
 
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obviously you dont know what it means. If something is critical it means you absolutely can not do without it. If you can find me one position on the football field that a freshman has never done well at, i will admit I was wrong and you were right.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
obviously you dont know what it means. If something is critical it means you absolutely can not do without it. If you can find me one position on the football field that a freshman has never done well at, i will admit I was wrong and you were right.
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I'll tell you this, none of these freshmen are in a position to contribute hugely right away because none of them come in as world beaters. So this year, experience is critical. You speak in absolutes like because one freshman comes in and dominates that means every single freshman can. They can't. The next time you try to be a smartass, think before you speak.
 
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lylsmorr said:
I'll tell you this, none of these freshmen are in a position to contribute hugely right away because none of them come in as world beaters. So this year, experience is critical. You speak in absolutes like because one freshman comes in and dominates that means every single freshman can. They can't. The next time you try to be a smartass, think before you speak.
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I would argue that if you think JuJuan James doesn't have a chance to come in as a true freshman and make an impact than you are speaking out of your ass. This kid was a great talent coming out and one of the more polished OL prospects in the country. Next to Seantrel Henderson I would put JJ as the most likely freshman to make an impact on the OL in the country.
 
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abb4 said:
I would argue that if you think JuJuan James doesn't have a chance to come in as a true freshman and make an impact than you are speaking out of your ass. This kid was a great talent coming out and one of the more polished OL prospects in the country. Next to Seantrel Henderson I would put JJ as the most likely freshman to make an impact on the OL in the country.
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So JJ isn't going to make his fair share of rookie mistakes when he plays in front of the huge crowds and the talent in the SEC? James is oh so talented, but he's not on the level E. Berry was coming in when he contributed.
 
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lylsmorr said:
So JJ isn't going to make his fair share of rookie mistakes when he plays in front of the huge crowds and the talent in the SEC? James is oh so talented, but he's not on the level E. Berry was coming in when he contributed.
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Nobody is claiming the he is, but if you think EB was the only ever true freshman we have had contribute then you are nuts. Sure the kid will make mistakes, but so did EB as late as last year. Fact of the matter is an EE true freshman with good size and incredible talent has a chance of making as good (or more) of a contribution than a more experienced player with less talent. PERIOD
 
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this is so dumb. These guys are acting like freshmen only come in and play well every once in awhile. IT happens every year all over the country at every position. I would much rather have young talented inexperienced offensive lineman than experienced offensive lineman that cant play.
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KiffinKiller said:
So the old poster on ESPN i've quoted a couple of times thus far (works in athletic department - admissions i think) confirms Mustain has some interest in UT.

However, with the rule against seniors transfering to the SEC - this will not be confirmed until the appeal goes through. He is in no way a UT lock, but he has shown interest and spoken to staff.

So if the stars align (i.e. appeal goes through and Mitch decides on UT) then expect him to be behind center!
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hopr he's right would love to see MM on the roster
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
this is so dumb. These guys are acting like freshmen only come in and play well every once in awhile. IT happens every year all over the country at every position. I would much rather have young talented inexperienced offensive lineman than experienced offensive lineman that cant play.
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Just stop.
 
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abb4 said:
Nobody is claiming the he is, but if you think EB was the only ever true freshman we have had contribute then you are nuts. Sure the kid will make mistakes, but so did EB as late as last year. Fact of the matter is an EE true freshman with good size and incredible talent has a chance of making as good (or more) of a contribution than a more experienced player with less talent. PERIOD
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i disagree. real game experience is HUGE. especially in a league like the SEC. SEC dlinemen are going to come out and smack frosh around like theyve never felt before. but as they gain experience and gel together over time, they will become much better. but expecting them to come out and be amazing or even good is only going to be a let down. Fact of the matter is that they will start because we just dont have anyone else.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
this is so dumb. These guys are acting like freshmen only come in and play well every once in awhile. IT happens every year all over the country at every position. I would much rather have young talented inexperienced offensive lineman than experienced offensive lineman that cant play.
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We arent going to put experienced OL that "cant play" out on the field. thats why we will have true frosh playing! but if we had some experienced OL that "could play" you can be damn sure theyd be out there before the frosh. your arguing about whether Frosh EVER PLAY and you are the only one arguing about it. no one denies that freshmen make impacts on teams allll the time! we are just telling you that if you are expecting them to come out and be great OL right off the bat, you are going to be very disappointed!
 
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im expecting them to come in and be above average offensive lineman in the sec immediately. When people say stuff like "experience is critical" either you dont know what the word critical means or you are saying that freshman dont come in and play well. When people are astounded that i would say that dozens of freshman offensive lineman come in and play well every yr they dont know what they are talking about.
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
im expecting them to come in and be above average offensive lineman in the sec immediately. When people say stuff like "experience is critical" either you dont know what the word critical means or you are saying that freshman dont come in and play well. When people are astounded that i would say that dozens of freshman offensive lineman come in and play well every yr they dont know what they are talking about.
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I think that major point that you're missing is that those "dozens" of freshmen offensive lineman that start and play well are usually the only freshmen on their line. We'll be starting possibly 3 and the other guys have little to no game experience. Freshman CAN be good, but they're usually surrounded by experienced juniors and seniors. Name one line in the past 15 years that started 3 freshman and was good. Go ahead... I'll wait.
 
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So, anyways.....yeah, Mitch Mustain!

Since Cam Newton is at Auburn I find it doubtful things would end well if Mustain transferred there. If he wants to get back in to the SEC in a place where he'd be the instant starter--Tennessee is the way to go.

Now, if only we can get past that Senior transfer rule.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
im expecting them to come in and be above average offensive lineman in the sec immediately. When people say stuff like "experience is critical" either you dont know what the word critical means or you are saying that freshman dont come in and play well. When people are astounded that i would say that dozens of freshman offensive lineman come in and play well every yr they dont know what they are talking about.
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Dozens huh?

There are 120 FBS schools. 5 starting OL per school.

That would be 600 OL. Out of that 600, "dozens" of freshmen play well.

So what, 24 freshmen play well?

Please name some of the "dozens"
 
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