'22 Mitchell Agude (UCLA Transfer)

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jvols1999 said:
I DEFINITELY don't think we are failing at everything, but it takes a special brand of orange kool aid to think we've done well in the portal so far this cycle and haven't specifically whiffed on the DL. Doesn't mean we can't fix it, but objectively we've got a very low batting average so far.
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It happens when you're being selective. There's a very real chance we fail to address all of our areas of concern, BUT, it's not from lack of trying, and it's better to only target players we think can make a difference rather than taking a flyer and wasting a scholarship. I still think we were hurt by not being able to participate in the transfer market as much before this semester, but if it gets possible sanctions out of the way, it was worth it. Just sucks we couldn't chase after more players. All that said, I trust the coaches. We may just have to patchwork some spots with guys already on the roster and hope for the best. Going forward, we hopefully won't be handicapped by the same sanction limitations.

And personally, I still have hope of maybe seeing a couple of other guys hit the portal before May 1st. Maybe we need to encourage our guys to call some friends at other schools...
 
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jvols1999 said:
I DEFINITELY don't think we are failing at everything, but it takes a special brand of orange kool aid to think we've done well in the portal so far this cycle and haven't specifically whiffed on the DL. Doesn't mean we can't fix it, but objectively we've got a very low batting average so far.
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I am just looking at all of this as a fan who knows far less than the coaches. I am talking about me and not anyone else. We have already witnessed what money can do. If they want someone they will go hard after them and that batting average will rise. I know we haven’t plucked the portal to the bone but I think we will get the best that the coaches can get and I will be ok with it.
 
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jvols1999 said:
I DEFINITELY don't think we are failing at everything, but it takes a special brand of orange kool aid to think we've done well in the portal so far this cycle and haven't specifically whiffed on the DL. Doesn't mean we can't fix it, but objectively we've got a very low batting average so far.
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The sad part of most the dudes they are saying Tennessee “failed” on or “whiffed” on didn’t even really give Tennessee a chance. Can’t be mad at the staff when a dude wouldn’t even give them an opportunity and come visit campus. Doesn’t mean that they haven’t missed but it’s not as bad as some make it.
 
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NoogaVol96 said:
The sad part of most the dudes they are saying Tennessee “failed” on or “whiffed” on didn’t even really give Tennessee a chance. Can’t be mad at the staff when a dude wouldn’t even give them an opportunity and come visit campus. Doesn’t mean that they haven’t missed but it’s not as bad as some make it.
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Sorry, but that's not an accurate description of how this has gone.

Verse came to campus. Robinson came to campus. And Agude was planning on coming to campus but shut it down after completing 3 of his previously scheduled visits. And that's just the DL. We also obviously had Neyor on campus too.

It's also not a case of us being selective but batting a high average. We've tried with a handful of others (the WF RB who went to the Cocks, the NW Safety who went to ND come to mind right off the bat).

It is what it is. I love the addition of Walker in the secondary. And I'm incredibly pumped about the very likely addition of McCoy at WR - he's arguably a better talent than Neyor. And further, I really like the 2022 class and was already super bullish about the 2023 class even before we landed Nico. But so far, in the 2022 portal cycle, specifically at DL/Edge, we've whiffed so far. Hopefully we can find another option soon.
 
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NoogaVol96 said:
The sad part of most the dudes they are saying Tennessee “failed” on or “whiffed” on didn’t even really give Tennessee a chance. Can’t be mad at the staff when a dude wouldn’t even give them an opportunity and come visit campus. Doesn’t mean that they haven’t missed but it’s not as bad as some make it.
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I see both sides of the argument. It's frustrating when it seems we were eliminated before the process even began, but at the same time, it's up to the coaches to reach out and sell the program. In this case, it's baffling that someone like Agude wouldn't hear RG out. But whatever. No staff gets everyone they want, not even Saban. You do your best to fill the roster spots with difference makers, then make do with what you have. We're still in a building process.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You do realize the portal goes on during the summer right?
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There are still deadlines that mark eligibility as to whether or not someone can play next year. I'm guessing there's still a waiver process, but I'm also guessing that waivers may be harder to obtain since clear deadlines have been established.
 
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jvols1999 said:
Sorry, but that's not an accurate description of how this has gone.

Verse came to campus. Robinson came to campus. And Agude was planning on coming to campus but shut it down after completing 3 of his previously scheduled visits. And that's just the DL. We also obviously had Neyor on campus too.

It's also not a case of us being selective but batting a high average. We've tried with a handful of others (the WF RB who went to the Cocks, the NW Safety who went to ND come to mind right off the bat).

It is what it is. I love the addition of Walker in the secondary. And I'm incredibly pumped about the very likely addition of McCoy at WR - he's arguably a better talent than Neyor. And further, I really like the 2022 class and was already super bullish about the 2023 class even before we landed Nico. But so far, in the 2022 portal cycle, specifically at DL/Edge, we've whiffed so far. Hopefully we can find another option soon.
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It would’ve helped if I stated I was speaking on the portal as a whole rather than just the DL. I’ve just seen too many people pointing fingers at the staff on some guys who never seem to as interested in Tennessee as the staff was them. I do agree that Tennessee has had their fair share of misses and I stated that in the previous post. I could be wrong but I can’t help but think that the amount of time the defense was on the field last season is playing a roll into this with several other factors.
 
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jvols1999 said:
Sorry, but that's not an accurate description of how this has gone.

Verse came to campus. Robinson came to campus. And Agude was planning on coming to campus but shut it down after completing 3 of his previously scheduled visits. And that's just the DL. We also obviously had Neyor on campus too.

It's also not a case of us being selective but batting a high average. We've tried with a handful of others (the WF RB who went to the Cocks, the NW Safety who went to ND come to mind right off the bat).

It is what it is. I love the addition of Walker in the secondary. And I'm incredibly pumped about the very likely addition of McCoy at WR - he's arguably a better talent than Neyor. And further, I really like the 2022 class and was already super bullish about the 2023 class even before we landed Nico. But so far, in the 2022 portal cycle, specifically at DL/Edge, we've whiffed so far. Hopefully we can find another option soon.
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I think about: on the surface, absolutely, it looks like we are getting it handed to us at the portal...4 to 6 misses, and that might very well be so, strange and unlikely as I find it; but, as I've said, the guys we have "missed" on, Evans, Verse, this dude...what if we just didn't feel like, in the end, none were/are worth what they may have asked? De1 said the offer to Evans was laughable; I believe him, whenever I factor in what Evans probably believes he's worth and got...Heupel and co just didn't think so. Move on, both sides.

Yeah, last year, I would have definitely said we missed, whiffed, lost out...it's not last year.
Tennessee is a hot school right now, very hot; and, what we do not have as far as wins and losses and success the last 20 years, NIL has balanced that out in a MASSIVE way, and it sounds like we are showing the kids WE WANT, that we have as much money and stroke as anyone. That, coupled with 1st year success on the field, and Huepel and staff...I just find it hard to believe, someone would pick FSU, even Texas and maybe Washington over us...all of that and more, plus the added value of playing time in the SEC...I find it hard to believe ALL these guys said no thanks. I believe we did, at least with some of them.
 
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I really hope we can find some secondary help.Half them boys are out for spring and aint no Taylor or Theo coming back.Man Jackson was sick in that Star position hell be missed.Wish we had gotten those kids went to Auburn Def would feel alot better.Its been 84 yrs since we landed a stud secondary player it feels like.
 
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TitanicVolz said:
I really hope we can find some secondary help.Half them boys are out for spring and aint no Taylor or Theo coming back.Man Jackson was sick in that Star position hell be missed.Wish we had gotten those kids went to Auburn Def would feel alot better.Its been 84 yrs since we landed a stud secondary player it feels like.
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I really wish we’d gotten Gilbert. I want a ball hawking safety.
 
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TitanicVolz said:
I really hope we can find some secondary help.Half them boys are out for spring and aint no Taylor or Theo coming back.Man Jackson was sick in that Star position hell be missed.Wish we had gotten those kids went to Auburn Def would feel alot better.Its been 84 yrs since we landed a stud secondary player it feels like.
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I'm not saying he's going to make you forget Theo, but Brandon Turnage will make you almost forget Theo.
 
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