MLB Playoffs

#126
#126
I am, after all, the guy who sat up and watched that meaningless 22 (or whatever) inning game played between Colorado and San Diego this spring. Which didn't even start until 10 pm eastern. You can't quit on an extra inning game.
 
#127
#127
Vercingetorix said:
I am, after all, the guy who sat up and watched that meaningless 22 (or whatever) inning game played between Colorado and San Diego this spring. Which didn't even start until 10 pm eastern. You can't quit on an extra inning game.
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exactly. Cause no matter how boring innings 10-15 are, inning 16 is exciting when someone scores a run in the weirdest way possible. If it goes past 16 innings, you have the chance to see some 5th outfielder pitch and that is guaranteed good times.
 
#132
#132
Yeah, this is the American League. Good thing there's another one (beer) backing it up.

I am fine with the Red Sox scoring TWO runs. Not one.
 
#133
#133
volfanbill said:
awwww. sorry doozer. I guess it was a lot different for me seeing I've been preparing for Oakland-less baseball since July.
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what sucks is that this was the best Cubs team of my lifetime, possibly excluding 84, but i was 4. and yeah, i know it's the Cubs and that means yadda yadda yaddy...

i was going to write something like this, regardless of the season outcome, so here goes...

i have loyally followed this team for years, and maybe its misery is what i deserve for that. but what is a kid to do when he doesn't know any different than coming from school and watching the Cubs with his old man, like, every day?

from Steve Stone i learned the game of baseball from a strategical standpoint. from Harry Carry i learned that baseball is fun and not to be taken too seriously.

when i played sports, i wore 23 (occasionally i had to be/was either 2 or 3). and i was probably the only kid who wasn't wearing 23 because of Michael Jordan. hell, i'm probably the only person, who, when asked what first comes to your mind when you hear '23' and 'Chicago', won't say MJ. i even played second base. when i made the all-star little league team, i asked for, and recieved, my own pair of flip up sunglasses, just like Ryno:

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i suffered through years and years watching guys like Candy Maldanato, Damon Berryhill, Paul Assemacher, Les Lancaster (my second favorite all time cub), Andre Dawson, The Sarge, Dave Martinez and the list goes on...

and i've cheered with the same passion when guys like Mark Grace and Joe Girardi got theirs on other teams.

the one thing i take away from this, and the one hope i have, is the plight of the Red Sox. it wasn't like Boston showed up in the postseason and took the prize home on their first try. i mean i can already tell my grandfather when i see him again that at least i was alive to see Cubs back-to-back divisional crowns.

maybe one day it will happen after all the pain and misery like it did for Boston.

until then, well, there's always next year...

end :cray: .
 
#135
#135
nice post doozer. I definitely don't question your fanhood, but I do tire of hearing about the Cubs fans' suffering. They'll pull it out one day, that's for sure.

Anyways, Angels live to see another day. Goodnight Nation.
 
#136
#136
doozer said:
what sucks is that this was the best Cubs team of my lifetime, possibly excluding 84, but i was 4. and yeah, i know it's the Cubs and that means yadda yadda yaddy...
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That 84 team was pretty fun to watch. Sandberg and Sutcliffe and the Penguin and the Bull and the Fireballer. A shame you missed out on it.
 
#137
#137
volfanbill said:
nice post doozer. I definitely don't question your fanhood, but I do tire of hearing about the Cubs fans' suffering. They'll pull it out one day, that's for sure.

Anyways, Angels live to see another day. Goodnight Nation.
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our suffering is all we have to talk about. i'd love to spend my time talking about the wins and the magical moments. but losing is all i have. it's all we, as Cubs fans have. what else can we talk about?

and don't worry. that was a post was about venting.
 
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#138
Vercingetorix said:
That 84 team was pretty fun to watch. Sandberg and Sutcliffe and the Penguin and the Bull and the Fireballer. A shame you missed out on it.
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i know all about them. it's probably better, though, that i don't recall living through the debacle.
 
#139
#139
What I don't get about Cubs fans -- and I don't mean this as a shot at all; just simply that I don't understand it -- is that so many of them seem eager to just borrow misery from the past. Red Sox fans were exactly the same before a few ago. I mean, since your average 30-year-old Cubs fan was old enough to really know much about baseball, only about half the teams in the majors have won a title. I don't quite get why the extra 80 years of failure before that is personally relevant to the modern fan.

I can see it if you grow up there, watching games with your dad and your grandad, and you somewhat internalize their own decades of suffering into yourself. But still -- the Giants haven't won a title since they moved to San Francisco in the 50s. The Indians haven't won one since Truman was in the White House. The Padres and the Brewers and the Astros have all been around for 40 years or so and they've never won one. Today's Cubs fans never met anybody who watched all the pre-World War II years; why do those extra decades hang on them so much more heavily than fans of the Giants, the Padres, the Brewers, etc.?

Unless, of course, the romance of failure is part of the allure in rooting for the team. In which case it seems sort of like dating a stripper and then being pissed off because she's slept with a lot of guys.
 
#140
#140
As I said, I don't mean it as a shot at all. I genuinely don't understand it.

Also, the Indians are probably a bad example. They have the whole Cleveland thing hanging over them. Heck, being a Browns fan is probably worse than being a Cubs fan all by itself.
 
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#141
#141
Vercingetorix said:
What I don't get about Cubs fans -- and I don't mean this as a shot at all; just simply that I don't understand it -- is that so many of them seem eager to just borrow misery from the past. Red Sox fans were exactly the same before a few ago. I mean, since your average 30-year-old Cubs fan was old enough to really know much about baseball, only about half the teams in the majors have won a title. I don't quite get why the extra 80 years of failure before that is personally relevant to the modern fan.

I can see it if you grow up there, watching games with your dad and your grandad, and you somewhat internalize their own decades of suffering into yourself. But still -- the Giants haven't won a title since they moved to San Francisco in the 50s. The Indians haven't won one since Truman was in the White House. The Padres and the Brewers and the Astros have all been around for 40 years or so and they've never won one. Today's Cubs fans never met anybody who watched all the pre-World War II years; why do those extra decades hang on them so much more heavily than fans of the Giants, the Padres, the Brewers, etc.?

Unless, of course, the romance of failure is part of the allure in rooting for the team. In which case it seems sort of like dating a stripper and then being pissed off because she's slept with a lot of guys.
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Good post. As I said in another Cubs thread, Cubs fans are masochists.
 
#143
#143
Vercingetorix said:
What I don't get about Cubs fans -- and I don't mean this as a shot at all; just simply that I don't understand it -- is that so many of them seem eager to just borrow misery from the past. Red Sox fans were exactly the same before a few ago. I mean, since your average 30-year-old Cubs fan was old enough to really know much about baseball, only about half the teams in the majors have won a title. I don't quite get why the extra 80 years of failure before that is personally relevant to the modern fan.

I can see it if you grow up there, watching games with your dad and your grandad, and you somewhat internalize their own decades of suffering into yourself. But still -- the Giants haven't won a title since they moved to San Francisco in the 50s. The Indians haven't won one since Truman was in the White House. The Padres and the Brewers and the Astros have all been around for 40 years or so and they've never won one. Today's Cubs fans never met anybody who watched all the pre-World War II years; why do those extra decades hang on them so much more heavily than fans of the Giants, the Padres, the Brewers, etc.?

Unless, of course, the romance of failure is part of the allure in rooting for the team. In which case it seems sort of like dating a stripper and then being pissed off because she's slept with a lot of guys.
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because when the only thing you have is misery, you want it to be better than everybody elses team's misery. more miserable, if you will.

might as well be the best at something.

knowing what i know now as a kid might have led me to another team, but when you're raised in Chicago baseball culture, and it's all you know, it makes it hard to stay away.

i would make the analogy that you leave a girl who takes advantage of you, but always return for more of the same, even when you know how the story ends because you're convinced this time is going to be different.
 
#144
#144
I get most of that....I just don't get why being a Cubs fan is supposed to be so much more agonizing than being, say, a Brewers fan. Lots of teams never ever EVER win.
 
#145
#145
Yea go Red Sox, the Rays are really good at home it will be a slugfest but I like the fact 20 of the Sox players have post season experience.
 
#150
#150
Vercingetorix said:
I didn't have a great look at the TV, but it looked to me like the catcher got the tag on the runner sufficiently well before the ball came out. No?
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Much like when a tag is made at home plate and the catcher drops the ball after the collision? Guess that's the only case of a continuation play in baseball.

Or how about if a player swipes at somebody with the ball in their mit and tags them but during the follow through, the ball comes out?

This brings back the A-Rod play as well, where he knocked the ball out of some red sux douche's glove at first base but was called out. Never understood how that differed from someone running over the catcher to try to jar the ball loose - or trying to kick the ball loose on a hard slide.
 
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