Monday Regional Finals discussion thread

[TheMookieMonster]

So, based on what we’ve read, do we have a better than or less than chance of being the Super host than Southern Miss?

Less based on what the national media wants you to believe

 

[CAVPUT]

Less based on what the national media wants you to believe

Don't discount the bid. Money talks and everyone always listens if it talks loudly enough.

 

[SGMVols]

Don't discount the bid. Money talks and everyone always listens if it talks loudly enough.

Southern Miss has a really nice stadium. They very well could win the bid.

 

[vol66]

One team you won't be seeing today, or anymore this season for that matter.



You hate to see it.


Vanderbilt baseball no longer has the talent to run college baseball

 

[Sudden Impact]

Knoxville vs Hattiesburg is the question along with the bid submission.
Great Recruiting tool @ either place.
It will be one of the better Super Regionals if it happens.
Does the NCAA want the Fanfare that Knoxville can provide.
As we have seen, the huge disadvantage for Tennessee is that the Fanbase can lay into the UMPs with words and distractions.
The NCAA may want a kindler-gentler approach and we are in the SEC.

 

[Weezer]

We are the more deserving team to host, but that doesn't mean the NCAA won't screw us.

 

[Putbacks]

But....decision still Penn-ding....

 

[GreveHaller]

SM coach retiring after the season. There’s your media feel good story. We won’t host

 

[CAVPUT]

SM coach retiring after the season. There’s your media feel good story. We won’t host

Oof....forgot about that variable. That's a biggie. Penn just needs to win this one. Then again maybe there's less pressure on this team on the road? Yeah, grasping at straws.

 

[fryeguy93]

No one knows.

The bids were sent in weeks ago so it's nothing we could do now.

Outside money, does the committee look at pre-regional resume or post-regional resume seems to be the biggest point.

The committee seemingly- and wrongly, had SoMiss as better team when regionals were decided. Maybe?

On 5/22/2023 Tennessee was #20 in RPI and Southern Miss was #21. Very close indeed. That was the Monday before the conference tourneys
In 6/5/2023 Tennessee is 12 and Southern Miss is #18 with the Eagles playing another game against #100 Penn (Penn is actually up 16 spots from last week) so a win against a team they already beat would not jump them ahead of Tennessee. In fact, Warren Nolan has them staying at 18 with a win against Penn.

...........................................Tennessee...........................Southern Miss
Overall. . . . . . . . . . . 41-19. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44-18
Home. . . . . . . . . . . 33-5l. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .26-5
Road. . . . . . . . . . .5-12. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12-10
Neutral. . . . . . . . . . . 3-2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-3
Conference. . . . . . . . 16-14. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15-8
Non Conf. . . . . . . . . . 22-4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .15-8
Post Season. . . . . . . . .3-1. . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . 7-2
Last 10 . . . . . . . . . . . .7-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8-2
RPI. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18
Non Conf RPI. . . . . . .39. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 63
SOS. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
Non Conf SOS. . . . . . 162. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .53
Tourney Teams. . . . . .16-12. . . . . . . . . . .. . . .13-6
ELO. . . . . . . . . . .. . . . 4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .13

Warren Nolan computer picks SoMiss to win 5-4 today (54% probability)

Obviously, Tennessee's SEC schedule explains every number above. Tennessee

Southern Miss against the SEC

2/28 n Miss. State 9-10 L
3/7 @ Ole Miss 5-11 L
4/11 @ Alabama 0-13 L
6/3 @ Auburn 7-2 W


Their biggest RPI boost is a home sweep against #14 DBU in 3 close games.
USM lost 2/3 at Coastal. USM was blown out own in 2 games 7-15 and 7-20 and won last 15-7
They have one bad loss to Valpo (won 2 more)

The drag on Tennessee's RPI is that freak loss to Tennessee Tech
Even the losses to Georgia and Missouri are not bad as they are 41 and 45 respectively.
The last half of the SEC schedule was the mirror opposite of first

First 15 5-10
Last 15 11-4

The RPI would have been higher had

Looking back at the first half of season

LSU 4-6 2-5 14-7
Arkansas 2-5 3-6 2-7
Florida 1-6 3-9 14-2

2 of those series were on road and the Vols played relatively close in all 6 of the games and outscored LSU on the series
Florida beat Tennessee moderate well in first 2 games and Vols still outscored in series with mercy rule win in game 3.

We recall losing the games but most of those games were lost in VERY bad first innings if you recall.

Texas A&M played Vols tough in every game and it's no surprise they played well in Hoover and so far in Stanford.

that being said, if we lose the bid, it's because of Missouri in the tundra and Tennessee Tech.

 

[VolPack22]

Knoxville vs Hattiesburg is the question along with the bid submission.
Great Recruiting tool @ either place.
It will be one of the better Super Regionals if it happens.
Does the NCAA want the Fanfare that Knoxville can provide.
As we have seen, the huge disadvantage for Tennessee is that the Fanbase can lay into the UMPs with words and distractions.
The NCAA may want a kindler-gentler approach and we are in the SEC.

If the NCAA wants more eyeballs on television then they will choose Knoxville. The atmosphere will be better than Southern Miss.

 

[Weezer]

If we can't play in LNS, we should demand the super be in South Carolina. That state has been nice to us. Everywhere else, the road has not been kind.

 

[wtmvol]

Arkansas and Stanford attempting today to join Texas and Tennessee as the only programs to make the last 3 Super Regionals.

 

[VolPack22]

Arkansas and Stanford attempting today to join Texas and Tennessee as the only programs to make the last 3 Super Regionals.

Hoping they both lose because of that.

 

[tn4elvis]

Hoping they both lose because of that.

I enjoyed watching the Pigs get slapped around yesterday

 

[ArdentVol]

My late father (born and buried in North Knoxville) described Hattiesburg as one of the most miserable places in the U.S.

 

[VolPack22]

Some of the later games are IF NECESSARY.

 

[StarRaider]

My late father (born and buried in North Knoxville) described Hattiesburg as one of the most miserable places in the U.S.

yep I worked at a job site there back in the late 90s and have no desire to return.

 

[TennEddie]

The is no comparison when it comes to accommodations.
The last time I was in Hattiesburg ( many years ago ), all they
had was a Motel 6 and a Hardee’s.

 

[VolPack22]

I believe there is still a path for 6 SEC teams to make it to Omaha. If Florida, LSU, and Kentucky advance to Supers then there will be 2 SEC teams guaranteed in Omaha.

 

[VolPack22]

I have a hard time believing Arkansas is beating TCU twice today. Especially after that beatdown. TCU is a better team than most realized. They beat the tar out of Vanderbilt and Arkansas at the beginning of the season. They had an up and down conference season but got hot in the conference tournament. If I’m being objective, Arkansas got screwed over with that Regional. Being the 3 seed, they should have gotten an easier pod.

 

[VolPack22]

Only 2 Supers are set. 7 spots will be filled today. Get ready to see some competitive juices flowing. Should be a great day of games.

 

[nashvillepanther]

Echoing @preacherman20, I would find it strange to see Hattiesburg picked over Knoxville. They have hosted supers in the past, but the cities don't really compare.

Also exciting (for me personally), is that Vandy lost. They might FINALLY FIRE Mike Baxter. I hate seeing programs with defective coaches ruining talent.

I also would love to see Arkansas's pitching coach be let go as well as Florida's hitting coach.

 

[ArdentVol]

The is no comparison when it comes to accommodations.
The last time I was in Hattiesburg ( many years ago ), all they
had was a Motel 6 and a Hardee’s.

i did stay in a Hampton Inn and found a bar there that appreciated the band T-shirt I was wearing

 

[OldTimer]

Hardee's in underrated, good burgers and great breakfast. Of course all the ones around me have been shut down for lack of business and/or health code violations.