More Absurd Coach Rankings

[VolinArizona]

Urban Meyer in his first head coaching Job took a 2-9 Bowling Green team and made them a 9-3.


Then he took over a 5-6 Utah team and made them 10-2, and won the conference Championship in his first year.

The next season he went undefeated and won the Conference Championship while also winning a BCS Bowl finishing in the Top 5.

Then he took over a 7-5 Florida team, and in 2 years he has won a SEC Championship, a National Championship, and 2 Straight top recruiting classes.

He has done nothing but win.

I didn't mention it in the first post, but Dienhart was rating the 66 BCS coaches. I don't consider Meyer's pre-Florida days as part of the discussion.

 

[VolinArizona]

How Roof, Robinson, Brewster and Chizak even made the list is beyond me, half can't win 3 games a year and the other half have not even coached 1 down as a Major college coach yet.....ridiculous

Dienhart rated the 66 BCS coaches. And Ted Roof being ahead of anyone is a joke.

 

[jakez4ut]

1. Pete Carroll, Southern California
2. Jim Tressel, Ohio State
3. Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia --all hype
4. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest --A for effort, but too high
5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
6. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
7. Nick Saban, Alabama
8. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
9. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State--what????????
10. Mack Brown, Texas
11. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa can you say "fizzled out"..Iowa has underacheived each of the past 2 years, and has won 0 big games.
12. Urban Meyer, Florida --maybe he missed the BCS title game??
13. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State --again, A for effort but waay to high.
14. Bobby Bowden, Florida State --charity vote should get him top 10.
15. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn
16. Lloyd Carr, Michigan --the CPF of the big 10...too high.
17. Mike Bellotti, Oregon
18. Joe Paterno, Penn State see bobby bowden
19. Butch Davis, North Carolina --hasn't coached CFB in how long?
20. Houston Nutt, Arkansas Tom is Nutts.
21. Bill Callahan, Nebraska I guess he missed the 1st couple of years whle bill as been in Lincoln?
22. Jeff Tedford, Cal
23. Mark Richt, Georgia should be much higher
24. Jim Leavitt, South Florida ?
25. Mike Riley, Oregon State
26. Mike Leach, Texas Tech what exactly has he done except re invent the run and shoot?
27. Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville i guess just being in Bobby Petrino's old office is enough to warrant this?
28. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland
29. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt
30. Chan Gailey, Georgia Technice job with the qb last season coach.
31. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee completely homer, but certainly not worthy of being this low...not top 10 or 15, but certainly top 25.
32. Joe Tiller, Purdue
33. Greg Schiano, RutgersJim Grobe is top 5, but this guy had his team a couple of games away from the BCS title game....??
34. Al Groh, Virginia
35. Mark Mangino, Kansas
36. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati
37. Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M
38. Dan Hawkins, Colorado
39. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin
40. Rich Brooks, Kentucky
41. Les Miles, LSU
42. Charlie Weis, Notre Dame now this is just funny.
43. Gary Pinkel, Missouri
44. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
45. Dave Wannstedt, Pitt
46. Terry Hoeppner, Indiana
47. Tommy Bowden, Clemson
48. Karl Dorrell, UCLA
49. Ron Zook, Illinois
50. Guy Morriss, Baylor
51. Mike Stoops, Arizona
52. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State
53. Bill Doba, Washington State
54. Ty Willingham, Washington
55. Randy Edsall, UConn
56. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State
57. Ron Prince, Kansas State
58. Tim Brewster, Minnesota
59. Ted Roof, Duke
60. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
61. Jim Harbaugh, Stanford
62. Randy Shannon, Miami (Fla.)
63. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss
64. Jeff Jagodzinski, Boston College
65. Greg Robinson, Syracuse
66. Gene Chizik, Iowa State

:crazy:

 

[XtennesseeX]

Wow.
I feel sorry for Ed Orgeron.

On that list he is behind, Duke's coach who is 5-34 overall and is on a 20 game losing streak.

 

[allvol123]

I can name plenty of reasons:

Bob Stoops
Pete Carroll
Steve Spurrier
Joe Paterno
Bobby Bowden

and possibly
Dennis Erickson
Butch Davis

I would disagree here. If I were an AD and could have any coach I wanted or was making a list of the top 5 I wanted, Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden would not be on that list of 5.

 

[kptvol]

I would disagree here. If I were an AD and could have any coach I wanted or was making a list of the top 5 I wanted, Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden would not be on that list of 5.

That's because their combined ages are over 150. FSU made the perfect hire when they hired Bowden.

 

[XtennesseeX]

Agreed, but I don't think this list is about what they have done, or alot of those coaches wouldn't be in the Top 10.

And Fulmer would be in the Top 10.

 

[kptvol]

Agreed, but I don't think this list is about what they have done, or alot of those coaches wouldn't be in the Top 10.

And Fulmer would be in the Top 10.

Bowden and Paterno have both won their conferences in the last two years.

 

[allvol123]

Thanks for some irrelevant remarks kpt. Not sure what any of them have to do with either of the old guys belonging on anyone's top 5 coaching list.

 

[hatvol96]

The assertion that there are 18 coaches in BCS conferences better than Butch Davis is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read from someone paid to comment on sports.

 

[hatvol96]

The only redeeming thing about that list is the fact that he properly recognizes the brilliance of Dennis Erickson.

 

[kptvol]

Thanks for some irrelevant remarks kpt. Not sure what any of them have to do with either of the old guys belonging on anyone's top 5 coaching list.

My remarks only become irrelevant when you invent your own criteria for the rankings. Bowden and Paterno have won a lot in their careers. They've also managed to win something relevant in recent years. Thus, they are worthy of high ranks.

I'm not surprised you needed me to explain the point further.

 

[allvol123]

My own criteria? Top 5 coaches, my understanding of the list was the top 5 coaches in college right now. Using that insane criteria, no way your 2 grandpa's make that list.

 

[kptvol]

My own criteria? Top 5 coaches, my understanding of the list was the top 5 coaches in college right now. Using that insane criteria, no way your 2 grandpa's make that list.

If you define the top 5 coaches by what they've accomplished, then Bobby Bowden is out in front by a mile. The criteria for defining the best coaches isn't clarified by the author. Thus, VolinAZ could easily put Bobby Bowden first. Resume-wise, he's a pretty easy choice. It just depends on what criteria one wishes to use.

 

[allvol123]

If you define the top 5 coaches by what they've accomplished, then Bobby Bowden is out in front by a mile. The criteria for defining the best coaches isn't clarified by the author. Thus, VolinAZ could easily put Bobby Bowden first. Resume-wise, he's a pretty easy choice. It just depends on what criteria one wishes to use.

I don't think this idiotic list was focused on career accomplishments in my opinion with Rich Rodriguez sitting at number 3. It appeared to me, as confusing and inaccurate as the list is it was focusing more on how he would rate the coaches as of right now.

 

[kptvol]

I don't think this idiotic list was focused on career accomplishments in my opinion with Rich Rodriguez sitting at number 3. It appeared to me, as confusing and inaccurate as the list is it was focusing more on how he would rate the coaches as of right now.

Rich Rodriguez is too high no matter which way you look at it. There's no way he should be higher than Urban Meyer. In a lot of ways you could say Rodriguez is Urban Meyer, Jr. The list is just insanely idiotic. It's pretty tough to argue against any criticism of a list this poorly conceived.

 

[allvol123]

Rich Rodriguez is too high no matter which way you look at it. There's no way he should be higher than Urban Meyer. In a lot of ways you could say Rodriguez is Urban Meyer, Jr. The list is just insanely idiotic. It's pretty tough to argue against any criticism of a list this poorly conceived.

True.

 

[justingroves]

You seriously would put Bobby Bowden in front of Meyer.

Hell yeah

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

Which is pretty much the reason no one listens to your opinion.

Carr is the Phil Fulmer of the Big 10. Recruits lots of "talent", but seems to always underachieve. But hey, he's got a ring...

Houston Nutt's reputation speaks for itself just over the last 5-6 months.

As far as Bellotti, I saw this guy make about 4 attempts to blow a game against Michigan 4 years ago that I could never forget. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for having a few loose play calls or being aggressive on offense, but running the ball up the middle on a 4th and 5 on the Michigan 5 when you can kick a field goal and be up by 14 is a head scratcher. Then, later on in the game, when faced with a 4th and 8 on the Michigan 35, what does he do? Does he try to kick a field goal? No... maybe it was too far a way for his kicker? OK, fair enough. How about a pooch punt then? No. Try again. How about lets try the samething, run up the middle to try and convert a 4th and 8...

And of course, Michigan turns around and scores touchdowns on both possessions following the turnovers on downs.

That game had to be the worst coached game (from both sides of the field) I've seen in a long time.

 

[kptvol]

Carr is the Phil Fulmer of the Big 10. Recruits lots of "talent", but seems to always underachieve. But hey, he's got a ring...

Houston Nutt's reputation speaks for itself just over the last 5-6 months.

As far as Bellotti, I saw this guy make about 4 attempts to blow a game against Michigan 4 years ago that I could never forget. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for having a few loose play calls or being aggressive on offense, but running the ball up the middle on a 4th and 5 on the Michigan 5 when you can kick a field goal and be up by 14 is a head scratcher. Then, later on in the game, when faced with a 4th and 8 on the Michigan 35, what does he do? Does he try to kick a field goal? No... maybe it was too far a way for his kicker? OK, fair enough. How about a pooch punt then? No. Try again. How about lets try the samething, run up the middle to try and convert a 4th and 8...

And of course, Michigan turns around and scores touchdowns on both possessions following the turnovers on downs.

That game had to be the worst coached game (from both sides of the field) I've seen in a long time.

Missed the point completely.

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

Missed the point completely.

What glaring problems did you have with the guys rankings? :ermm:

 

[emainvol]

I think Lloyd Carr, Mike Belotti, and Houston Nutt are ranked too high. Other than that, I didn't see much wrong with the list.

Have you ever watched an Iowa football game? Kirk Ferentz is WAY too high.

Butch Davis is too low, as is Mark Mangino, Mark Richt and Rich Brooks.

I could give you a lot more but this list is just so obviously bad that I don't think I need to.

I am with hat, at least he recognizes the genius that is Dennis Erickson.

 

[Tenn_Vol_Authority]

Have you ever watched an Iowa football game? Kirk Ferentz is WAY too high.

Butch Davis is too low, as is Mark Mangino, Mark Richt and Rich Brooks.

I could give you a lot more but this list is just so obviously bad that I don't think I need to.

I am with hat, at least he recognizes the genius that is Dennis Erickson.

You're right about Ferentz, I looked past that name the first time through. But I'm not quite sure about Rich Brooks just yet. Remember, he's just a year removed from being on the chopping block/hot seat.

 

[ukvols]

I have to defend Coach Rod. I agree that he is not #3, but he is more than just hype. West Virginia isn't exactly crawling with in-state D-1 talent. He did get upset by USF last year but has still been highly successful, and I dare say, will be remembered for having a better run than Nehlen.

 

[VolinArizona]

Have you ever watched an Iowa football game? Kirk Ferentz is WAY too high.

Butch Davis is too low, as is Mark Mangino, Mark Richt and Rich Brooks.

I could give you a lot more but this list is just so obviously bad that I don't think I need to.

I am with hat, at least he recognizes the genius that is Dennis Erickson.

Mark Mangino higher than 35? Noooooo wayyyyy. He's 25-35 at Kansas. 35th sounds about right.