more class from the libs part 2.

#77
#77
k-town_king said:
Was he a good pres? Yes. A womanizier? Yes
An a**? No. McCain is a womanizer and a**hole? Im sayin Obama ran a clean campaign but could have done some mud-slinging not should have. He chose to take the high road.
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what made Clinton a good pres? The fact that he was in office for a technology boom that he had nothing whatsoever to do with? Maybe wiping out our military and intelligence capabilities is what you're referring to? Maybe letting Osama run free?

Bottom line is that Clinton ended up being a reasonably centrist president after the congress shift. His governing from polls is simply a weakness IMO. He was bent on making people feel good and he did. The economy had almost nothing to do with him or his policies. It helped him in the end that he lost his sympathetic congress. Otherwise, he would have probably lived up to more of his liberal promises from his first victory campaign.

Womanizer at every turn doesn't qualify him as an a-hole to you? Yet McCain's single foray makes him one? You're clearly taking the objective stand. Kudos.
 
#78
#78
nickknx865 said:
1. Keating Five - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. He voted against MLK day. Also, John McCain has been gratuitously using the word "gook" since he returned from Vietnam
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It is in the Bible that if you are held as a POW in Vietnam for over a year you can use the word gook freely. Look it up.

If arrested in Mexico...it is NOT cool to use the word spic. The police do NOT like it.
 
#79
#79
nickknx865 said:
1. Keating Five - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. He voted against MLK day. Also, John McCain has been gratuitously using the word "gook" since he returned from Vietnam
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Let someone tie you up and hang you by your elbows, until your arms pull out of socket. All this while beating you with a cane pole.

Let them put you in solitary confinement for years on end, while feeding you one small bowl of soup a day. Soup made from rotting pumpkin. Spend several years living by the starvation motto. "If it walks, crawls, flies, or slithers it goes on the menu."

See what you call them.
 
#80
#80
SavageOrangeJug said:
Let someone tie you up and hang you by your elbows, until your arms pull out of socket. All this while beating you with a cane pole.

Let them put you in solitary confinement for years on end, while feeding you one small bowl of soup a day. Soup made from rotting pumpkin. Spend several years living by the starvation motto. "If it walks, crawls, flies, or slithers it goes on the menu."

See what you call them.
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my grandfather used the word kraut quite a bit, and my other grandad used zipperhead and chinks quite a bit to describe japanese, i mean even up to before he died last summer, we would mess with him trying to get him to go to a japanese steak house, and his exact words were im not goin to eat at no chinky place, the only thing you get from those people is the 7 year itch. (both were in WWII, and gramps saw first hand some of the atrocites commited by the japs, and pawpaw was in the 82nd and was in the unit that first came across concentration camps)
 
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#81
615 Vol said:
Where is your link?
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Corruption:

The FBI affidavit said Blagojevich had been told by an adviser "the president-elect can get Rod Blagojevich's wife on paid corporate boards in exchange for naming the president-elect's pick to the Senate."
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ABC News

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Racism:

Obama's pastor and "mentor" of 20 years.

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#85
#85
SavageOrangeJug said:
That is a damn liberal lie.
John McCain has more guts than Lil' Hussein could ever muster. McCain suffered mightily in service to this nation. This nation will suffer mightily in service to Lil' Hussein.
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Actually it isn't a lie. It is the truth. His ratings as a fighter pilot were on the low side of the scale compared to other military pilots.

I respect McCain as much as anyone for his time as a POW, but he wasn't close to being a military hero.

You have a right to your opinion, just know you are in the minority. Typical right wing fear mongering
 
#86
#86
k-town_king said:
POW or not McCain is a piece of sh*t womanizier with a napolean complex and father issues. He did nothing on his own. Crashed three planes from reckless flying and should have been court-martialed . Was at the bottom of his class at westpoint and would have been kicked out for discipline and attitude if his father and grandfather werent Admirals. He dumped his wife that waited on him while he was a POW since she was in an accident and lived with Cindy while still married to the first wife. In the Navy while others went for assignments in places where there could be conflict so they could help, he picked Brasil so he could " get laid" he was married during this time. McCain once cursed two young women out on the street so bad that he was arrested. His fellow senators from both sides hate him and he has had to be seperated from other republican senators he tried to fight in the capitol. Yea he is a POS. And I cant link youtube Im on my smartphone at work and my work pc firewall wont allow it.
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I agree, McCain was a sorry candidate.

One's first clue might be that the New York Times picked McCain as its favorite Republican!!


John McCain pushed for GHWB to nominate Souter to the Supreme Court and we all know Souter turned out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The "John McCain for President Exploratory Committee" was co-chaired by former Sen. Warren Rudman (R-NH), who headed up McCain's network in the crucial primary state of New Hampshire. Rudman, a longtime defender of Roe v. Wade, orchestrated the appointment of former New Hampshire Supreme Court Justice David Souter to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1990. Souter subsequently played a key role in crafting Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the 1992 Supreme Court ruling that reaffirmed Roe v. Wade.
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In November 1991, when Tracy Usry, the former chief investigator of the Minority Staff of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, testified before the Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, he revealed that the Soviets interrogated U.S. prisoners of war in Vietnam. Sen. McCain became outraged, interrupting Usry several times, arguing that "none of the returned U.S. prisoners of war released by Vietnam were ever interrogated by the Soviets."

Yet, former U.S. POW Laird Gutterson, who was held with McCain, told the U.S. Veteran Dispatch that McCain told him the Soviets were involved when McCain needed special medical attention as a result of his shoot down in 1967.

Former KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin testified under oath before the 1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs that the KGB interrogated U.S. POWs in Vietnam.

Gen. Kalugin stated that one of the POWs worked on by the KGB was a "high-ranking naval officer," who, according to Kalugin, agreed to work with the Soviets upon his repatriation to the United States and has frequently appeared on U.S. television.

Col. Bui Tin, a former Senior Colonel in the North Vietnamese Army, testified on the same day, but after Usry, that because of his high position in the Communist Party during the war, he had the authority to "read all documents and secret telegrams from the politburo" pertaining to American prisoners of war. He said that not only did the Soviets interrogate some American prisoners of war, but that they treated the Americans very badly.

Sen. McCain stunned onlookers at the hearing when he rushed forward to the witness table and warmly embraced Col. Bui Tin as if he was a long, lost brother.

During the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs hearings, McCain opposed all efforts by the POW/MIA families and activists to have the Select Committee expand its investigation to study how successful the Vietnamese, Soviet, Chinese and Cuban interrogation apparatuses were at exploiting American prisoners of war. During the Korean War, one out of every three U.S. POWs collaborated.

For nearly two years, McCain's communist handlers kept him isolated from other U.S. prisoners. Because they considered him a "special prisoner," McCain became the target of intense indoctrination and psychological programs the communists had perfected during the Korean War.

The communists were very much aware that POW McCain would be under great psychological pressure not to do or say anything that would tarnish his famous military family and they considered that to be the key to eventually breaking and then "turning" him. McCain's handlers kept meticulous records of his behavior, including his personal strengths, weaknesses and any special favors he may have accepted while under the pressure of isolation.

Because he was kept isolated from other U.S. prisoners during these years of captivity, no one, except McCain and his captors, know exactly to what he was subjected or how he responded. Most information in the public record detailing McCain's experience with the North Vietnamese during this time frame came from McCain and McCain only.

In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the Vietnamese not to make public the records they hold pertaining to returned U.S. POWs.

Do you know about documents that McCain and Kerry covered up during the Senate Select Committee that stated that the Vietnamese had ACKNOWLEDGED taking men into captivity that they never mentioned before?

Most don't know anything more about the POW/MIA issue than what has been spun, controlled and then passed on to the MSM. If you want facts, talk to a family member of a missing man and find out their story. That is where you will get the truth.

At that public hearing on September 21, 1992, toward the end of Schlesinger's testimony, the former defense secretary, who earlier had been CIA chief, was asked a simple question: "In your view, did we leave men behind?"

He replied: "I think that as of now, I can come to no other conclusion."

In October 1990 John McCain said on the floor of the Senate: “Mr. President, I am anxious to construct a new relationship with our old adversary (Vietnam)”. He, who was in a Vietnamese prison camps for five and a half years, was pushing hard for normalized relations with Hanoi long before anyone else was.

A report by a high level Defense Intelligence Agency analyst, John F. McCreary, showed that John McCain was responsible for having the live sighting reports of our POWs/MIAs shredded.
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"He did everything that we asked of him, including arming the KLA", said Albanian lobbyist Joe DioGuardi. The Albanians collected one million dollars for the presidential campaign of this senator.

Senate resolution - which McCain wrote - extends thanks to the Albanians for "saving all the Jews who lived in Albania or who sought shelter there during the Nazi Holocaust".....

McCain omitted the important fact - Albania was under Italian occupation and Italy did not persecute the Jews. that's why the Jews survived. In Kosovo, Albanians hunted down Jews, the same as they hunted Serbs. Today, Kosovo is JUDENREIN. (No remaining Jews)

Albanian manipulation of the documented historical facts is pure Holocaust revisionism and McCain is Holocaust revisionist when he supports it.
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#87
#87
Think McCain is pro second amendment???? Think again.


McCain breathed new life into the Juvenile Justice Bill's anti- gun amendments, after it had been KILLED. McCain and 4 other moderate Republicans said they would vote for the Lautenberg gun show ban bill unless the Republican Leadership brought up a bill. They did and it passed the Senate.

McCain told Neal Knox and the present Second Vice President of NRA that he would never forget what NRA had done in the 1994 election. He then cosponsored the McCain Feingold Campaign Finance bill. This bill would prevent all independent groups such as NRA, Christian Coalition, Right to Life and other conservative groups from doing effective election campaigns. They could not report the voting records of candidates 60 days prior to the election. ALL elections would be tilted toward anti-gun liberals.
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On immigration and emotional issues:

Defending His Amnesty Bill, Sen. McCain Lost His Temper And “Screamed, ‘f*** You!’ At Texas Sen. John Cornyn” (R-TX). “Presidential hopeful John McCain - who has been dogged for years by questions about his volcanic temper - erupted in an angry, profanity-laced tirade at a fellow Republican senator, sources told The Post yesterday.

In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed, ‘F— you!’ at Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who had been raising concerns about the legislation. ‘This is chickens—stuff,’ McCain snapped at Cornyn, according to several people in the room off the Senate floor Thursday. ‘You’ve always been against this bill, and you’re just trying to derail it.’” (Charles Hurt, “Raising McCain,” New York Post, 5/19/07)

Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) An “A**hole”, Causing A Fellow GOP Senator To Say, “I Didn’t Want This Guy Anywhere Near A Trigger.”

Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A “******* Jerk.”

In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A “Scuffle” With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor.

Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Republican Volunteer.
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And where does John McCain stand on the fabricated "global warming" issue????

Despite a recent Wall Street Journal editorial characterizing his position on global warming as "Obama lite," McCain asserted, "We stand warned by serious and credible scientists across the world that time is short and the dangers are great. The most relevant question now is whether our own government is equal to the challenge." No, the most relevant question is whether global warming is true. Cults ignore evidence and facts contrary to their blind faith. Science should never be blind to opposing views, but the apostle of global warming, Al Gore,and his new disciple, John McCain, want us to believe in a 2008 version of the Pete Seeger anti-war lyric: "we were -- knee deep in (carbon monoxide) and the big fool said to push on."


Every campaign statement made by McCain on environment and energy issues might as well have been written by Al Gore.

Global Cap and Trade, the McCain version?? Can you say Kyoto in drag???

In John McCain's own words, or at least the words of his political handlers:

John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President "I will clean up the planet," McCain said. "I will make global warming a priority."
 
#88
#88
nickknx865 said:
So you are readily admitting that Obama has never been tied as a first party to corruption or racism. Good to know.
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Try reading the article first.


The FBI (the people that put you in jail) affidavit said Blagojevich (Obama's political crony)
had been told by an adviser "the president-elect (that would be Obama) can get Rod Blagojevich's wife on paid corporate boards in exchange for naming the president-elect's pick to the Senate."
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At first I chalked your naivety up to youth. Young man, I was wrong. You're just not very bright.
 
#90
#90
nickknx865 said:
How the hell do you figure that Blagojovich is Obama's crony. Show me some damn proof, or you're a lying sheep.
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Read the article.

Obama was trying to buy the Senate seat pick. Obama and Blagojevich are from the same political machine, in the same city. It's no secret they have been political buddies for years.

Are you stupid?

Nevermind, the answer is crystal clear.
 
#92
#92
nickknx865 said:
Save for that pesky Keating 5 thingamajig.
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If I have the facts straight he was cleared of any wrong doing. The jury is still out on this thing with Obama. Bottom line is they both probably crossed lines that shouldn't have been crossed. Even ground as far as I'm concerned.
 
#93
#93
BigPapaVol said:
what made Clinton a good pres? The fact that he was in office for a technology boom that he had nothing whatsoever to do with? Maybe wiping out our military and intelligence capabilities is what you're referring to? Maybe letting Osama run free?

Bottom line is that Clinton ended up being a reasonably centrist president after the congress shift. His governing from polls is simply a weakness IMO. He was bent on making people feel good and he did. The economy had almost nothing to do with him or his policies. It helped him in the end that he lost his sympathetic congress. Otherwise, he would have probably lived up to more of his liberal promises from his first victory campaign.

Womanizer at every turn doesn't qualify him as an a-hole to you? Yet McCain's single foray makes him one? You're clearly taking the objective stand. Kudos.
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Clinton's three worst acts were his Balkan policy, selling secrets to the Chinese and enabling North Korea to become nuclear capable.

rockytophigh said:
It is in the Bible that if you are held as a POW in Vietnam for over a year you can use the word gook freely. Look it up.

If arrested in Mexico...it is NOT cool to use the word spic. The police do NOT like it.
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First I've ever heard of McCain using the word "gook."

I thought he was rather fond of the Vienamese.

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Of course everyone must be politically correct at all times, otherwise someone might be offended and do something stupid and we can't have that, now can we??

For the record; "The Korean for nation/national is the suffix "-guk;" hence Yongguk (Britain/British) Hanguk (Korea/Korean). America/American is "Miguk." Did GIs who heard Koreans murmuring "Miguk" when they saw these strange-looking, long-nosed troops, think they were saying "Me, gook"?

Extreme political correctness is one of the worst things to ever happen to America.

I think what you are trying to say about McCain is just something dreamed up by some lib for disinformation purposes. Although the term "gook" is at times used by a few older veterans to refer to the North Koreans, it was never used much to refer to Vietnamese. That's a fact Jack.

Where did you hear that McCain uses the term "gook" to refer to Vietnamese??
 
#95
#95
666 said:
I'll take people mocking someone on their way out over mindless sheep supporting a futile war that has done nothing but cause thousands of people lose their lives.
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And expedite our economy's descent into the toilet.
 
#97
#97
666 said:
I'll take people mocking someone on their way out over mindless sheep supporting a futile war that has done nothing but cause thousands of people lose their lives.
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Support or non-support for the war aside, an objective person could see the possibility that the war actually saved thousands of lives.
 
#98
#98
allvol123 said:
Support or non-support for the war aside, an objective person could see the possibility that the war actually saved thousands of lives.
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Sure, because Iraq was quite the military threat. I'm confident toppling the only secular leader among our enemies in the region will prove to be a boon to peace.
 
#99
#99
hatvol96 said:
Sure, because Iraq was quite the military threat. I'm confident toppling the only secular leader among our enemies in the region will prove to be a boon to peace.
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What? Who said anything about them being a military threat? He claimed the war had cost thousands of people their lives. Had Saddam not gassed and murdered people in large quantities prior to our arrival?
 
#100
#100
allvol123 said:
What? Who said anything about them being a military threat? He claimed the war had cost thousands of people their lives. Had Saddam not gassed and murdered people in large quantities prior to our arrival?
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Iraqi lives aren't my concern.
 
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