More Climate BS...

[Lawrence Wright]

The real target must be Polk

And Lake.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

God, please bless those affected by this tragic natural disaster. And, give us grace to be more loving to those with whom we agree; and even more grace to be loving to those with whom we disagree.

Amen and amen.

If in fact the sky daddy is real then isn't he the one orchestrating these storms? No need to pray about it, it's his will after all. Mysterious ways and whatnot.

 

[GroverCleveland]

When did Hurricanes become the result of global warming? 1880's, 1900's, 1930's, 2000's or 2024?

Pretty much since the last glacial maximum.

 

[Ritzwatch]

God, please bless those affected by this tragic natural disaster. And, give us grace to be more loving to those with whom we agree; and even more grace to be loving to those with whom we disagree.

Amen and amen.

If in fact the sky daddy is real then isn't he the one orchestrating these storms? No need to pray about it, it's his will after all. Mysterious ways and whatnot.

Grace abounds, my friend.

God bless you.

 

[theFallGuy]

They want to double the amount you pay for gas because "climate stuff"

Climate Change Action Can’t Wait For Perfect Solutions

Perfect climate solutions aren't necessary to take immediate, meaningful action that incorporates the real cost of climate change and nature loss.

www.forbes.com

 

[LouderVol]

tl;dr I don't think those farts are all that more than what was here before.

so one thing I kinda realised that made the whole "cow fart" argument funny is that there are approximately 30 million cows in NA today. the smallest estimate of how many bison were present in NA starts at 30 million, and goes up to nearly 60 million.

and the typical male bison is going to outweigh the typical male cow by about 500lbs. and there were plenty of other herd animals that we similarly devastated.

deer have simularily been decreased. 60 million down to 30.
larger deer-esque species were even worse hit. Elk and Moose and the like.
there were several American-antelopes, most of which are gone, but we have several "pronghorns".
Big horn sheep still haven't recovered to anywhere near their old numbers. estimated several millions down to singular million or less.
birds I haven't seen a total number on, there were plenty of Turkey sized, or smaller ground based/limited flight birds in the plains, several of which we have killed off. there are 523 million chickens now.
Pigs are about the one place we have increased populations over the natives. but I doubt it offsets the rest.

 

[Orangeburst]

tl;dr I don't think those farts are all that more than what was here before.

so one thing I kinda realised that made the whole "cow fart" argument funny is that there are approximately 30 million cows in NA today. the smallest estimate of how many bison were present in NA starts at 30 million, and goes up to nearly 60 million.

and the typical male bison is going to outweigh the typical male cow by about 500lbs. and there were plenty of other herd animals that we similarly devastated.

deer have simularily been decreased. 60 million down to 30.
larger deer-esque species were even worse hit. Elk and Moose and the like.
there were several American-antelopes, most of which are gone, but we have several "pronghorns".
Big horn sheep still haven't recovered to anywhere near their old numbers. estimated several millions down to singular million or less.
birds I haven't seen a total number on, there were plenty of Turkey sized, or smaller ground based/limited flight birds in the plains, several of which we have killed off. there are 523 million chickens now.
Pigs are about the one place we have increased populations over the natives. but I doubt it offsets the rest.

Bison ate more fiber…and Metamucil.
seriously, good point.

 

[just bob]

If in fact the sky daddy is real then isn't he the one orchestrating these storms? No need to pray about it, it's his will after all. Mysterious ways and whatnot.

That same sky daddy gave you a seriously subpar IQ. Proof there's a humorous side as well.

 

[C-south]

If in fact the sky daddy is real then isn't he the one orchestrating these storms? No need to pray about it, it's his will after all. Mysterious ways and whatnot.

There are no atheists in foxholes.

 

[85SugarVol]

They want to double the amount you pay for gas because "climate stuff"

Climate Change Action Can’t Wait For Perfect Solutions

Perfect climate solutions aren't necessary to take immediate, meaningful action that incorporates the real cost of climate change and nature loss.

www.forbes.com

Are they conveniently ignoring the economic calamity that accompanied the emissions reductions during Covid?

Probably….

While emissions growth has slowed compared to 2022, we’re still increasing emissions when we should be seeing reductions similar to those that occurred during the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

[CobbVol]

NPR --- Your tax dollars at work for you.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/09/nx-s1-5144216/climate-change-hurricane-helene?utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=npr&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwY2xjawFzeG9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHQDVDWaOA8uOKdgwgg2a0HWWfoBZV0dW3njn_2ASTkDrnb_bvg_oR1illA_aem_ibFSncmOFAzwB08MQRCwjw

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

tl;dr I don't think those farts are all that more than what was here before.

so one thing I kinda realised that made the whole "cow fart" argument funny is that there are approximately 30 million cows in NA today. the smallest estimate of how many bison were present in NA starts at 30 million, and goes up to nearly 60 million.

and the typical male bison is going to outweigh the typical male cow by about 500lbs. and there were plenty of other herd animals that we similarly devastated.

deer have simularily been decreased. 60 million down to 30.
larger deer-esque species were even worse hit. Elk and Moose and the like.
there were several American-antelopes, most of which are gone, but we have several "pronghorns".
Big horn sheep still haven't recovered to anywhere near their old numbers. estimated several millions down to singular million or less.
birds I haven't seen a total number on, there were plenty of Turkey sized, or smaller ground based/limited flight birds in the plains, several of which we have killed off. there are 523 million chickens now.
Pigs are about the one place we have increased populations over the natives. but I doubt it offsets the rest.

Climate change is for control and money( money laundering). Nothing more.

The elites that push it still fly all over the world in private jets and live in mansions with water systems that would run a small town.

Knowing this, you would think 100% of people would call out their .

But the people that believe will tell you hurricanes, that have happened since the beginning of time, is climate change. They think if we throw a bunch of money at it, it can be stopped.
Those same people will say we're full of when we mention cloud seeding, that started 80 years ago, can produce a substantial more amount of moisture out of a system.


So either we can control the weather or we can't. Their argument trys to go both ways and it looks asinine.

 

[evillawyer]

Climate change is for control and money( money laundering). Nothing more.

The elites that push it still fly all over the world in private jets and live in mansions with water systems that would run a small town.

Knowing this, you would think 100% of people would call out their .

But the people that believe will tell you hurricanes, that have happened since the beginning of time, is climate change. They think if we throw a bunch of money at it, it can be stopped.
Those same people will say we're full of when we mention cloud seeding, that started 80 years ago, can produce a substantial more amount of moisture out of a system.


So either we can control the weather or we can't. Their argument trys to go both ways and it looks asinine.

Like hurricanes, alcohol is a natural phenomenon that has always existed. Leave a liquid with sugar in it out open to the elements and it will ferment and make alcohol. But the potency of alcohol can be increased through human means (distillation). Bourbon, for example, would never exist on its own. It requires a human touch. The hurricanes we're seeing now also have a human touch. Without human-caused climate change, they would not be as intense.

 

[volinbham]

Like hurricanes, alcohol is a natural phenomenon that has always existed. Leave a liquid with sugar in it out open to the elements and it will ferment and make alcohol. But the potency of alcohol can be increased through human means (distillation). Bourbon, for example, would never exist on its own. It requires a human touch. The hurricanes we're seeing now also have a human touch. Without human-caused climate change, they would not be as intense.

Global Warming and Hurricanes – Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

Contents Summary Statement Global Warming and Atlantic Hurricanes Statistical relationships between SSTs and hurricanes Analysis of century-scale Atlantic tropical storm and hurricane frequency Analysis of other observed Atlantic hurricane metrics Model simulations of greenhouse warming...

www.gfdl.noaa.gov

• In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increases in greenhouse gases have caused a change in past Atlantic basin hurricane activity that is outside the range of natural variability, although greenhouse gases are strongly linked to global warming. Some possible emerging human influences on past tropical cyclone activity were summarized above. These include, for the Atlantic, recent increases in rapid intensification probability, aerosol-driven changes in hurricane activity, increases in extreme tropical cyclone precipitation in some regions, and a slowing of storm propagation speeds over the U.S. A number of measures of Atlantic hurricane activity have increased since 1980, but in the of case of metrics where much longer records are available, trends since 1980 are not representative of longer (e.g., century-scale) trends. Substantial multidecadal variability in the Atlantic basin confounds efforts to detect long-term greenhouse gas-induced trends. At the global scale, increased intensities, rapid intensification, and fraction of tropical cyclone observations at high intensity are examples of possible emerging human influences, along with a poleward shift of the latitude of maximum tropical cyclone intensity in the Northwest Pacific basin. Human activities may have already caused other changes in tropical cyclone activity, in the Atlantic or globally, that are not yet clearly apparent due to the small magnitude of these changes compared to natural variability, or due to observational limitations.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Biden-Harris Administration finalizes strongest-ever pollution standards for cars that position U.S. companies and workers to lead the clean vehicle future, protect public health, address the climate crisis, save drivers money | US EPA

EPA News Release: Biden-Harris Administration finalizes strongest-ever pollution standards for cars that position U.S. companies and workers to lead the clean vehicle future, protect public health, address the climate crisis, save drivers money

www.epa.gov

Was this posted here? I didn't see it if so. Bidens EPA passed laws that all cars sold in the US must cut emissions by half what they are now by 2032? Thats what the Motortrend article I am reading stated and linked this article. That will likely spell the end of anything with a V8, most V6s, and anything gas powered will be a turbocharged small displacement 4cyl with extremely high compression and boost. Read: expensive as Hell. In order to compensate, vehicles currently powered this way are now all becoming hybrids also...so even more expensive, with electric motors and batteries to wear out and break. Sounds lovely.

Another factor to consider is that high compression and turbo vehicles are usually 92 octane and higher premium fuel only. They wont run on regular 87 gas. Even more cost per mile. All in the name of reducing CO2 output. You know...what every plant on Earth breathes. The same plants which produce the Oxygen we breathe. Earth is greener than ever in modern history right now according to satellite images and data from what I have read.

 

[Vol423]

Like hurricanes, alcohol is a natural phenomenon that has always existed. Leave a liquid with sugar in it out open to the elements and it will ferment and make alcohol. But the potency of alcohol can be increased through human means (distillation). Bourbon, for example, would never exist on its own. It requires a human touch. The hurricanes we're seeing now also have a human touch. Without human-caused climate change, they would not be as intense.

Except, of course, for the ones that were.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The title of this thread is more climate BS. Do you think what's happening today is just "more climate BS?"

Every year they grow worse

It's absolutely precious that you think it is because of what we do here in America.

You are a complete moron.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The real target must be Polk

Gotta clean up the meth.

 

[FLVOL_79]

It's absolutely precious that you think it is because of what we do here in America.

You are a complete moron.

Has anyone ever articulated how our actions create "climate change"? I've never seen it. I mean lets ignore the fact that climate change has happened for billions of years. Has anyone been able to scientifically link mans actions to natural disasters? To me this is just desperate attempts of correlation = causation. Should we be more self conscious of what we do to the environment? Sure. Should we look for alternative fuel sources (come on cold fusion!)? Sure. Did my twin turbo V8 cause Milton to form into a category 5 in the gulf of Mexico? Nope.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Like hurricanes, alcohol is a natural phenomenon that has always existed. Leave a liquid with sugar in it out open to the elements and it will ferment and make alcohol. But the potency of alcohol can be increased through human means (distillation). Bourbon, for example, would never exist on its own. It requires a human touch. The hurricanes we're seeing now also have a human touch. Without human-caused climate change, they would not be as intense.

You know this is BS with a simple search. There has always been strong hurricanes dating back to when they first started records on them. Go look at the first category 5 hurricane, the year it happened, and the population of earth.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

It's absolutely precious that you think it is because of what we do here in America.

You are a complete moron.

Yep. We get taxed into oblivion with this ponzi scheme while China and India pump anything and everything in to the air while also dumping their trash in the ocean.

 

[appvol]

Why do we do cloud seeding? Started in the 1940s. What are the effects of cloud seeding on the environment and atmosphere over the years of doing it? With the way technology has changed have they changed how they do cloud seeding?

 

[hog88]

Like hurricanes, alcohol is a natural phenomenon that has always existed. Leave a liquid with sugar in it out open to the elements and it will ferment and make alcohol. But the potency of alcohol can be increased through human means (distillation). Bourbon, for example, would never exist on its own. It requires a human touch. The hurricanes we're seeing now also have a human touch. Without human-caused climate change, they would not be as intense.

So you are claiming that prior to the last 200 years hurricanes happened but were not as strong?

 

[Cod]

And yet the earth is greener than it ever has been..... according to science.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

And yet the earth is greener than it ever has been..... according to science.

But, we haven't done enough. The governments need to tax our paychecks 90% and the hurricanes will always stay a tropical depression for the rest of time.