More Climate BS...

Listen, I got relatives affected by this too. I'm not making fun of the severity of what happened. I'm drawing light to the fact that most on this board have no issue with climate change - and in fact poo poo its existence - when it doesn't affect them. Trump humself said it's a good thing because it means more waterfront properties. I also know that those affected will take the help the government provides them in their time of need (as they should - that's what government is there for). But when that need disappears most will be right back to decrying the "socialism" of trying to help people in need. I wish 3/4 of this board would wake to the fact that climate change is not a hoax or BS (which is why I dropped my comment in this thread), and having government there to help you when stuff like this happens is what you want in a modern state.
Well, sh*!. I hoped you’d prove me right.

You doubled down, and proved me wrong.

I don’t know if I am now angrier at you, or angrier at the state of mankind.

I really don’t want to be angrier at you, but I don’t want to be angrier at mankind, either.

I’ve got a lot more to pray about at church tomorrow morning. Just so you know, you will be in those prayers, whether you want to be or not.

God, please bless those affected by this tragic natural disaster. And, give us grace to be more loving to those with whom we agree; and even more grace to be loving to those with whom we disagree.

Amen and amen.
 
Anybody lose their home or property today from the global warming hoax passing through the Southeast? Don't worry, that socialism you decried yesterday will be there for you tomorrow.

Ahh another little bitch running his mouth, nice and classy of you.
 
The title of this thread is more climate BS. Do you think what's happening today is just "more climate BS?"

Every year they grow worse
very much an assumption on your part and likely due to the way they present information. and you likely should have taken into account before acting like a jack arse. Assuming you actually care about the truth and not just a political gotcha you are getting called out for.

We have absolutely no basis for understanding how bad hurricanes were in the distant past. Even as short as 100 years ago we wouldn't have most of the methodology to grade hurricanes like we do.

I read a hurricane (not this one) being a 500 year storm. and I thought really? We knew what a hurricane looked like in the 1500s? Europeans didn't even have real colonies by that point to know what they are comparing it too. even going back 100 years, no satellites, no radars, no digital equipment for exact measurements, about 1/10th the population and development in the south. its absolutely asinine to try and say all the "changes" are due to the burning of fossil fuels while ignoring ALL the other changes.

also if you look at how they present the information you can easily see they cherry pick the hades out of it. They will say its the worst storm year for Georgia ever. But really what they are hiding is that in one specific category it is the "worst ever". they will present it as if everything was "the worst" when in reality the wind was clocked at an average 1mph faster, or there was 0.1 more inches of rain, or the storm went 1 mile further, or there was more property damage in dollars, or deaths. ignoring the context that there has been more development to be destroyed, more people in the area to be killed. they find some minute detail that was the "worst" and then play it off.

seriously, remember the weather man fighting the winds and two normal people walking around behind them just fine? Thats is happening with data too. its presented far worse than it is, or in ways to make it far worse than it is. of course it is going to hit areas hard, but to act like this is something new and the fault of the people who deny it is a bad faith argument.

you have plenty of other ways to make it "worse" without actually knowing its worse. we have more data than ever, so we easily use that as justification to say things are worse, when in reality it could be the same amount of "damage" we just didn't have the same level of data. In the last few decades we have put more money into instruments and data collection on the weather, and we are surprised that more data turns up something different than the less data we had before? It is highly probable we are just now accurately aware of how bad it has been.

one big fallacy we ran into with school was the heat island effect changing the data. most temperatures are taken at airports in smaller areas. the development levels around every airport has increased. that has trapped more heat, leading the data to say its hotter than it is.

we also have more accurate equipment. instead of saying it was approximately 100 degrees in the past, we are now up to 100.2 on average. that is a .2 temperature increase in the last 50 years look out global warming proven. in reality the past equipment just couldn't read out those same decimal points. so again we "got worse" without any way to prove there is a difference.

when you consider how small the changes are we are worried about with man made climate change and take the above factors the changes you are selling as cold hard proven scientific facts aren't nearly as solid as you think. especially with the laughably vague terminology we use now "climate change", the climate is always changing. if you want to say its man's fault you need to show how it would have been different without man. a basic starting point with hurricanes they have yet to address.
 
This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm is giving off 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.
 
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This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm has 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.

Stay safe.
 
In a sense many on the left and the right are blaming this on climate change, just in different forms.

Many on the left think it's because of global warming.

Many on the right think it's because of climate-engineering.

It's just comical reading the silliness on twitter.
 
This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm has 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.
Be safe L dubya!
 
This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm has 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.

LW, Think you need to @tag EL. Didn't appear to get the message last time. Doesn't appear to have gotten it this time.
Next time, it will be predictable. (Wonder what the Polymarket odds are on that?)

Looks like we got another global warming hoax on its way

 
This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm has 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.
Yeah, this one has me worried.
 
This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm has 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.
Looking really bad. Stay safe down there.
 
This one is no joke folks.

Lived in FL my entire life, and this storm has 1992 Andrew vibes. Only this time Tampa is in the crosshairs instead of South Florida.

They’re saying Milton will be downgraded to a Cat 4 before it makes landfall, so by the time it gets to Orlando it’s likely a Cat 2 worst case.
We’re moving generators by the truckload into the region. Latest forecasts we’re seeing is Cat 3 when it makes landfall Wednesday ~7-8 PM.

Stay safe.
 
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In a sense many on the left and the right are blaming this on climate change, just in different forms.

Many on the left think it's because of global warming.

Many on the right think it's because of climate-engineering.

It's just comical reading the silliness on twitter.

MTG suggested weather manipulation caused Helene to wipe out conservative counties in western NC.

Hillsborough and Orange are two of Florida’s longstanding blue counties directly in harm’s way, so I wonder what her thoughts are on Milton.

But you’re absolutely right, it is comical.
 
MTG suggested weather manipulation caused Helene to wipe out conservative counties in western NC.

Hillsborough and Orange are two of Florida’s longstanding blue counties directly in harm’s way, so I wonder what her thoughts are on Milton.

But you’re absolutely right, it is comical.
The real target must be Polk 🤔
 
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The title of this thread is more climate BS. Do you think what's happening today is just "more climate BS?"

Every year they grow worse
Florida went about 11 years without a hurricane. I dont remember anyone complaining about climate change then. Yet every..single..year..."THIS YEAR ITS THE BIG ONE!!"

--edit-- I'm not saying folks shouldn't reduce emissions and be more environmentally friendly if they so choose to do so.
 
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MTG suggested weather manipulation caused Helene to wipe out conservative counties in western NC.

Hillsborough and Orange are two of Florida’s longstanding blue counties directly in harm’s way, so I wonder what her thoughts are on Milton.

But you’re absolutely right, it is comical.
Obviously its the great Satan punishing the wicked. Weather control by the gubmint for the trailer parks, Satan for the blue hair retirement communities.
 

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