More shocking info on Obama...

#101
#101
Vol Mania 21 said:
i think it's funny
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I don't. Personally, I shudder think about the thousands of rednecks that actually think that Obama and Osama are related now. It was bad enough trying to teach people that Iraq didn't attack us 9/11, nobody needs to add to the confusion.
 
#102
#102
OWB said:
I don't. Personally, I shudder think about the thousands of rednecks that actually think that Obama and Osama are related now. It was bad enough trying to teach people that Iraq didn't attack us 9/11, nobody needs to add to the confusion.
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I would say that 98% of the people out there know he is not muslim and Iraq didn't attack us 9/11. Of the remaining 2% I would say 1.5% are being intellectually dishonest leaving the morons at .5% minority.
 
#103
#103
KB5252 said:
I would say that 98% of the people out there know he is not muslim and Iraq didn't attack us 9/11. Of the remaining 2% I would say 1.5% are being intellectually dishonest leaving the morons at .5% minority.
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98%? That would be encouraging. I fear you give Americans too much credit.
 
#104
#104
OWB said:
98%? That would be encouraging. I fear you give Americans too much credit.
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I would consider myself a republican but to be honest I am fed up with all politicians. I honestly believe the system has been corrupted and both parties are in the pockets of lobbyists. I just happen to think that being conservative and making people responsible for themselves is a better philosophy. I think most Americans actually feel this way, which is why most potential voters show apathy and simply don't show up to vote. I do believe my earlier statement that most republicans know Obama is not a muslim but look at him with a suspicious eye because of his background. You may think it is wrong but many aren't sure because they know so little about him.
 
#105
#105
Volnissniss said:
He is just a guy representing a small % of Americans that are angry and so angry they are willing to roll the dice with a Muslim as our POTUS. That I simply can not support.
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There are no Muslims running for POTUS. Not a single one. I don't know if there ever have been. Please quit spouting this. It's just not true and never has been true.
 
#106
#106
KB5252 said:
I would consider myself a republican but to be honest I am fed up with all politicians. I honestly believe the system has been corrupted and both parties are in the pockets of lobbyists.
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KB5252, you and I don't agree on a lot philosophically, but I totally understand your sentiments here. I worked as a reporter on Capitol Hill for 3 years right out of school, and one thing I learned is that 99.9% of politicians are "corrupt." They're not, and shouldn't be, our heroes. I enter most elections knowing that the candidates I'm considering are self-motivated egomaniacs.

I also understand that many don't feel like they know a whole lot about Obama. Honestly, I don't care. I don't care if Obama smokes or has done shady business dealings or isn't as "harmonious" as his campaign makes him out to be.

For the past 8 years I've worked in advertising, and I have a different perspective now. I like Obama's brand - I like what he stands for (optimism, not cynicism, civic involvement, open-mindedness, unity - all those fluffy things, yes, I like them). But mostly I like that he's inspired so many people to actually care (for once) about civil activity and get off their butts and get involved. And that for once someone is chipping away at my pessimism and cynicism.

So, for me, it's more about his brand and his impact on a large group of voters than it is the actual person. And I think the vote does matter.
 
#107
#107
TennNC said:
KB5252, you and I don't agree on a lot philosophically, but I totally understand your sentiments here. I worked as a reporter on Capitol Hill for 3 years right out of school, and one thing I learned is that 99.9% of politicians are "corrupt." They're not, and shouldn't be, our heroes. I enter most elections knowing that the candidates I'm considering are self-motivated egomaniacs.

I also understand that many don't feel like they know a whole lot about Obama. Honestly, I don't care. I don't care if Obama smokes or has done shady business dealings or isn't as "harmonious" as his campaign makes him out to be.

For the past 8 years I've worked in advertising, and I have a different perspective now. I like Obama's brand - I like what he stands for (optimism, not cynicism, civic involvement, open-mindedness, unity - all those fluffy things, yes, I like them). But mostly I like that he's inspired so many people to actually care (for once) about civil activity and get off their butts and get involved. And that for once someone is chipping away at my pessimism and cynicism.

So, for me, it's more about his brand and his impact on a large group of voters than it is the actual person. And I think the vote does matter.
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I also respect and like the fact that Obama does seem to inspire those qualities in people. I also agree that everyones vote and participation in this process is needed.
 
#109
#109
TennNC said:
KB5252, you and I don't agree on a lot philosophically, but I totally understand your sentiments here. I worked as a reporter on Capitol Hill for 3 years right out of school, and one thing I learned is that 99.9% of politicians are "corrupt." They're not, and shouldn't be, our heroes. I enter most elections knowing that the candidates I'm considering are self-motivated egomaniacs.

I also understand that many don't feel like they know a whole lot about Obama. Honestly, I don't care. I don't care if Obama smokes or has done shady business dealings or isn't as "harmonious" as his campaign makes him out to be.

For the past 8 years I've worked in advertising, and I have a different perspective now. I like Obama's brand - I like what he stands for (optimism, not cynicism, civic involvement, open-mindedness, unity - all those fluffy things, yes, I like them). But mostly I like that he's inspired so many people to actually care (for once) about civil activity and get off their butts and get involved. And that for once someone is chipping away at my pessimism and cynicism.

So, for me, it's more about his brand and his impact on a large group of voters than it is the actual person. And I think the vote does matter.
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Who did he inspire to what?
 
#111
#111
TennNC said:
For the past 8 years I've worked in advertising, and I have a different perspective now. I like Obama's brand - I like what he stands for (optimism, not cynicism, civic involvement, open-mindedness, unity - all those fluffy things, yes, I like them). But mostly I like that he's inspired so many people to actually care (for once) about civil activity and get off their butts and get involved. And that for once someone is chipping away at my pessimism and cynicism.

So, for me, it's more about his brand and his impact on a large group of voters than it is the actual person. And I think the vote does matter.
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I can appreciate the idea but I view his brand to be more like Coke. Looks good but in the end it's filled with empty calories and too much of it will leave Americans fat and lazy. Smaller doses as a treat, not the whole meal.
 
#113
#113
utvolpj said:
I can appreciate the idea but I view his brand to be more like ME. Looks good but in the end it's filled with empty calories and too much of it will leave Americans fat and lazy. Smaller doses as a treat, not the whole meal.
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:)FYP
 
#114
#114
BigPapaVol said:
Who did he inspire to what?
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Who - US citizens, especially younger ones

What - register, vote, contribute and volunteer

reallyboring.net › Obama good for voter turnout

and

Clinton donors open their chequebooks for Obama | World news | guardian.co.uk

By contrast, Obama's campaign has relied on a deeper pool of small-time donations. Forty-five percent of his total contributions this election cycle were $200 or less, compared to 30% for Clinton. Obama's better success at broadening his donor base with contributors who can be tapped over and over again has helped him raise more than $231m for the primary election, compared to $171.6m raised by Clinton.
 
#115
#115
utvolpj said:
I can appreciate the idea but I view his brand to be more like Coke. Looks good but in the end it's filled with empty calories and too much of it will leave Americans fat and lazy. Smaller doses as a treat, not the whole meal.
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1) Coke is great treatment for a hangover, which is what we're going through.

2) There's also Diet Coke.

3) I will not drink Pepsi.
 
#122
#122
TennNC said:
Who - US citizens, especially younger ones

What - register, vote, contribute and volunteer

reallyboring.net › Obama good for voter turnout

and

Clinton donors open their chequebooks for Obama | World news | guardian.co.uk

By contrast, Obama's campaign has relied on a deeper pool of small-time donations. Forty-five percent of his total contributions this election cycle were $200 or less, compared to 30% for Clinton. Obama's better success at broadening his donor base with contributors who can be tapped over and over again has helped him raise more than $231m for the primary election, compared to $171.6m raised by Clinton.
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how is it new that some ultraliberal, slick talking politician whipped up the young crowd into activism and voting? there's nothing refreshing about that. It's simply liberal politics 101.

I'm fine with you liking Obama, but pretending that he has some new face to politicking is absurd.
 
#124
#124
BigPapaVol said:
how is it new that some ultraliberal, slick talking politician whipped up the young crowd into activism and voting? there's nothing refreshing about that. It's simply liberal politics 101.

I'm fine with you liking Obama, but pretending that he has some new face to politicking is absurd.
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I didn't write that.

Here's what I wrote:

"But mostly I like that he's inspired so many people to actually care (for once) about civil activity and get off their butts and get involved. And that for once someone is chipping away at my pessimism and cynicism."

If you say it's not new, that's fine. It doesn't change what I wrote or what I think.
 
#125
#125
TennNC said:
I didn't write that.

Here's what I wrote:

"But mostly I like that he's inspired so many people to actually care (for once) about civil activity and get off their butts and get involved. And that for once someone is chipping away at my pessimism and cynicism."

If you say it's not new, that's fine. It doesn't change what I wrote or what I think.
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I'm not trying to change anything. Your parenthesized 'for once' comment implies that he's doing something new. If not, that was a typo.

Obama hasn't done anything 'for once.' It has always been easy to get the younger crowd politically active and civic minded. If that's chipping away at your pessimism, so be it, but it apparently doesn't take much.
 
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