More Tatum angst

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Bama back-doored Cam in the first half and I'm wondering what is so special about his D. The fact that he's getting nothing done fieldgoal-wise...he should be lights out defending the other guy, right?

I really really wish Richardson was further along.
 
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Tatum is not a Div.-I talent player. He is over his head but CCM loves him for some reason.
 
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1985Vols said:
Tatum is not a Div.-I talent player. He is over his head but CCM loves him for some reason.
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He was, his knees both going out kind of ruined his development and potential IMO. The only alternative is starting McRae at the 3, but I really feel he does but off the bench do your hands are kind if tied. What were the minutes for skykar, josh, can and Jordan? Anybody....
 
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bleedingtnorange said:
he was, his knees both going out kind of ruined his development and potential imo. The only alternative is starting mcrae at the 3, but i really feel he does but off the bench do your hands are kind if tied. What were the minutes for skykar, josh, can and jordan? Anybody....
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23,15,31,26
 
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Wow cam did play a lot. Recently Jordan had kind of closed the gap on minutes, surprised to see he got that many.

Personally I'd like to see tatum keep starting since McRae plays better off the bench, but McRae get the 30 minutes and tatum the 20-25.

McRae has picked up the d and is actually capable of scoring. I think he deserves that.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Wow cam did play a lot. Recently Jordan had kind of closed the gap on minutes, surprised to see he got that many.

Personally I'd like to see tatum keep starting since McRae plays better off the bench, but McRae get the 30 minutes and tatum the 20-25.

McRae has picked up the d and is actually capable of scoring. I think he deserves that.
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That's a lot of minutes for a senior to get 4 points.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Exactly. And this team is in dire need of a scorer when outside shots are falling, that why i up mcraes minutes and decreas tatum.

Jmo
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I'm with you on that. Being at work, I didn't see when Jordan picked up his 5th, though, so maybe that's why he didn't see more.
 
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MphsBlues said:
I'm with you on that. Being at work, I didn't see when Jordan picked up his 5th, though, so maybe that's why he didn't see more.
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I didn't realize he did. It must have been last minute cheap foul, I didn't even notice it, I just thought only mcbee fouled out.
 
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1985Vols said:
Tatum is not a Div.-I talent player. He is over his head but CCM loves him for some reason.
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Reminds me of a guy on our old high school baseball team. Name was Branch. At the end of tryouts that spring the head coach comes up to him. Says'" Branch, you out hustle, everyone, you out spit everyone, you out talk everyone, you have more enthusiasm than anyone, but you are the worst damn baseball player I've ever seen. Except old Branch didn't make the team.:whistling:
 
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A really good friend of mine was a GA for the team while pearl was here. He was told by the players a coaches that when Cam got here as a freshman he was the most talented player on the team. Do that includes Tyler smith, jujaun, Chris, Wayne, ect. Then he got hurt and never got back to the level he was at during preseason that year. Now he has bad knees and ankles that prevent him from being explosive like he used to be. I still love the effort the guy gives whether it shows up in stats or not. And why you would call him out for one misplayed back door cut is beyond me
 
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Tatum apparently had blackmail material on two different coaching staffs to receive the amount of playing time that he's had here.
 
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TMvol10 said:
A really good friend of mine was a GA for the team while pearl was here. He was told by the players a coaches that when Cam got here as a freshman he was the most talented player on the team. Do that includes Tyler smith, jujaun, Chris, Wayne, ect. Then he got hurt and never got back to the level he was at during preseason that year. Now he has bad knees and ankles that prevent him from being explosive like he used to be. I still love the effort the guy gives whether it shows up in stats or not. And why you would call him out for one misplayed back door cut is beyond me
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That play, going 0-6 from the field, 0-5 from beyond the arc, and a total output for 31 minutes for this senior of 4 points. Let's not forget Arkansas where he was 5-12 and 1-5. And Florida, where he was on the floor for 17 minutes and scored 0 points, 2 turnovers and 5 fouls. That's just the last three games. Hurt knees or not, that is not what you need from your veteran guards. I'll take McRae until Cam gets things straightened out, which isn't likely to be soon.
 
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Outside of the lack of passion and focus to win against an inferior opponent; I wish folks would just be happy if they get to a winning season. It is a flawed team that is getting better, but cannot afford to lose anybody on the team or to have an off night shooting the 3. We will start seeing more improvement next season and thereafter. Coach Zo is the right guy for the job.
 
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Vols4us said:
Outside of the lack of passion and focus to win against an inferior opponent; I wish folks would just be happy if they get to a winning season. It is a flawed team that is getting better, but cannot afford to lose anybody on the team or to have an off night shooting the 3. We will start seeing more improvement next season and thereafter. Coach Zo is the right guy for the job.
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It's great to have a winning record on an off year. But I don't know how to be content with that when a ticket to the dance is possible. Our chances are slim, but I'll hang on to them for as long as we have them. In other words, I won't be content until the SEC tourney is over (if we have another loss in the last 4) or until we win 2 or 3 if we win out.
 
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1985Vols said:
Tatum is not a Div.-I talent player. He is over his head but CCM loves him for some reason.
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That couldn't be further from the truth. Before all of his physical (and off the court) troubles he was on his way to becoming first team all-SEC. He's hit a ton of big shots in his career. So the guy is having a bad year? No reason to dog him and say he isn't a D-1 talent. The kid has given 5 years of his life to UT and has been a very solid contributer every year up until the last half of this year.

edit: one more thing.. I also have terrible knees (3 surgeries) and if he's having as much trouble with his as people are speculating, it's not surprise he's had a down year. nearly impossible to play any sport, let alone basketball, at a high level with bum knees and ankles. the fact he still goes out and practices/plays even though he's taped up every game says something about his commitment to the university.
 
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alditore17. Let's talk about that reading comprehension problem from earlier. Since you kept ignoring me asking where I defended Golden. What do you have to say now.
 
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altidore17 said:
That couldn't be further from the truth. Before all of his physical (and off the court) troubles he was on his way to becoming first team all-SEC. He's hit a ton of big shots in his career. So the guy is having a bad year? No reason to dog him and say he isn't a D-1 talent. The kid has given 5 years of his life to UT and has been a very solid contributer every year up until the last half of this year.

edit: one more thing.. I also have terrible knees (3 surgeries) and if he's having as much trouble with his as people are speculating, it's not surprise he's had a down year. nearly impossible to play any sport, let alone basketball, at a high level with bum knees and ankles. the fact he still goes out and practices/plays even though he's taped up every game says something about his commitment to the university.
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Well, this would be 2.5 bad years.
 
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Yeah, Tatum is just not contributing anything right now. Love his heart all you want, but he is hurting our cause in a major way and has been all season. He needs to see his minutes reduced and become a team supporter from the bench.
 
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Something that's always bothered me about human beings is their need to put the blame on some one when things go wrong.
We need scape goats at work, in government and in sports.
Basketball is a team sport.
If you need a scape goat for the Alabama loss, put the blame where it belongs.
Alabama scored 19 points off of 17 turnovers. We lost by 12.
11 of those turnovers came from our best 2 players, Maymon and Golden. Tatum had one, skylar as usual had none.
Every turnover is a potential 4-6 point reversal in scoring.
You lose a possession and give one to your opponent.
Takeaway 11 turnovers and replace them with just a few points for those 11 possessions and you win the game.
Tatum's not the problem.
 
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