Morgan Freeman: Tea Party is racist

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Muschump said:
Or do Tea Party members just not care about military spending? Only brown spending?
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Absurd. I don't give a rat's ass about the TP, but I know that I give a crap about all of it. I tend to side with the military to a fault, but that shiz has to be cut too. Nothing is off the table in a time like this. Further exacerbating the problems that free money causes should be problem #1 for everyone, black, brown, blue or purple.
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Muschump said:
Fair enough. To be clear though, I wasn't calling anyone here a racist. Sorry to offend.
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of course that was your intent and it wasn't the first time you've tried it. You don't want a policy debate (probably for a couple reasons) and so you resort to the racist angle to kill it. Classic lefty
 
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utvolpj said:
of course that was your intent and it wasn't the first time you've tried it
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No, I don't think everyone in the Tea Party is racist. I also don't think I was debating with anyone here that is a card carrying member of the Tea Party anyways.

I will bounce, don't want to push my luck.
BigPapaVol said:
Clearly you have an idea. Are you really as dumb as you pretend to be on the site?
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It's just fun watching the original intent of the Iraq War constantly change over time. That's all.
 
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I think you're argument is stupid and I think people who carry cards for political parties are less than human.
 
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Muschump said:
Fair enough. To be clear though, I wasn't calling anyone here a racist. Sorry to offend.
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If you can't be bothered to address the points made in this earlier post, even with the trite intellectual disengenuousness you've shown elsewhere in the post, you can't possibly expect to be treated any better than you have been. Give it a go, I very much doubt anybody will be very impressed based on what you've posted so far in this thread but hey...show us what you've got.

I'll start with the war protestor analogy:

The protesting peaked within the first few years of the war. It continued throughout the Bush presidency because of the view that Bush was a war mongering president.

The wars continued under Obama but those angry people became less angry because they perceived Obama to be a peace maker (hell he won a prize). Interestingly, the war activity overall went up but the protests went to zero. Part was general fatigue with protesting and part was anticipation of the new direction.

Under Bush, his real spending boost came later in his term. Many were bothered that he was overspending, particularly on entitlements but it was a relatively small and non-vocal group. His war spending didn't get a big rise because many of the current TP viewed some of the wars as necessary or within the purview of government.

At the end of Bush's term we saw an economy crash. We saw government begin to step in with big spending. The TP was emerging at the time of TARP - initiated by Bush. More people began to believe that government actions were causal effects for the economy. Next, we see Obama come in and use TARP for auto-bailouts. We see the Omnibus spending bill 1 that raises discretionary spending by 12%, we see an ill-formed Stimulus with lots of political payoffs to every Dem wet dream that's been on the shelf, we see the beginning push for Obamacare including singlepayer HC, we see the second Omnibus spending bill that adds another 8% to discretionary funding, we here people aren't paying their fair share, spread the wealth around, Dodd-Frank, rapid growth in government agencies, unprecedented use of Czars, open demonization of business, destruction of contracts with the auto-bailouts, etc. etc. - all this under the control of a president who vows to fundamentally transform America.

The trajectory is absolutely towards a massive shift towards Federal government control. Like the war protests, these actions mobilized people that had been concerned already. Obama absolutely took spending and government involvement to a new level and showed no signs of stopping.

Nah - it's because he's black...
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I don't really mind people like muschump giving their opinion, even if it is ridiculous. I like to hear from the other side - just as long as they aren't purposely being malicious or trolling.
 
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some people like Bill Maher are so absurd that they must be willfully dishonest to really spew that kind of garbage.
 
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