Most Encouraging Things About Pruitt's Recruiting

[Billy Antrim]

When I lived in TN I appreciated the nice roads but I found it very frustrating that the government seemed to prioritize roads over things like education. Different places, different priorities. I now live in a state with worse roads AND worse education but unlike what an earlier poster assumed, most of us don't have the option to move states for tax avoidance reasons.

What do you do for a living in ABQ? :hi:

 

[LoudOrange]

Was waiting for someone to try to justify the CA recruiting.

Said in my best Jim Mora Sr. Beer commercial voice (“playoffs? You wanna talk about playoffs?”)

Clausen? That’s your rebuttal? Clausen is a good ROI for the last 18 years of investment?

Millions of $$$, countless hours, countless missed opportunities closer to home for ONE QB who went 34-10 during 2000-2003 and whose best finish was ONE Eastern Division Title.

TEN players like that MIGHT begin to justify the cost and lost opportunities in surrounding states, but just Clausen?

Forget all the kids we didn’t get, just go back and look at the California kids we did get but didn’t last 4 years, or didn’t contribute. Start with Sheriron Jones (playing for New Mexico.)

This methodology/thinking is one of the reasons we are exactly where we are. 3 Division titles in the last 19 years.

California recruiting has cost us titles?. Lol

 

[HSTVol]

California recruiting has cost us titles?. Lol

My statement was, 18 years of California recruiting has yielded Clausen and little else, and during that same timeframe we have only 3 Division Championships. Terrible ROI on California recruiting. Pretty straight-forward.

Feel free to post a list of California recruits that significantly and positively affected our program. In recent history, I believe you’ll find only a few recruits, and they were all busts, gone in 2 years:

Woody Quinn (2013) - volleyball player turned into a TE. Gone in 1 season. No stats.

Von Pearson (2014) - gone after 2 seasons, after rape investigation (no charges filed.)

Sheriron Jones(2015) - 1 completion for 2 yards while at UT. Went JUCO, now headed to New Mexico.

Although, we could do as you suggest.... keep doing the same thing and expect a different result! I believe that was Albert Einstein’s definition of insanity.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

Yeah, recruiting blue chip recruits out of California and Texas has sure worked out disastrously for Alabama. They've won a paltry 5 out of the last 8 college football national championships. Terrible ROI!

If you're a top program, you recruit top players. No one is saying our staff should be camped out in California. The argument is that if you can get some blue chips in Cali and Texas, you should go after some of them. But just like most college football programs, we're obviously going to concentrate on our home region (TN / GA / VA / NC) the most.

 

[HSTVol]

Yeah, recruiting blue chip recruits out of California and Texas has sure worked out disastrously for Alabama. They've won a paltry 5 out of the last 8 college football national championships. Terrible ROI!

If you're a top program, you recruit top players. No one is saying our staff should be camped out in California. The argument is that if you can get some blue chips in Cali and Texas, you should go after some of them. But just like most college football programs, we're obviously going to concentrate on our home region (TN / GA / VA / NC) the most.

Eventually, your scenario can be true, if your a top tier program.

But RIGHT NOW, and for the next few years, “If you’re a top program” means we aren’t in the same conversation. RIGHT NOW, a top recruit will move across the country for national powerhouse Alabama. He’s not gonna do that for us! Period. Sorry for being negative, but that’s reality.

Crawl before you walk. Our best bet is focusing in the southeast, VA down to FL, across to Louisiana, maybe a pick or two in Texas, up in Ohio, etc.

I’m a 247 subscriber, so I can and do read the sites for other teams. After the Early Signing period was over, they asked Smart, why he was so successful in recruiting this year. His answer, “Winning. Kids want to see that you can win, and they want to play for a winning program.”

 

[UT-Rex]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiderotsGhost View Post
Yeah, recruiting blue chip recruits out of California and Texas has sure worked out disastrously for Alabama. They've won a paltry 5 out of the last 8 college football national championships. Terrible ROI!

If you're a top program, you recruit top players. No one is saying our staff should be camped out in California. The argument is that if you can get some blue chips in Cali and Texas, you should go after some of them. But just like most college football programs, we're obviously going to concentrate on our home region (TN / GA / VA / NC) the most.

Eventually, your scenario can be true, if your a top tier program.

But RIGHT NOW, and for the next few years, “If you’re a top program” means we aren’t in the same conversation. RIGHT NOW, a top recruit will move across the country for national powerhouse Alabama. He’s not gonna do that for us! Period. Sorry for being negative, but that’s reality.

Crawl before you walk. Our best bet is focusing in the southeast, VA down to FL, across to Louisiana, maybe a pick or two in Texas, up in Ohio, etc.

I’m a 247 subscriber, so I can and do read the sites for other teams. After the Early Signing period was over, they asked Smart, why he was so successful in recruiting this year. His answer, “Winning. Kids want to see that you can win, and they want to play for a winning program.”

Now, contrast that, to the -- literal -- 5 years of image-building under Dave Hart + Bucth Josne:

"“Kids judge you by your car,” Jones told the Knoxville newspaper. “It’s crazy.” Jones said driving the impressive German car is part of building an image at the University of Tennessee. “It’s crazy, but that’s the world we live in, selling (and) trying to create those impressions,” Jones told the Knoxville News Sentinel. “So that’s very important.”

 

[rekinhavoc]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiderotsGhost View Post
Yeah, recruiting blue chip recruits out of California and Texas has sure worked out disastrously for Alabama. They've won a paltry 5 out of the last 8 college football national championships. Terrible ROI!

If you're a top program, you recruit top players. No one is saying our staff should be camped out in California. The argument is that if you can get some blue chips in Cali and Texas, you should go after some of them. But just like most college football programs, we're obviously going to concentrate on our home region (TN / GA / VA / NC) the most.


Now, contrast that, to the -- literal -- 5 years of image-building under Dave Hart + Bucth Josne:

"“Kids judge you by your car,” Jones told the Knoxville newspaper. “It’s crazy.” Jones said driving the impressive German car is part of building an image at the University of Tennessee. “It’s crazy, but that’s the world we live in, selling (and) trying to create those impressions,” Jones told the Knoxville News Sentinel. “So that’s very important.”

Well they drive American made Dodge chargers at Bama
so wrong again Butch.