Most underrated coach in the country?

[Wimberlake]

Chris Petersen is probably the most underrated but Paul Johnson isn't far behind. Paul Johnson is certainly one of the more unique coaches in the country with his triple option. I am wondering when a big time school comes calling. I think Michigan is down playing around with innovative offenses so that's one school that won't go after him. Notre Dame, Florida State and Georgia may all be looking for new coaches. That would be a slap in the face if Johnson went to Georgia.

If not a college team, what about the NFL? Does anyone believe that offense could work? If Fisher is on his way out, I don't think you'll find two better players in the NFL to try the offense with. Maybe Pat White.

I doubt the Titans would come calling but big time football schools in need of a new coach would be dumb to overlook Johnson.

 

[Jaytrain5]

Chris Petersen is probably the most underrated.

Did you mean to type "overrated?"

 

[iuvol2012]

Did you mean to type "overrated?"

Absurd. How is Chris Petersen overrated? Boise State doesn't recruit the same talent level as the powerhouse programs in the country, and yet, he still manages to win.

However, my vote goes to Paul Johnson.

 

[chavisut]

Is Kirk Ferentz seriously on this poll?

 

[Wimberlake]

Is Kirk Ferentz seriously on this poll?

Yeah. He is underrated. It's amazing he wins game at all let alone lots of them. I'm pretty sure Iowa's incoming average of recruits is usually below 3.0 and their classes usually rank lower than 50th. They've competed with Florida, LSU and Texas in bowl games. They compete with Ohio State and Penn State who easily out recruit them as well. I believe not a lot of coaches could do what he does with the talent he has. It's not because he's a bad recruiter either. It's because no one wants to go to Iowa. The whether isn't nice, there isn't anything to do... Iowa would have to sign a top coach from another school for top talent to actually look at them. Obviously no top coach would go there so yes, Kirk Ferentz is underrated because nobody else is doing what he does with the that talent.

 

[KB5252]

Is Kirk Ferentz seriously on this poll?

He has done more with less than a good number of the coaches in this poll.

 

[Wimberlake]

Is Kirk Ferentz seriously on this poll?

And question, why wouldn't Ferentz be on the list? Most fans have nothing good to say about him so he certainly isn't overrated. I think he is better than people give him credit for.

 

[utvolpj]

Obviously no top coach would go there so yes, Kirk Ferentz is underrated because nobody else is doing what he does with the that talent.

struggling to beat terrible teams? Yeah, he's a miracle worker

 

[iuvol2012]

Yeah. He is underrated. It's amazing he wins game at all let alone lots of them. I'm pretty sure Iowa's incoming average of recruits is usually below 3.0 and their classes usually rank lower than 50th. They've competed with Florida, LSU and Texas in bowl games. They compete with Ohio State and Penn State who easily out recruit them as well. I believe not a lot of coaches could do what he does with the talent he has. It's not because he's a bad recruiter either. It's because no one wants to go to Iowa. The whether isn't nice, there isn't anything to do... Iowa would have to sign a top coach from another school for top talent to actually look at them. Obviously no top coach would go there so yes, Kirk Ferentz is underrated because nobody else is doing what he does with the that talent.

Ferentz is drastically overpaid and overrated. Paul Johnson and Chris Petersen have done better than Ferentz with less talented teams.

 

[Jaytrain5]

Absurd. How is Chris Petersen overrated? Boise State doesn't recruit the same talent level as the powerhouse programs in the country, and yet, he still manages to win.

However, my vote goes to Paul Johnson.

Boise St. is more talented than most of the teams on their schedule.

Dan Hawkins was winning 11, 12, and 13 games a year before Peterson took over. He was one of those "underrated" geniuses at one time too.

 

[KB5252]

struggling to beat terrible teams? Yeah, he's a miracle worker

I think Petersen is in no way shape or form underrated. He has been considered for some top jobs out there.

The coach from TCU is probably the most underrated with Johnson close behind. Ferentz is a pretty good coach, he has less talent than Boise IMO. Granted many of those wins were against poor talent but then again around 90% of Boise St wins come against opponents just as bad if not much, much worse.

 

[Wimberlake]

struggling to beat terrible teams? Yeah, he's a miracle worker

Since when did margin of victory matter? I'd rather scrape by every team than blow out Western Kentucky and lose to UCLA. You get paid to win. There is no difference between a 21 pt win and a 1 point win. Both are W's. The fact is, Iowa didn't lose until their starting quarterback got hurt. They were up 10-0 against Northwestern and didn't score again when he got hurt. They lost by 3 at Ohio State the following week. Iowa would probably be undefeated right now if their back up quarterback wasn't a low rated freshman. I'll take scraping by crap teams every day of the week if it means 9-10 wins and a shot at 12-0 with everyone healthy. Would be better than moral victories.

 

[KB5252]

Ferentz is drastically overpaid and overrated. Paul Johnson and Chris Petersen have done better than Ferentz with less talented teams.

Boise has talent on par with anything Ferentz puts on the field.

 

[iuvol2012]

Boise St. is more talented than most of the teams on their schedule.

Dan Hawkins was winning 11, 12, and 13 games a year before Peterson took over. He was one of those "underrated" geniuses at one time too.

They have also beaten a far superior Oklahoma team in terms of talent in a BCS bowl and dominated an Oregon team that had more talent. Wouldn't say Petersen is overrated if he can beat good teams.

 

[utvolpj]

I think Petersen is in no way shape or form underrated. He has been considered for some top jobs out there.

The coach from TCU is probably the most underrated with Johnson close behind. Ferentz is a pretty good coach, he has less talent than Boise IMO. Granted many of those wins were against poor talent but then again around 90% of Boise St wins come against opponents just as bad if not much, much worse.

but if you watch the games TCU and BSU just look better coached. Maybe that's just big 10 football but I think those 2 teams are just better football teams. Either would take Iowa to the woodshed this year (with similar talent)

 

[KB5252]

but if you watch the games TCU and BSU just look better coached. Maybe that's just big 10 football but I think those 2 teams are just better football teams. Either would take Iowa to the woodshed this year (with similar talent)

That is making the assumption that Iowa and Boise have similar talent. I think Boise has better talent on the field, maybe not by much but they look better in talent and execution.

 

[utvolpj]

Since when did margin of victory matter? I'd rather scrape by every team than blow out Western Kentucky and lose to UCLA. You get paid to win. There is no difference between a 21 pt win and a 1 point win. Both are W's. The fact is, Iowa didn't lose until their starting quarterback got hurt. They were up 10-0 against Northwestern and didn't score again when he got hurt. They lost by 3 at Ohio State the following week. Iowa would probably be undefeated right now if their back up quarterback wasn't a low rated freshman. I'll take scraping by crap teams every day of the week if it means 9-10 wins and a shot at 12-0 with everyone healthy. Would be better than moral victories.

there's a huge difference in squeaking by similar opponents and squeaking by multiple 1aa teams.

 

[utvolpj]

That is making the assumption that Iowa and Boise have similar talent. I think Boise has better talent on the field, maybe not by much but they look better in talent and execution.

recruiting is also a measure of a good college coach. I would doubt there is much disparity in Iowa/BSU/TCU star rankings but I bet there is a huge difference in available funds to do it.

 

[iuvol2012]

That is making the assumption that Iowa and Boise have similar talent. I think Boise has better talent on the field, maybe not by much but they look better in talent and execution.

Boise is much more disciplined than Iowa and they execute their schemes a heck of a lot better than Iowa executes its schemes. Petersen does more with Boise than Ferentz does with Iowa and gets paid far less for it.

 

[chavisut]

Kirk Ferentz is severely overrated. For a coach making 3 million a year, he doesn't deliver. Don't give me any "does more with less" crap either. He's coaching at a BCS school, recruiting is part of the job.

 

[droski]

mike riley is far more underrated than any of these guys.

 

[kptvol]

mike riley is far more underrated than any of these guys.

I can get with that. Gary Peterson is still pretty unappreciated, though. Of the options on this poll, I'd think he's the runaway winner.

Ferentz is probably making more than a good portion of that list combined. His AD has badly overrated him. Chris Petersen is absurdly overrated and does not belong on this type of poll. After about 2 years of coaching there were quite a few posters on here wanting him to take over at UT. Paul Johnson has gotten a lot of love for what he did at Navy and what he's doing at GT. I don't think he's underrated.

 

[iuvol2012]

I can get with that. Gary Peterson is still pretty unappreciated, though.

I'd put him in a very close second behind Paul Johnson. But, yes, Gary Patterson is very underappreciated for the job that he has done.

 

[KB5252]

Boise is much more disciplined than Iowa and they execute their schemes a heck of a lot better than Iowa executes its schemes. Petersen does more with Boise than Ferentz does with Iowa and gets paid far less for it.

And Boise has better talent as well. I agree that Petersen gets paid less for what he does and obviously evaluates recruits better. That does not mean he is underrated, it just means he is paid less. If he was at a better school he would be paid more, obviously.

I still don't see how anyone can say Petersen is underrated, he is talked about in the same sentences with many of the big boys. The same cannot be said about Johnson or TCU's head coach and both are just as good if not better.

 

[kptvol]

I'd put him in a very close second behind Paul Johnson. But, yes, Gary Peterson is very underappreciated for the job that he has done.

I hear an awful lot about Paul Johnson. I feel like he's pretty well appreciated. Most people don't even know who the head coach at TCU is.