'24 MS RB Daniel Hill

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Running back Daniel Hill is coming off an Alabama visit, and there is some more optimism around the Tide based on folks we have spoken with, but he has yet to give them the nod. We do believe Alabama is evaluating other backs in the class as this one continues to wage on. Hill has not ruled out the possibility of a return visit to Knoxville in November, but he has been unpredictable with visits, so that is very much up in the air, in our opinion. Tennessee offered his nephew, a 2026 running back earlier this week, which is something that caught his attention. South Carolina quickly followed suit in doing so, but we believe the Gamecocks have fallen off behind Alabama and Tennessee.
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Jerry Mack was in Mississippi on Thursday night to see Daniel Hill. The longer this thing goes without a decision, the more up in the air we believe things are for Hill. Countless trips to Alabama and a desire by some close to him to see him choose the Tide point to Alabama but that hasnā€™t happened yet which has been surprising to some.
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4 star RB Kewan Lacy is visiting Alabama this weekend after decommitting from Nebraska. Could be worth watching depending on how many running backs Alabama takes.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Bama had the #1 class in the country last year with a 94.88 avg player ranking including nine 5*
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Specifically for Running Backs, other than Jahmyr Gibbs. Who, I would not say has near the notoriety of a Trent Richardson, Mark Ingram, Derrick Henry, Eddie Lacy.

Imo, again. Bama's biggest criticism is its own shadow. They created all these expectations based upon their past results.

I think their talent isnt near what it was during that run. They were the lead dog talent wise, now its GA.
 
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allvolrecruiting said:
Getting a Bama/UGA/OSU/etc offer and moving up in the rankings (excluding ESPN) is correlation, not causation. If youā€™re moving up in the eyes of the top programs in the nation, youā€™re most likely going to move up in the eyes of everyone šŸ˜…
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You're going to have to break that down further for some folks on here who will argue that point with you.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Iā€™m ok with this argument as long as you realize it means Saban is an even better coach if heā€™s doing what heā€™s done with a less talented roster than what the composite rankings say.
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I think Saban was a revolutionary coach and there aren't many of them in all of sports history.

However recruiting is getting much more competitive. Saban isn't getting as large of a % of the best guys as he used to. Still getting talent so don't overreact to that comment. But him seeming to prioritize a recruit still sways recruiting sites as much as it ever did... and it may not mean quite as much if he's not actually getting interest back from the guys he would otherwise want the most.

Serious question. If Saban offers Sampson... does he stay a 3*? The kid checked ALL of the boxes. Great speed. Set records. Tough runner. Sufficient frame to carry good muscle. The box he didn't check was getting serious interest from a particular, small group of coaches. If a player in the south sets HS records and DOES NOT get serious interest from Saban and Smart... there must be something wrong with him.
 
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sjt18 said:
Serious question. If Saban offers Sampson... does he stay a 3*? The kid checked ALL of the boxes. Great speed. Set records. Tough runner. Sufficient frame to carry good muscle.
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If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, even Nick Saban would have a Merry Christmas.

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sjt18 said:
I think Saban was a revolutionary coach and there aren't many of them in all of sports history.

However recruiting is getting much more competitive. Saban isn't getting as large of a % of the best guys as he used to. Still getting talent so don't overreact to that comment. But him seeming to prioritize a recruit still sways recruiting sites as much as it ever did... and it may not mean quite as much if he's not actually getting interest back from the guys he would otherwise want the most.

Serious question. If Saban offers Sampson... does he stay a 3*? The kid checked ALL of the boxes. Great speed. Set records. Tough runner. Sufficient frame to carry good muscle. The box he didn't check was getting serious interest from a particular, small group of coaches. If a player in the south sets HS records and DOES NOT get serious interest from Saban and Smart... there must be something wrong with him.
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To be fair Sampson was offered by 5 SEC schools and theyā€™re not exactly killers: UT, Ark, USCe, Vandy, Miss St. Iā€™d be curious who you think even his 2nd best offer was? Ark or USCe or Michigan St or NC St maybe.

He also was a 4* in the On3, On3 composite, and 247 rankings.
 
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MarcoVol said:
To be fair Sampson was offered by 5 SEC schools and theyā€™re not exactly killers: UT, Ark, USCe, Vandy, Miss St. Iā€™d be curious who you think even his 2nd best offer was? Ark or USCe or Michigan St or NC St maybe.

He also was a 4* in the On3, On3 composite, and 247 rankings.
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So the recruiting services ā€œmisevaluatedā€ him because the bigger name schools didnā€™t offer. Thatā€™s kind of the point: they donā€™t really evaluate themselves, they just follow offers.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
So the recruiting services ā€œmisevaluatedā€ him because the bigger name schools didnā€™t offer. Thatā€™s kind of the point: they donā€™t really evaluate themselves, they just follow offers.
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So then what youā€™re saying is every coach at every other top program in the country missed on their eval as well bc they didnā€™t offer him.

Can it not be that he was properly evaluated but has developed? And not every service. The only 2 we ever talk about in here - on3 and 247 - both had him as a 4*.
 
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MarcoVol said:
So then what youā€™re saying is every coach at every other top program in the country missed on their eval as well bc they didnā€™t offer him.

Can it not be that he was properly evaluated but has developed? And not every service. The only 2 we ever talk about in here - on3 and 247 - both had him as a 4*.
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Offers arenā€™t always about evals. Sampson isnā€™t the same fit for Bama or Georgia offenses. Sometimes itā€™s about prioritizing a particular position, scholarship numbers, fit for the system, etc. And yes, to a certain degree, some others, like LSU, misevaluated him, until they came in late.

But you know who did evaluate him well? Tennessee. Which is why folks are ridiculous to get their panties in a wad when our staff offers a kid that the website nerds rank a 3*. Because the website nerds arenā€™t skilled in evaluatingā€¦just in following offers.

Website nerds said Ty Simpson was a 5*. I think we know why. And I think we know heā€™s not close to that good.
 
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Iā€™m not defending the services and donā€™t really care about them. A bit off track from where we started but the point was either Saban is still landing top talent - see 2023 cycle - or Saban is a much better coach than anyone wants to give him credit for bc heā€™s winning with players who arenā€™t as good as their rankings.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Offers arenā€™t always about evals. Sampson isnā€™t the same fit for Bama or Georgia offenses. Sometimes itā€™s about prioritizing a particular position, scholarship numbers, fit for the system, etc. And yes, to a certain degree, some others, like LSU, misevaluated him, until they came in late.

But you know who did evaluate him well? Tennessee. Which is why folks are ridiculous to get their panties in a wad when our staff offers a kid that the website nerds rank a 3*. Because the website nerds arenā€™t skilled in evaluatingā€¦just in following offers.

Website nerds said Ty Simpson was a 5*. I think we know why. And I think we know heā€™s not close to that good.
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This all day long!!!
 
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