'24 MS RB Daniel Hill

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NighthawkVol said:
So the recruiting services “misevaluated” him because the bigger name schools didn’t offer. That’s kind of the point: they don’t really evaluate themselves, they just follow offers.
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It’s pure conjecture that if Bama or UGA would have offered he would have been ranked higher.
 
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MarcoVol said:
To be fair Sampson was offered by 5 SEC schools and they’re not exactly killers: UT, Ark, USCe, Vandy, Miss St. I’d be curious who you think even his 2nd best offer was? Ark or USCe or Michigan St or NC St maybe.

He also was a 4* in the On3, On3 composite, and 247 rankings.
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That's interesting unless they changed it sometime after the fact. I really don't know out of those who his 2nd best offer would have been.

IMO, he's better than any RB LSU or Bama have right now. Both shunned him. That's my point. Other schools are doing a better job of getting talent vs Saban than they were before. The recruiting sites still give him a tip of the hat.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It’s pure conjecture that if Bama or UGA would have offered he would have been ranked higher.
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Not really. It is educated speculation based on a lot of observation. Your cultic belief in the recruiting sites being totally independent and infallible rules for talent not withstanding.
 
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sjt18 said:
Not really. It is educated speculation based on a lot of observation. Your cultic belief in the recruiting sites being totally independent and infallible rules for talent not withstanding.
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Yes really. Your idiotic belief in recruiting is well documented. It’s why you can’t be taken seriously.
 
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sjt18 said:
That's interesting unless they changed it sometime after the fact. I really don't know out of those who his 2nd best offer would have been.

IMO, he's better than any RB LSU or Bama have right now. Both shunned him. That's my point. Other schools are doing a better job of getting talent vs Saban than they were before. The recruiting sites still give him a tip of the hat.
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They often adjust after other schools offer. Which is a dead giveaway that they’re not basing rankings on evaluations.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
One would think common sense would win out here but I guess not.
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Common sense begs the question of why the top overall player in a class would commit to a school across the country to a staff that at the time had yet to prove themselves along with looming ncaa investigations when he could have literally gone to any other school… it is common sense to assume we did drop the bag
 
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matt_mccoy19 said:
Common sense begs the question of why the top overall player in a class would commit to a school across the country to a staff that at the time had yet to prove themselves along with looming ncaa investigations when he could have literally gone to any other school… it is common sense to assume we did drop the bag
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Or....it's safe to assume that the real truth is somewhere in the middle. It's ok to think that the 8million was an overblown figure that people keep repeating as fact, but also that he committed because of relationships and family culture that is the foundation of our program. He wasn't the #1 recruit in the country when he committed, and it was also well known that he was the least experienced of that top group of QBs. This is a silly a$$ argument, and it's gotten old. It has not been denied or confirmed because it's nobody's f***ing business.
 
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matt_mccoy19 said:
Common sense begs the question of why the top overall player in a class would commit to a school across the country to a staff that at the time had yet to prove themselves along with looming ncaa investigations when he could have literally gone to any other school… it is common sense to assume we did drop the bag
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Heupel has proven himself with QBs and offense well before HH last year. Every year since 2016 really.
 
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volbeast33 said:
common sense would say he got a heck of a deal….. He was a 5* top 5 recruit in the country from California that committed to a 7-5 football program that hadn’t been relevant in years.
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If you really listened to AP when he went to California, you would think otherwise. The 8 million was a rumor from a lawyer. Yes Nico got paid. But $8 million? I will have to see proof of that to believe it.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If you really listened to AP when he went to California, you would think otherwise. The 8 million was a rumor from a lawyer. Yes Nico got paid. But $8 million? I will have to see proof of that to believe it.
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He got an NIL deal worth "up to" $8 million over the entire time he's at UT. Comes out to around $2 million per year in potential earnings which there were college coaches saying they expected the going rate for a top QB to be around $2 million per year if NIL passed. There were bigger deals out there for a couple other QBs in Nico's class, one being the deal UF's collective made with Rashada that they backed out on.
 
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