'24 MS WR JJ Harrell (Mississippi State commit)

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Harrell is scheduled to take an official visit to Tennessee in June, and other official visits remain on the table.

“Honoring my commitment is one thing, but enjoying the process and everything that I’ve earned is another thing,” Harrell detailed. “The two things in life that we rarely get are time and choices, so we’ve got to be wise about both. It’s all part of the process and I’m going to take as many visits that I can take.”
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“Ole Miss is stepping hard,” the On300 receiver from Mississippi said, adding that Lane Kiffin is leading the charge.
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A lot of kids do this kind of stuff... they just don't usually say it publicly for a lot of good reasons.

I'm not sure "come join me at UT... maybe" is a very good pitch for a peer recruiter.

I know Dabo isn't popular here but he and others have taken some stands over time with kids like this that now work in their favor. Unless he's a really, really special player... I would honestly have to think about cutting him loose.
 
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sjt18 said:
A lot of kids do this kind of stuff... they just don't usually say it publicly for a lot of good reasons.

I'm not sure "come join me at UT... maybe" is a very good pitch for a peer recruiter.

I know Dabo isn't popular here but he and others have taken some stands over time with kids like this that now work in their favor. Unless he's a really, really special player... I would honestly have to think about cutting him loose.
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Some of y’all are acting like he slapped your momma.

Cut him loose for saying his recruitment is open? I hope our staff isn’t that insecure.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Some of y’all are acting like he slapped your momma.

Cut him loose for saying his recruitment is open? I hope our staff isn’t that insecure.
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He’s right. The coaches will start looking for his replacement just in case. Just how this works. Doesn’t mean they will stop recruiting him just in case. Same way recruits start looking for somewhere else if they’re not “feeling the love” as they say.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
He’s right. The coaches will start looking for his replacement just in case. Just how this works. Doesn’t mean they will stop recruiting him just in case. Same way recruits start looking for somewhere else if they’re not “feeling the love” as they say.
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To me that’s just recruiting and not “cutting him loose” which I took as encouraging him to go elsewhere
 
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MarcoVol said:
Some of y’all are acting like he slapped your momma.

Cut him loose for saying his recruitment is open? I hope our staff isn’t that insecure.
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None of that is true in my case. I've thought about this and read what he said. It isn't about "slapping mommas" or emotional reactions or insecurity. It is about whether what he did is good for UT and recruiting over time.

Like I said, lots of recruits continue to listen to other programs after committing. I don't remember a guy going on social media unprovoked to tell the world his recruitment is open... and his responses since have just made it look worse. Just saying I would consider using this to set some limits.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
He’s right. The coaches will start looking for his replacement just in case. Just how this works. Doesn’t mean they will stop recruiting him just in case. Same way recruits start looking for somewhere else if they’re not “feeling the love” as they say.
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Correct. On rare occasions, coaches run out of space and get a commit that they really prize causing them to pull someone else's offer. It happens because coaches continue to "recruit over" players even after taking their commitment. Everyone knows it. Everyone does it. But they don't go out and say, "We're really committed to Joe Widenceiver but we're open to anyone who is better than him and will pull his offer to make space."
 
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MarcoVol said:
To me that’s just recruiting and not “cutting him loose” which I took as encouraging him to go elsewhere
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You took it correctly. I would consider pulling his offer to set a boundary. Lots of things go into it. Maybe he's just an incredibly special player who you can't afford to do that with... but WRs aren't the most difficult recruits to replace most of the time.

Heupel gives commits a lot more leeway than most coaches. I think there are really good reasons to do that including wanting them to be sure of their choice when they sign. IMO, this kid just took it a step too far.
 
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sjt18 said:
You took it correctly. I would consider pulling his offer to set a boundary. Lots of things go into it. Maybe he's just an incredibly special player who you can't afford to do that with... but WRs aren't the most difficult recruits to replace most of the time.

Heupel gives commits a lot more leeway than most coaches. I think there are really good reasons to do that including wanting them to be sure of their choice when they sign. IMO, this kid just took it a step too far.
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There are 7 months until he can sign. What he says right now doesn’t mean anything. Goes for all recruits.
 
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sjt18 said:
To me that's like a girl who tells a guy, "I'm still committed to you and plan to marry you but plan to go out and have as much fun as I can with other guys".

If he/she wants to do it then that's their choice. But standing by a "commitment" when it isn't reciprocated isn't very wise.
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I took your original explanation of your stance as good faith but you’ve gone off the deep end.
 
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MarcoVol said:
There are 7 months until he can sign. What he says right now doesn’t mean anything. Goes for all recruits.
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The vast majority of recruits who commit and especially around this time going forward will stick with it. It means quite a bit to most when they say they're committed. It is even rarer for a program to pull a scholarship offer to make space for someone else. That "commitment" says, you have a spot and you've promised to take it.

Maybe this strategy. Recruit the position as hard as you can and when you have someone else ready to commit of similar talent... give him Harrell's spot?
 
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MarcoVol said:
I took your original explanation of your stance as good faith but you’ve gone off the deep end.
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There would be absolutely nothing wrong with the kid just saying, "I'm not committed to UT any more and will consider them along with other schools going forward". But he wants UT to hold a spot for him while he looks for an "upgrade". It is foolish to accept that.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Imo, it’s pointless to commit to a school if you’re unsure of your decision.
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Except that it obligates the school to hold a place for you to a great extent. Pulling offers from committed recruits is a really bad look with costs to future recruiting.

That's why I think what this kid did and is doing need to be addressed.
 
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