Mueller Report Imminent

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#3,876
IPleadInsanity said:
85% right wing? You really believe that? Its no more true than 85% of Dems are left wing. Many people caught in the crossfire and we will be the ones to eventually straighten this crap out.
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This Bell Curve is accurate to a general percentage of fringes.
 
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roosterjbh said:
Does the report not say he gave the orders to obstruct and he aids said no?

He obstructed justice when he gave those orders. He should be held culpable, looks like he will not be.
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The case would be so flimsy. There has to be concrete proof of obstruction, or an actual attempt.
 
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roosterjbh said:
So, Trump shouldn’t be held accountable because his aides refused his orders to obstruct?
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Held accountable for what? He knew (as the report says) that there was zero collusion between him/his campaign and the Russians and that the entire premise of the investigation was BS so he wanted it done and over. I'd say he was pissed and was lashing out, making some poor decisions. His aids kept him from acting on those poor decisions so no attempt to obstruct justice.
 
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37L1 said:
BS. Orders mean nothing unless they are obeyed. When they weren't, what did he do? Did he continue to insist that they be carried out? Did he relieve those who disobeyed and find someone that would carry them out? No? So that's all you got. Ultimately, they cooperated fully.
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Of course orders by the president mean something. Flip the parties and y’all are losing your ****ing minds.
 
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luthervol said:
I said I consider you to be unthinking, not that you are unthinking....take tree nanoseconds and think about how funny that is.
I'm certainly not willfully ignorant, I only conceded the fact that you consider me to be willfully ignorant. THINK about it. Subtleties escape the unthinking.
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Oh, luther I get it. Reread my response. The bottom line is about the depth to which I hold your opinion (what you think) in low regard. I was aware of your language. WTH is "tree nanoseconds"?

You are indeed "willfully ignorant".
 
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#3,884
roosterjbh said:
Giving an order isn’t an action?
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The entire thing was a scam from the start. He gave out the order not to cover up a crime, but because he knew no crime was ever committed to begin with.

Trump keeps asking for loyalty. He needs to thank his advisers and give em a hefty raise cause they saved his ass.
 
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Burger said:
The execution of the ACA is what ultimately will make it a failure. You cannot completely handcuff the private sector and not skyrocket costs. The biggest sales problem is very simple... How will it get paid for while not crashing the economy?
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How do we currently pay $10,300 per capita in health care costs? If that per capita cost is reduced to even $8000, which would still be by far the highest in the world, that would be a savings of $720,000,000,000.
That's 720 billion.
 
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luthervol said:
Sure he did, and he would have obstructed to a greater extent if not for a few more reasonable people around him.
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You could say that about any president including Obama. If you don't actually obstruct there can be no obstruction. Lay on top of that the fact that there was no crime to obstruct or probable cause to investigate, Dems lose and Trump wins. The only thing in question now is how Dems will react to losing.
 
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#3,890
37L1 said:
Oh, luther I get it. Reread my response. The bottom line is about the depth to which I hold your opinion (what you think) in low regard. I was aware of your language. WTH is "tree nanoseconds"?

You are indeed "willfully ignorant".
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lol....If you THINK about it, you may recognize it as a typo.
Again, I'm willing to concede that you hold my opinion in almost as low regard as I do yours.
 
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roosterjbh said:
Of course orders by the president mean something. Flip the parties and y’all are losing your ****ing minds.
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Instead you are losing yours. Orders not carried out have no effect on anything. He had the power to make them carry them out. Obviously after getting advice and thinking about it he decided not to do it in the end. That is all that matters. What occurred? Did it impede or comply? They ended up complying, so no obstruction occurred. The rest is just BS that you are trying mighty hard to hang your hat on, except you don't have a hat.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
You could say that about any president including Obama. If you don't actually obstruct there can be no obstruction. Lay on top of that the fact that there was no crime to obstruct or probable cause to investigate, Dems lose and Trump wins. The only thing in question now is how Dems will react to losing.
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Obstruction lies on a continuum. Trump is higher than all but maybe Nixon.
 
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luthervol said:
lol....If you THINK about it, you may recognize it as a typo.
Again, I'm willing to concede that you hold my opinion in almost as low regard as I do yours.
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Can't get any lower than I hold yours. You prove daily, post by post, what a complete troll you are. But you are fun, I'll give you that.
 
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luthervol said:
How do we currently pay $10,300 per capita in health care costs? If that per capita cost is reduced to even $8000, which would still be by far the highest in the world, that would be a savings of $720,000,000,000.
That's 720 billion.
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We can advocate for deregulation all we want. Red tape has skyrocketed costs.
 
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This is why the Muell should be shredded. He should have concluded one way or the other in his report that in his legal opinion Trump obstructed justice or he didn't. If he felt that Trump did obstruct then congress could have taken action if he didn't then all of this could be put to bed and we could move on. But no, he worded his comments on obstruction to keep this alive and going for the sole purpose of continuing to hamper the administration.

He was pissed that he won't be in history as the man that brought down a president.
 
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Mick said:
So, the object is to shame? Make it public Barr, amiright.
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I would tend to think the full report maybe should be read by the House, the Judiciary Committee for certain. However, with the complete lack of ability to keep their mouths shut, I'd be hesitant for them not to blab about it the moment they saw it.

I'd sure as hell be real careful about showing the unredacted report to the House Intelligence since Schiff already has shown the propensity to run his mouth. But that checks and balances thingy gets in the way.
 
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hog88 said:
This is why the Muell should be shredded. He should have concluded one way or the other in his report that in his legal opinion Trump obstructed justice or he didn't. If he felt that Trump did obstruct then congress could have taken action if he didn't then all of this could be put to bed and we could move on. But no, he worded his comments on obstruction to keep this alive and going for the sole purpose of continuing to hamper the administration.

He was pissed that he won't be in history as the man that brought down a president.
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Renato Mariotti on Why Mueller Didn’t Charge Trump With Obstruction of Justice
 
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Mick said:
If you look at the political landscape, about the only thing that might get bipartisan support would be immigration reform but whatever they come up with will one again be torpedoed by Stephen Miller.
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Immigration , infrastructure both could be had if they would work together .
 
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