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RockyTop85 said:
Mostly criminal defense and some domestic. My only federal experience has been navigating issues relating to individuals who are involved in both systems at once.
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OK. I was wondering if you are/were in a prosecutor's office.
37L1 said:
Watergate
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(1) The break-in occurred before the Democratic convention. Not sure a Nixon election was inevitable.

(2) Did he even know about it before it happened?
 
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Velo Vol said:
There's no way to know. I heard a week or so ago that 100+ million Facebook users saw posts generated by Russians.


If they "never" thought he would win it doesn't make sense to spy, either.
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Read the Strzok-Page text messages

Strzok in his own words: "It's like a life insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40."

 
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Velo Vol said:
OK. I was wondering if you are/were in a prosecutor's office.

(1) The break-in occurred before the Democratic convention. Not sure a Nixon election was inevitable.

(2) Did he even know about it before it happened?
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History lesson for today:
(1)
Richard Milhous Nixon (Incumbent) Republican 47,168,710
George Stanley McGovern Democrat 29,173,222
John G. Schmitz American Independent 1,100,868

Nixon was reelected in a landslide, winning every state but Massachusetts (and the District of Columbia).

That looks pretty inevitable to me.


(2)
"What did the President know and when did he know it?"
-Howard Baker

What difference, at this point, does it matter if he knew about "it" before "it" happened?
 
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37L1 said:
History lesson for today:
(1)
Richard Milhous Nixon (Incumbent) Republican 47,168,710
George Stanley McGovern Democrat 29,173,222
John G. Schmitz American Independent 1,100,868

Nixon was reelected in a landslide, winning every state but Massachusetts (and the District of Columbia).

That looks pretty inevitable to me.


(2)
"What did the President know and when did he know it?"
-Howard Baker

What difference, at this point, does it matter if he knew about "it" before "it" happened?
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Chris Matthews last week on MSNBC was begging the Democrats not to nominated another George McGovern. Chris Matthews can see the writing on the wall for the 2020 Presidential Election.
 
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Exclusive — Jerome Corsi Claims Mueller’s Team Tried to Pressure Him Into Pleading Guilty

Author and political commentator Jerome Corsi, who was under investigation by Special Counsel Robert Mueller for potential collusion with Russia, claimed Mueller’s team tried to pressure him to plead guilty, during an interview with SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight.



“I got subpoenaed on August 28. I provided my computers, my laptops, my backup devices, everything, I voluntarily gave to the Special Counsel and to his prosecutors, and from the beginning they treated me like a criminal,” he told host and Breitbart News Deputy Political Editor Amanda House in an exclusive interview on Thursday.

Corsi said prosecutors suspected he had communicated with WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange, whose website published embarrassing emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee. Corsi claimed that prosecutors tried to convince him to admit to being that link, despite his denials, so that they could establish collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

He alleged the Mueller team used aggressive tactics:

They bring you into this unmarked FBI building in southeast Washington. You come in through the garage, you have to go in and give them in this safe room your laptops, all your electronic devices, your computer, everything, and they bring you up to this internal conference room, with no windows, no clock, and it’s me and my attorney David Gray at this point, to sit across from three of the prosecutors on Mueller’s team, and six to nine FBI, and they start grilling you for hour after hour, and if you forget some emails, or if you state something different from something they have from a phone call three years ago which you didn’t remember, all the prosecutors stand up, the FBI, they stomp out of the room, they call your attorney into the next room, they say they’re going to put you in prison for the rest of your life.

He alleged this went on for 40 hours over two months, and ended because he did not have contact with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

Exclusive -- Corsi: Mueller's Team Tried to Pressure Me to Plead Guilty
He claimed they threatened to put him away for the rest of his life.
 
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Tennesseefan2019 said:
Chris Matthews last week on MSNBC was begging the Democrats not to nominated another George McGovern. Chris Matthews can see the writing on the wall for the 2020 Presidential Election.
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He was talking about Bernie... Obviously, Biden is no McGovern. Biden vs Trump would come down to Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and could go either way (but I like Joe's chances).
 
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37L1 said:
History lesson for today:
(1)
Richard Milhous Nixon (Incumbent) Republican 47,168,710
George Stanley McGovern Democrat 29,173,222
John G. Schmitz American Independent 1,100,868

Nixon was reelected in a landslide, winning every state but Massachusetts (and the District of Columbia).

That looks pretty inevitable to me.


(2)
"What did the President know and when did he know it?"
-Howard Baker

What difference, at this point, does it matter if he knew about "it" before "it" happened?
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So does Obama need to be calling the shots or not for this parallel to work?
 
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Velo Vol said:
OK. I was wondering if you are/were in a prosecutor's office.

(1) The break-in occurred before the Democratic convention. Not sure a Nixon election was inevitable.

(2) Did he even know about it before it happened?
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Were any of you guys who bash Nixon actually around and of age to rationally judge anyone when Nixon was president ... how about LBJ and Kennedy?
 
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Velo Vol said:
OK. I was wondering if you are/were in a prosecutor's office.

(1) The break-in occurred before the Democratic convention. Not sure a Nixon election was inevitable.

(2) Did he even know about it before it happened?
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I rate the Watergate bunglers right up there with Cohen. "Well, he didn't actually say to do anything; we just knew what he meant." Nixon's big problem was he was just as adored by the press as Trump, but he took it too seriously and didn't know how to blow them off like Trump.
 
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AM64 said:
Were any of you guys who bash Nixon actually around and of age to rationally judge anyone when Nixon was president ... how about LBJ and Kennedy?
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I think I was in the 6th or 7th grade leading into the 68 election and remember one of my teachers polling the class about who they were for (meaning parents) and almost everyone raised their hand for Nixon. I remember Kennedy getting killed and Johnson on TV escalating the Vietnam war. The 60's was a pretty crappy decade from an adult standpoint, but from a kids perspective it was great compared to today.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Exclusive — Jerome Corsi Claims Mueller’s Team Tried to Pressure Him Into Pleading Guilty

Author and political commentator Jerome Corsi, who was under investigation by Special Counsel Robert Mueller for potential collusion with Russia, claimed Mueller’s team tried to pressure him to plead guilty, during an interview with SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight.



“I got subpoenaed on August 28. I provided my computers, my laptops, my backup devices, everything, I voluntarily gave to the Special Counsel and to his prosecutors, and from the beginning they treated me like a criminal,” he told host and Breitbart News Deputy Political Editor Amanda House in an exclusive interview on Thursday.

Corsi said prosecutors suspected he had communicated with WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange, whose website published embarrassing emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee. Corsi claimed that prosecutors tried to convince him to admit to being that link, despite his denials, so that they could establish collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

He alleged the Mueller team used aggressive tactics:

They bring you into this unmarked FBI building in southeast Washington. You come in through the garage, you have to go in and give them in this safe room your laptops, all your electronic devices, your computer, everything, and they bring you up to this internal conference room, with no windows, no clock, and it’s me and my attorney David Gray at this point, to sit across from three of the prosecutors on Mueller’s team, and six to nine FBI, and they start grilling you for hour after hour, and if you forget some emails, or if you state something different from something they have from a phone call three years ago which you didn’t remember, all the prosecutors stand up, the FBI, they stomp out of the room, they call your attorney into the next room, they say they’re going to put you in prison for the rest of your life.

He alleged this went on for 40 hours over two months, and ended because he did not have contact with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

Exclusive -- Corsi: Mueller's Team Tried to Pressure Me to Plead Guilty
He claimed they threatened to put him away for the rest of his life.
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What a shocker. Prosecution 101. The desperation games the FBI and prosecutors play often make the criminals look like saints ... and that's saying a lot. If it's a crime to lie to an FBI agent, then it should be doubly so for the FBI to lie, lie by omission, entrap by lengthy and offensive interrogation, or falsely lead someone to believe there's something he doesn't know, or otherwise coerce a confession.
 
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Velo Vol said:
The IG report concluded that agent bias did not taint the investigation.
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It just falsely started the investigation ... But then you don't see a lot of things when you intentionally and obliviously avoid looking into the obvious. All you have to do is look at human nature displayed right here on VN. One subset abhors Trump, and the posts almost always portray everything he does as criminal or deceitful. Another larger group generally sees Trump as positive, and some in the middle waffle on Trump but love how he spins up the Dims. If one is as opinionated as Stroker and Page, there's no way the bias didn't shine through ... none. Say what you want about the more important people, but in a bureaucracy more things are made possible by friends in low places than by people in high places.
 
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VolStrom said:
I think I was in the 6th or 7th grade leading into the 68 election and remember one of my teachers polling the class about who they were for (meaning parents) and almost everyone raised their hand for Nixon. I remember Kennedy getting killed and Johnson on TV escalating the Vietnam war. The 60's was a pretty crappy decade from an adult standpoint, but from a kids perspective it was great compared to today.
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I'm always amazed at how so many people who weren't around let the press and Watergate (and likely college professors) completely define Nixon. He wasn't a particularly likable guy, but he inherited a big LBJ mess (particularly Viet Nam), changed policy to what it should have been, and forced the North Vietnamese to negotiate. Congress then cut funding for South Viet Nam causing the collapse after Nixon managed to barely stabilize things. Nixon got us out and a cowardly congress acted completely without honor ... typical of congress.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Exactly. It makes no sense to accuse someone of spying if you can't point to the collection of any specific intelligence from it or cite how any such research was ever deployed from the alleged covert activity. That is typical Trump-style smoke blowing without any substance. Also, f the Obama administration was trying to help Hillary Clinton win the election, wouldn't they have lifted a finger to stop the Russian interference while it was occurring? All indications are they pretty much just remained on the sideline.
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Truth slipped out of your brain and right into your post 👍
 
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VolStrom said:
I think I was in the 6th or 7th grade leading into the 68 election and remember one of my teachers polling the class about who they were for (meaning parents) and almost everyone raised their hand for Nixon. I remember Kennedy getting killed and Johnson on TV escalating the Vietnam war. The 60's was a pretty crappy decade from an adult standpoint, but from a kids perspective it was great compared to today.
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I remember my homeroom teacher in 1976 was heavily pro Jimmy Carter and so was my homeroom teacher in 1980:D
 
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