Mueller Report Imminent

[volfanjustin]

Now Feinstein is trying to perform cpr on a dead man.

Biden?

 

[Jxn Vol]

Uh oh. Barr says he is investigating the Steele dossier and fisa warrants

 

[Stew Cook]

Be interesting if the SDNY agrees

I caught that too.. The implications of that statement might lead Trump to conclude that Barr has a "conflict of interest".

 

[hog88]

I caught that too.. The implications of that statement might lead Trump to conclude that Barr has a "conflict of interest".

No, he's opening the door for the Muell to go on the record with his opinion.

 

[RockyTop85]

I caught that too.. The implications of that statement might lead Trump to conclude that Barr has a "conflict of interest".

The report discussed this pretty concisely. It was never suggested that they couldn't reach a conclusion. They felt it would be unfair to level an outright accusation without assuming the burden of proof at trial.

 

[1972 Grad]

Good grief. Finebaum, Grassley , and Leahy need to go back home. They can barely read their own questions. Too freakin' old. Sorry.

 

[Stew Cook]

No, he's opening the door for the Muell to go on the record with his opinion.

If they will let him testify. They seem to be punting on scheduling a date.

 

[Stew Cook]

The report discussed this pretty concisely. It was never suggested that they couldn't reach a conclusion. They felt it would be unfair to level an outright accusation without assuming the burden of proof at trial.

Might explain the current panic, and Trump's obstruction of congressional subpoenas.

 

[Velo Vol]

For context of what Mueller might have been concerned about, you can read or skim starting here for a few pages:

Just a few?

 

[Velo Vol]

True or False: It's DOJ policy not to indict the sitting president.

 

[0nelilreb]

Only deaf, dumb, and blind Trumpian soldiers could read that letter and think it means nothing.

Mueller is specifically saying that the letter that Barr wrote was misleading the American people because it substituted Barr's political spin and protection of Trump for the actual conclusions by the investigatory team.

 

[hog88]

If they will let him testify. They seem to be punting on scheduling a date.

I could be wrong but I think Barr said the Muell could testify.

 

[tennvols77]

The report discussed this pretty concisely. It was never suggested that they couldn't reach a conclusion. They felt it would be unfair to level an outright accusation without assuming the burden of proof at trial.

Unfair.......no.....They felt, they know, it would be ignorant to throw out an outright accusation with little to no proof of said accusation....

 

[volinbham]

True or False: It's DOJ policy not to indict the sitting president.

If this were the only hold up why wouldn't Mueller make a finding of obstruction but say he could not indict on that finding? What's to stop him from making such a statement?

 

[hog88]

Might explain the current panic, and Trump's obstruction of congressional subpoenas.

LOL

 

[volinbham]

I could be wrong but I think Barr said the Muell could testify.

He did - just more of these fake arguments like Barr isn't going to release the report or Barr won't testify...

 

[lawgator1]

True or False: It's DOJ policy not to indict the sitting president.

See, if i were a member of Congress my question to Mueller would be simple:

"Your report states that under DOJ policy the department cannot indict a SITTING President. Moreover, it would be unfair to do so because he cannot fight back in a court of law to clear the charge. So let me pose this hypothetical. If your report was coming out a month after President Trump left office, but still within the statute of limitations, would you have made a criminal charge or recommended a criminal charge against him for obstruction of justice?"

Pretty simple. Its either a timing issue or its not. From what I have read, I think Mueller would answer "yes" to that question.

 

[Stew Cook]

I could be wrong but I think Barr said the Muell could testify.

He did. DOJ won't commit though. Mueller is still employed with DOJ, otherwise he could do it on his own accord.

 

[hog88]

If this were the only hold up why wouldn't Mueller make a finding of obstruction but say he could not indict on that finding? What's to stop him from making such a statement?

Nothing. He could have easily made his case as to why he thought Trump obstructed justice in his report and let congress decide whether to impeach or not. He didn't do that because this is what he wanted.

 

[volinbham]

Might explain the current panic, and Trump's obstruction of congressional subpoenas.

I believe at one point you speculated the Steele Dossier was 95% accurate. Still hold that view?

 

[Stew Cook]

LOL

My sentiment exactly.

 

[Stew Cook]

I believe at one point you speculated the Steele Dossier was 95% accurate. Still hold that view?

95.. 97%. Somewhere in that revised margin of error.

 

[volinbham]

See, if i were a member of Congress my question to Mueller would be simple:

"Your report states that under DOJ policy the department cannot indict a SITTING President. Moreover, it would be unfair to do so because he cannot fight back in a court of law to clear the charge. So let me pose this hypothetical. If your report was coming out a month after President Trump left office, but still within the statute of limitations, would you have made a criminal charge or recommended a criminal charge against him for obstruction of justice?"

Pretty simple. Its either a timing issue or its not. From what I have read, I think Mueller would answer "yes" to that question.

Why bother - start the impeachment. After all you claimed that Mueller specifically left this to Congress to decide.

 

[volinbham]

95.. 97%. Somewhere in that revised margin of error.

Umm, have you read the Mueller report? Blows quite a few holes in it.

 

[Stew Cook]

Umm, have you read the Mueller report? Blows quite a few holes in it.

Not so much the part Trump was hyperfocused on.