Mueller Report Imminent

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In the end, people believe what they want to believe and find sources that reinforce those beliefs. Not many are open to changing their minds.





Particularly if they are lawyers and like to argue. :p
 
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0nelilreb said:
Says the guy from the left that has just spent the last 3 years of his life being trolled by his news media and party leadership . Lol
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Kari Kivinen, director of Helsinki French-Finnish School and former secretary-general of the European Schools,.

The bold is the only truth in your post. Didn't read the article I see. The lack of critical thinking and the rise of populism was well outlined. You always make for a great example.
 
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Mick said:
Kari Kivinen, director of Helsinki French-Finnish School and former secretary-general of the European Schools,.

The bold is the only truth in your post. Didn't read the article I see. The lack of critical thinking and the rise of populism was well outlined.
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I read your highlighted post and I read your partisan last line . That’s all I needed to see .
I didn’t comment on the validity of the article , I commented on you living in a glass house and tossing rocks at Trump supporters not being smart .
 
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0nelilreb said:
I read your highlighted post and I read your partisan last line . That’s all I needed to see .
I didn’t comment on the validity of the article , I commented on you living in a glass house and tossing rocks at Trump supporters not being smart .
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I gave a choice "Trump supporters are not that smart or just like to antagonize with fake news "trolling". " You can take any Trump Supporter in this Forum including yourself and make a strong case for either.
 
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Mick said:
I gave a choice "Trump supporters are not that smart or just like to antagonize with fake news "trolling". " You can take any Trump Supporter in this Forum including yourself and make a strong case for either.
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I don’t post fake news . Me trolling , well I can’t help it . The lefts gullibility and willingness to believe anything about Trump and how tyrannical/ evil he is makes it irresistible to me . It’s like poking a turtle because he won’t do anything but pull his head and legs inside his shell .
 
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Mick said:
I gave a choice "Trump supporters are not that smart or just like to antagonize with fake news "trolling". " You can take any Trump Supporter in this Forum including yourself and make a strong case for either.
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Bro...the irony of you making judgments on anyone’s smarts is too much. Thanks for the chuckle.

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0nelilreb said:
It really is something to watch , hate and loathing of a person will allow you to believe anything without question .
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That's why we are lucky that so few people are worthy of hate and loathing, and also why it's so important to not knowingly nominate and elect a person worthy of hate and loathing.
I would like to think that as a country we have learned that lesson, but it appears many still have not.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I don’t post fake news . Me trolling , well I can’t help it . The lefts gullibility and willingness to believe anything about Trump and how tyrannical/ evil he is makes it irresistible to me . It’s like poking a turtle because he won’t do anything but pull his head and legs inside his shell .
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I think it's at least equally amusing watching redhatters contort themselves in their defense of Trump.
 
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luthervol said:
That's why we are lucky that so few people are worthy of hate and loathing, and also why it's so important to not knowingly nominate and elect a person worthy of hate and loathing.
I would like to think that as a country we have learned that lesson, but it appears many still have not.
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When hate ,loathing , and political bias interfere with your ability to do your job, live your life or push you to the point of irrational thought . It’s not the person you are hating that is the problem . We are seeing this play out in at least one of our ICs . Being the eternal skeptic that I am , I don’t believe the FBI was the only one either . I’ll never believe that Clapper and MCCain wasn’t neck deep in this also .
 
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0nelilreb said:
When hate ,loathing , and political bias interfere with your ability to do your job, live your life or push you to the point of irrational thought . It’s not the person you are hating that is the problem . We are seeing this play out in at least one of our ICs . Being the eternal skeptic that I am , I don’t believe the FBI was the only one either . I’ll never believe that Clapper and MCCain wasn’t neck deep in this also .
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Yea, we keep having the same debate a hundred different ways and from a hundred different angles, but it always boils down to the same point.
I say Trump is unique in his level of horrendous despicability and deserving of the predictable and justifiable response.
You say he's not.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I don’t post fake news . Me trolling , well I can’t help it . The lefts gullibility and willingness to believe anything about Trump and how tyrannical/ evil he is makes it irresistible to me . It’s like poking a turtle because he won’t do anything but pull his head and legs inside his shell .
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When called out on your "trolling" that's just me being trolled. Got it.
 
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luthervol said:
Yea, we keep having the same debate a hundred different ways and from a hundred different angles, but it always boils down to the same point.
I say Trump is unique in his level of horrendous despicability and deserving of the predictable and justifiable response.
You say he's not.
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You are trying to excuse people’s actions because you think they are justified based on the person you say Trump is . I’m saying everyone is responsible for their own actions regardless of the type of person he is . Allowing a politician to ruin your life , career and in some cases ( a lot actually ) mental stability is just ridiculous . Think about all the work you have to do making it into the FBI for example . To throw that all away based on your political bias is just nuts .
 
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Mick said:
When called out on your "trolling" that's just me being trolled. Got it.
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You left out the part where I don’t post fake news. I have never denied trolling , I even gave you the reason why . Again it’s fun to poke at turtles .
 
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0nelilreb said:
You left out the part where I don’t post fake news. I have never denied trolling , I even gave you the reason why . Again it’s fun to poke at turtles .
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We know you enjoy looking and acting foolish. You've been called out on it multiple times by multiple people that you so call like to "troll". You repeat every fake news line that comes down the sewer pipe as truths. So if someone called you deplorable, It would be too kind.
 
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0nelilreb said:
You are trying to excuse people’s actions because you think they are justified based on the person you say Trump is . I’m saying everyone is responsible for their own actions regardless of the type of person he is . Allowing a politician to ruin your life , career and in some cases ( a lot actually ) mental stability is just ridiculous . Think about all the work you have to do making it into the FBI for example . To throw that all away based on your political bias is just nuts .
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I think it's ridiculous to try and cling to a career by sacrificing your principles. Think about all the work you have to do to build credibility and be viewed as a principled individual.
Think about how horrible a single person must be to cause so many others to have such reactions.
There are people throughout history deserving of harsher reactions than they actually received.
Trump is deserving of the reactions. I am still amazed the reactions haven't been even greater and more persistent.
History will judge if the reactions were to great, to restrained, or just about right.
 
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luthervol said:
I think it's ridiculous to try and cling to a your career by sacrificing your principles. Think about all the work you have to do to build credibility and be viewed as a principled individual.
Think about how horrible a single person must be to cause so many others to have such reactions.
There are people throughout history deserving of harsher reactions than they actually received.
Trump is deserving of the reactions. I am still amazed the reactions haven't been even greater and more persistent.
History will judge if the reactions were to great, to restrained, or just about right.
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Think about how weak one must be in order to sacrifice his or her income , savings , family security because they allowed themselves to become politically bias to a point of falsifying information in a job that requires / demands you to be honest and neutral in your investigations .
Are you going to hold the Dems in the house and Senate to that same standard when they vote No on impeachment and removal , or we just going to chalk that up to .. duh they have to in order to same their seat ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
When hate ,loathing , and political bias interfere with your ability to do your job, live your life or push you to the point of irrational thought . It’s not the person you are hating that is the problem . We are seeing this play out in at least one of our ICs , being the eternal skeptic that I am I don’t believe the FBI was the only one either . I’ll never believe that Clapper and MCCain wasn’t neck deep in this also .
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Probably safe to replace the word “skeptic” with “conspiracy theorist” here for the sake of accuracy. Assigning motive to an organization of 35,000 people of diverse political viewpoints is a steep burden. If you can’t get to original source material, I’d suggest reading someone who applies a high journalistic standard to curating a broad set of long lead journalism. No reasonable person can come to the conclusion that Trump is not guilty, nor that he was framed when viewing the actual facts.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
Probably safe to replace the word “skeptic” with “conspiracy theorist” here for the sake of accuracy. Assigning motive to an organization of 35,000 people of diverse political viewpoints is a steep burden. If you can’t get to original source material, I’d suggest reading someone who applies a high journalistic standard to curating a broad set of long lead journalism. No reasonable person can come to the conclusion that Trump is not guilty, nor that he was framed when viewing the actual facts.
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Have you heard Comey lately ? Have you read the IGs report ? Did you bother reading what I posted directly from the IGs report ? Did you listen to the IGs testimony in the Senate ? I don’t know where you are getting your info from but it sounds like you need to do more research . Also I’d love to know who owns this alt account and is using it now instead of your normal one . 😉
 
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0nelilreb said:
Have you heard Comey lately ? Have you read the IGs report ? Did you bother reading what I posted directly from the IGs report ? Did you listen to the IGs testimony in the Senate ? I don’t know where you are getting your info from but it sounds like you need to do more research . Also I’d love to know who owns this alt account and is using it now instead of your normal one . 😉
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I’ve read every report related to this case, cover to cover. I have two friends in the DOJ, and one on the federal court of internal review supervising internal discipline. The FISA applications were sloppy. I don’t like that. I know enough about investigative work to know it’s all too common. That said, the investigation was sound. Trump is guilty of the matters being tried, and more. If you want to follow a curatorial journalist who was also an attorney, read Seth Abramson. He has the largest footnoted library of this case of anyone. Read his two books, and then get back to me.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I’ve read every report related to this case, cover to cover. I have two friends in the DOJ, and one on the federal court of internal review supervising internal discipline. The FISA applications were sloppy. I don’t like that. I know enough about investigative work to know it’s all too common. That said, the investigation was sound. Trump is guilty of the matters being tried, and more. If you want to follow a curatorial journalist who was also an attorney, read Seth Abramson. He has the largest footnoted library of this case of anyone. Read his two books, and then get back to me.
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17 “ mistakes” in 9 months from hand picked teams , one of the most high profile cases in the FBI history ? Not buying it . Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like but after this IG report and testimony, I’m not going to be alone . I’m not following any journalist . I’m not reading any books , don’t care about spin . Let’s see what comes out in the wash .
 
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