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[norrislakevol]

I don't think he said people over 70 are expendable. We should be making thr elderly the priority and letting everyone else get back to their lives

Seems like common sense to me.

 

[norrislakevol]

Several factors involved. The biggest being that deaths follow weeks to even a month or more after new cases crop up. However, many of the new cases are younger people who are less likely to die BUT still risk lengthy hospitalization. As more people fill up hospitals, which is happening, the choices for who gets treatment is going to lead to a death surge again. May not be as bad as in March-April but it to pretend the disease has magically stopped killing people is naive.

Just look at Houston who started having a flare up of cases about a month ago. They just had a record day of 175 deaths on Friday.

Pretty sure that if you are under 40 that you have only about a 4 percent chance of needing to be hospitalized. That includes those in that age group with underlying conditions.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

We all know there's a virus and it can kill people with underlying issues but if you can't see your government and MSM has made it political then I don't know how to help you.

Follow the science. We are where we are now because the politicians refuse to follow the science. What you see in the daily case numbers and deaths are underreported because we still do not have a reliable test, are not able to test all those who need testing, and do not yet have the capasity to analyze the test that are taking in a timely manner. Test should be processed within 2 days to help prevent spread. Few are processed within that time line and many are not processed for 10 to 14 days. Those who are in denial about that this virus is serious and deadly are responsible for much of the cases we are seeing today. If all people do not follow the guidelines developed by the scientists, this virus will continue ravage the World's population. I hope that all remain healthy and avoid this virus, but if all don't, all our lives will continue to suffer from this disease, either medically or economically. Be safe; not stupid and sorry.

 

[Remy]

We're a nation of >300 million people. Reportedly and cumulatively back to when numbers were first being recorded to today we have over 3 million people that have or have had the Coronavirus-19. There is zero reliable recording nationally that tells you on any given day how many active cases are in place. Reporting on those no longer infected is nil coming out of some states for example. The nation was sold on the idea we had to shut down so as to avoid a to 2 to 3 million tsunami of deaths due to this virus. Shut down we did. 300 million total people, 3 million totally infected including the bulk of whom have moved past it and no longer carry it, with 140,000 dead, most of whom had other health challenges including one motorcycle hitting a car accident where the motorcycle driver's death was recorded as a covid death. You decide for yourselves whether the numbers are worthy of wide spread panic and hand wringing or a shrug of the shoulders, the Big Tuna says you are who or what your numbers say you are.

 

[Behr]

Omg. What proof does anyone have there’s a virus ? Do all of you listen to msm all day? Think rational

 

[BenGrimm]

Pretty sure that if you are under 40 that you have only about a 4 percent chance of needing to be hospitalized. That includes those in that age group with underlying conditions.

Going by your 4% number (which I’m sure you made up) then 40 people out of 1000 would end up in the hospital. And that’s just the people under 40. COVID patients arent in the hospital for a day or two, they stay for a week or longer. Amd that just people under 40 (by your numbers). Do you think hospitals have endless amounts of beds?

BTW underlying conditions are as common as asthma, hypertension, and obesity.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Meanwhile report comes out today over 300 testing sites are reporting 100% positive results. Can you say massive testing corruption scandal? We hear stories from inside hospitals of patients being tested over and over until they get a positive result. When it comes to this virus, folks, trust no one.

A voice in the wilderness. Good On You Mate.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Going by your 4% number (which I’m sure you made up) then 40 people out of 1000 would end up in the hospital. And that’s just the people under 40. COVID patients arent in the hospital for a day or two, they stay for a week or longer. Amd that just people under 40 (by your numbers). Do you think hospitals have endless amounts of beds?

BTW underlying conditions are as common as asthma, hypertension, and obesity.

Patients wouldn't even need to be hospitalized IF the treatments (Early Intervention) that ARE Working were used across the board. BUT THERE IS NO $$$$$ in that for the Hospitals; and not much for the Doctors; and the Vaccine Agenda would be NULL.

 

[BenGrimm]

Patients wouldn't even need to be hospitalized IF the treatments (Early Intervention) that ARE Working were used across the board. BUT THERE IS NO $$$$$ in that for the Hospitals; and not much for the Doctors; and the Vaccine Agenda would be NULL.

Yes... hospitals that stopped elective surgeries for months and furloughed staff to save money are just waiting on that COVID hospitalization windfall

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

We all know there's a virus and it can kill people with underlying issues but if you can't see your government and MSM has made it political then I don't know how to help you.

I don't need your help. Maybe you should talk to people on the ground at hospitals to see how the numbers are climbing and that some hospitals are getting close to being overwhelmed...some, not all. You can blame the political part on the government and media all you want, but the biggest problem is all the people who are buying into the political bs instead of just listening to the medical experts and taking common sense precautions. We do have the ability to decide who we listen to and trust. When it's a medical issue...I chose to listen to a doctor instead of a politician or news opinion show host.

 

[norrislakevol]

Going by your 4% number (which I’m sure you made up) then 40 people out of 1000 would end up in the hospital. And that’s just the people under 40. COVID patients arent in the hospital for a day or two, they stay for a week or longer. Amd that just people under 40 (by your numbers). Do you think hospitals have endless amounts of beds?

BTW underlying conditions are as common as asthma, hypertension, and obesity.

The 4 percent number came from the CDC.

The underlying conditions generally need to be multiple such as obesity plus diabetes, for example.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

So something odd I heard the other day on NPR, just a quick blurb and I had to go look it up. It seems in China that asthma sufferers make up only 1-2% of the positive tested cases. Which flies against everything I have heard from MSM, CDC, and Gov. about asthma sufferers being high risk for it. I couldn't find the actual article they quoted on NPR, but there are a lot of contradicting articles if you search for "China+covid+asthma"

I did find this study from the University of Wisconsin...

Respiratory allergies and allergic asthma may have protective mechanism in COVID-19

There is so much disinformation out there right now that I don't know what or who to believe.

I also read an article that showed people that have type O- blood have a 35-40% less chance of contracting it as well.

 

[Delmar]

Yes... hospitals that stopped elective surgeries for months and furloughed staff to save money are just waiting on that COVID hospitalization windfall

Yep, they’re going to postpone those $100,000 joint replacement surgeries that they do several times a day just for that big Corona windfall from a bunch of uninsured patients. That makes a ton of sense.

 

[dobre_shunka]

So something odd I heard the other day on NPR, just a quick blurb and I had to go look it up. It seems in China that asthma sufferers make up only 1-2% of the positive tested cases. Which flies against everything I have heard from MSM, CDC, and Gov. about asthma sufferers being high risk for it. I couldn't find the actual article they quoted on NPR, but there are a lot of contradicting articles if you search for "China+covid+asthma"

I did find this study from the University of Wisconsin...

Respiratory allergies and allergic asthma may have protective mechanism in COVID-19

There is so much disinformation out there right now that I don't know what or who to believe.

I also read an article that showed people that have type O- blood have a 35-40% less chance of contracting it as well.

Well, any information reported from either China or the National People's Radio is highly suspect.

 

[BenGrimm]

So something odd I heard the other day on NPR, just a quick blurb and I had to go look it up. It seems in China that asthma sufferers make up only 1-2% of the positive tested cases. Which flies against everything I have heard from MSM, CDC, and Gov. about asthma sufferers being high risk for it. I couldn't find the actual article they quoted on NPR, but there are a lot of contradicting articles if you search for "China+covid+asthma"

I did find this study from the University of Wisconsin...

Respiratory allergies and allergic asthma may have protective mechanism in COVID-19

There is so much disinformation out there right now that I don't know what or who to believe.

I also read an article that showed people that have type O- blood have a 35-40% less chance of contracting it as well.

All of this is just early observations. Nothing is set in stone because this virus seems to react differently in so many people.

Things like Type O blood being more resilient wont be known with any level of certainty for a few years.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Yes... hospitals that stopped elective surgeries for months and furloughed staff to save money are just waiting on that COVID hospitalization windfall

$39,000 to hook them up to a Ventilator ; allow no visitors, and watch them expire? That happened a Bunch. And you are right; "Furloughed Staff". But they told us they were covered up. Which IS it?

 

[JohnWardForever]

So something odd I heard the other day on NPR, just a quick blurb and I had to go look it up. It seems in China that asthma sufferers make up only 1-2% of the positive tested cases. Which flies against everything I have heard from MSM, CDC, and Gov. about asthma sufferers being high risk for it. I couldn't find the actual article they quoted on NPR, but there are a lot of contradicting articles if you search for "China+covid+asthma"

I did find this study from the University of Wisconsin...

Respiratory allergies and allergic asthma may have protective mechanism in COVID-19

There is so much disinformation out there right now that I don't know what or who to believe.

I also read an article that showed people that have type O- blood have a 35-40% less chance of contracting it as well.

That's Easy. The Asthma Meds they are using (Inhaler steroids) PREVENT COVID. Search Dr Richard Bartlett. youtube

 

[BenGrimm]

$39,000 to hook them up to a Ventilator ; allow no visitors, and watch them expire? That happened a Bunch. And you are right; "Furloughed Staff". But they told us they were covered up. Which IS it?

There is no blanket payout for COVID patients. Even if there was, it still wouldn’t make up for the loss of elective surgery revenue.

Please take your conspiracy theories back to the politics forum where they belong.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I think that

So something odd I heard the other day on NPR, just a quick blurb and I had to go look it up. It seems in China that asthma sufferers make up only 1-2% of the positive tested cases. Which flies against everything I have heard from MSM, CDC, and Gov. about asthma sufferers being high risk for it. I couldn't find the actual article they quoted on NPR, but there are a lot of contradicting articles if you search for "China+covid+asthma"

I did find this study from the University of Wisconsin...

Respiratory allergies and allergic asthma may have protective mechanism in COVID-19

There is so much disinformation out there right now that I don't know what or who to believe.

I also read an article that showed people that have type O- blood have a 35-40% less chance of contracting it as well.

I think those with asthma are at high risk of serious outcomes if they become infected; not at high risk of becoming infected.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

So something odd I heard the other day on NPR, just a quick blurb and I had to go look it up. It seems in China that asthma sufferers make up only 1-2% of the positive tested cases. Which flies against everything I have heard from MSM, CDC, and Gov. about asthma sufferers being high risk for it. I couldn't find the actual article they quoted on NPR, but there are a lot of contradicting articles if you search for "China+covid+asthma"

High risk doesn't mean they are more likely to contract the virus. It means they are much more likely to suffer severe complications IF they contract the virus.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

$39,000 to hook them up to a Ventilator ; allow no visitors, and watch them expire? That happened a Bunch. And you are right; "Furloughed Staff". But they told us they were covered up. Which IS it?

This actually isn't happening a bunch, and I've been able to see the numbers for one decent sized hospital. During the shutdown, the losses from shutting down elective procedures totaled $2.5 million. They had about 10 people that got sick enough to need a ventilator. In your scenario, they would've got $390,000 for those patients. When you're losing over $2 million...you're going to have to make some tough decisions. They decided to furlough employees so they could continue to provide health insurance to them and the employees could get unemployment...which was bumped up by the government. I fail to see what was done wrong...then again, I've been fortunate enough to get the facts.

 

[ManboyVol]

Even with that, you are implying that doctors are putting patients on a vent just for monetary gain as opposed to necessity of the patient’s condition. Do you really think this is a rampant problem that would make a ding in the overall COVID statistics?

Yep

 

[sechamp2012]

We're a nation of >300 million people. Reportedly and cumulatively back to when numbers were first being recorded to today we have over 3 million people that have or have had the Coronavirus-19. There is zero reliable recording nationally that tells you on any given day how many active cases are in place. Reporting on those no longer infected is nil coming out of some states for example. The nation was sold on the idea we had to shut down so as to avoid a to 2 to 3 million tsunami of deaths due to this virus. Shut down we did. 300 million total people, 3 million totally infected including the bulk of whom have moved past it and no longer carry it, with 140,000 dead, most of whom had other health challenges including one motorcycle hitting a car accident where the motorcycle driver's death was recorded as a covid death. You decide for yourselves whether the numbers are worthy of wide spread panic and hand wringing or a shrug of the shoulders, the Big Tuna says you are who or what your numbers say you are.

I agree with all you said and the motorcycle death is a blatant WITH Covid. The key word everybody reads over is WITH . Read where a little over 90% of deaths are with underlying conditions. Also the average age of death for all deaths in USA is 78.4 , the average age of death is 78 for Covid 19. My oldest brother had Colon Cancer for 3 years fought a good fight, was told he had 6 months in November before the virus was a thing. He got the Virus in late Feb. and died in mid March 1.5 month before the Dr. predicted. @ 71 yo.
I seen a stat for the 1st 6 months of 2018,2019 and 2020 total deaths for all are basically the same. The article went on to say they will recount later this year and expect some deaths to be added to 2020.

 

[Cmacsmokey]

Toledo coach tests positive

 

[Delmar]

NFL just announced that if games are played, masks will be required for fans in attendance. Expect the same then for college football.